Not touching the game yet. 2 hours to go...Originally Posted by Dan Druff
Not touching the game yet. 2 hours to go...
Please, for all that is holy, either don't touch it or take the other side.Not touching the game yet. 2 hours to go...
Maybe I will wait and take a halftime bet on the Suns that allows us both to lose simultaneously.Please, for all that is holy, either don't touch it or take the other side.
Take the Celts. It appears you have the same effect on a team as being on the road - call it 3 points. Celts can withstand that against the Lakers. They suck.Maybe I will wait and take a halftime bet on the Suns that allows us both to lose simultaneously.
Cant take Celts. Already took Lakers.
2-1 in NBA so far.
Probably 1-2 in MACtion.
-Druff. You are safe. Stayed away from Heat game.
Watching Laker game. Very sloppy. They are missing a lot of easy shots. They are down 6 but could be winning. They are playing better than Celts but can't buy a bucket.
Refs giving the Celtics some very suspicious calls. Very fishy stuff going on here.
Irving just chillin on bench. Lakers playing Celts bench.
But sloppy, yes
Refs... it's basketball- questionable calls are standard
Lakers 29 fouls called against
Celtics 18 fouls called against
-That pretty much sums up the game. Pretty even sloppy game refs giving to the home team with uneven foul calling.
Lakers probably 0-20 on uncontested 3's this game.
Celts -6.5 - Verm 3 = -9.5
Celts win by 11
Lakers hustle but a warm mess.
Irving only adult on the floor and it showed
Celts should be undefeated the announcers said. That's fair.
Who needs Horford? Line correction was wrong. -10.5 was correct initial line
Brad is a God, but the Kyrie hype is pure fiction. He's played below career averages in just about every category. Hell, in many advanced stats he's performing below his rookie season. Every day I hear the hype machine trying to make him into some world class facilitator when he's averaging less assists than when he played with Lebron. Celtics success is more about Stevens and the really impressive emergence of Tatum and Brown than Kyrie. He's been a slightly worse offensive player with better defense because of better scheme. This Celtics mirage and Kyrie hype is going to be laughable looking back come March.
Are you east coast or west coast BCR? Shocked to see that post from you. Love any BCR post.
I am not a long term investor.
Today they are better than nearly all the lol NBA. The bench is deep, trusted and well used.
The Horford concussion IS a problem next few days. Against the Lakers it was a non-issue.
Celts are not close to a Finals Team. That is a select preordained group.
You mentioned Tatum. Kid is 19. Come March 1st he will still be 19. He is unprepared for the grind. Just one example. They will be gassed and revert to something less by March... but maybe not
Brad Stevens IS god. Especially for what he has done in prior years.
Here is a thought important to remember when spewing on NBA. We know it but we forget.
The regular season means less than any other sport. It's not close. Players nap it out in an obvious way. Poster boy LeBron.
The value is coaches like Stevens. Never gonna allow the nap and he has a bench to follow through with remedial action.
Miami made up for their bedshit against the Warriors.
Up to 23-9 on the season.
Agree with most of this. But even if you go past Brown and Tatum (Horford has been unreal too), the guys down the bench have been outstanding ( Theis/Smart/Rozier/Odule/Morris/Baynes). All of these dudes are playing hard and contributing. Stevens is a pure god.
Brad is a God, but the Kyrie hype is pure fiction. He's played below career averages in just about every category. Hell, in many advanced stats he's performing below his rookie season. Every day I hear the hype machine trying to make him into some world class facilitator when he's averaging less assists than when he played with Lebron. Celtics success is more about Stevens and the really impressive emergence of Tatum and Brown than Kyrie. He's been a slightly worse offensive player with better defense because of better scheme. This Celtics mirage and Kyrie hype is going to be laughable looking back come March.
But I will say this about Kyrie, he is worth the price of admission and I have no fucking clue how he can slow down when he blows by bigger guys and time it perfectly where they are on their way down and he finishes those awkward drives and layups.
And if the Celtics are healthy the Cavs will get pounded this year come playoff time IMO. Not sure that defense out there is fixable. 90 % of the cavs team couldn't stop guys in a YMCA rec league.
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I committed the cardinal sin in college FB and took 2 road favorites and went 0-2, as I deserved to do.
Also went 1-2 in NBA. What can you do. I guess I can take solace in the fact I stayed away from Druff's bets so he could get back on track.
what kinda mirage you think the Celtics are? I'm a Cs fan, but don't for a minute think theyre a 60 win team...also the reality of the playoffs will hit...while I think china is sorta right, the cavs are "vulnerable", but that only goes so far as LeBron...if he decides to start giving a shit the Celtics have no shot...playoffs is all about superstars and the Celtics are 1, maaaaaybe 2 short...
Brad is a God, but the Kyrie hype is pure fiction. He's played below career averages in just about every category. Hell, in many advanced stats he's performing below his rookie season. Every day I hear the hype machine trying to make him into some world class facilitator when he's averaging less assists than when he played with Lebron. Celtics success is more about Stevens and the really impressive emergence of Tatum and Brown than Kyrie. He's been a slightly worse offensive player with better defense because of better scheme. This Celtics mirage and Kyrie hype is going to be laughable looking back come March.
you are right about tatum/brown...that's what I see this year as...giving them primetime minutes/shots so that when Gordon comes back theyre able to be other options...for a 19 year old, tatum looks damn good...wanted to puke in my mouth when they passed on fultz, but he has absolutely nailed that pick (I know, LOL sample size)...
as for kyrie...I posted that earlier...his assist numbers and all that shit might be down, but the fact that stevens has him playing passable D is incredible...think its more to do with the system than with kyrie (I mean how can Bradley's numbers go from being elite to basically shit this year), but the fact the numbers bear this out shocked the hell outta me...
stevens is also kinda a shocker...you got a guy who looks like fucking opie, comes in the league with no professional experience and gets guys to buy in to his defensive scheme and give effort...he's not pop/kerr/phil to earn that respect right off the bat, but he got guys to buy in...granted kyrie is the first A level superstar he has coached, so it might not work with the superstar talent; but have a feeling it will...
they are fun to watch because it truly seems like they give a shit, which is something you don't see a lot in the NBA...
NE Ohio life-long Cavs fan. I thought my vitriol would give that away. Kyrie has pretty much frustrated me for like 6 years now outside of a few spectacular playoff performances. He's one of those guys who entertains you with his handle and finishing, but he doesn't show up half the time and he's basically been the same player his entire career. I've heard the new and improved Kyrie shit a hundred times already, but the numbers remain the same. He has another shit 7/21 game with 5 assists and 3 to's and ESPN writes glowing shit about him.
Stevens has an amazing ability to get his team to care about the regular season, but they'll get their head caved in come playoff time as they have the past few years. They have a bunch of guys who'd be fantastic third options on a real contender. Hell, even Love kills Horfraud every playoff and Love rarely kills anyone anymore. They are just the quintessential regular season stalwart who is drawing dead to make the finals. Brown/Tatum look for real though, but young guys wither come playoff time. The Celtics have a bright future, and they're longer and more athletic, but they have no more finals equity this year than last year unless Lebron gets hurt. So much of the good basketball podcast world revolving around Simmons and guys he gave a job to doesn't lessen my hatred of all things Celtics. I like the pods, but they're shameless when they throw the Celtics into every conversation when they don't have a top 10 player in the league on their roster.
Everyone is drawing dead to beat GS barring 2 torn ACLs amongst their top 3.
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