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    I dont get these odds for the fight. The only way GSP loses is by decision.

    LOL @ Bisping submitting him or KO'ing him. There's a better chance of me having a threesome with Verlander and Upton

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    Quote Originally Posted by OSA View Post
    I dont get these odds for the fight. The only way GSP loses is by decision.

    LOL @ Bisping submitting him or KO'ing him. There's a better chance of me having a threesome with Verlander and Upton
    I think there is no chance that Bisping submits him but a KO or TKO seems possible, doesn't it? Bisping has shown some real power in his last few outings and as great as gsp is he doesn't like to be hit. He tapped to strikes vs Matt Serra and I thought Hendricks won their fight and took it to him pretty good on the feet in GSP's last fight.

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    ps, again, that hendricks fight was _four years ago_ and he looked like absolute shit in it.

    an average 5th round bisping absolutely crushes the 5th round gsp we saw vs hendricks. gsp is the physically stronger, faster, more talented fighter. but if he withers in round 2, which is completely plausible, bisping is going to find himself presented with a lot of exploitable openings, including opportunities for chokes and tkos from back mount etc.
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    You might want to rewatch the Hendricks vs GSP fight. The fifth round was GSP's best of that fight and he finished strong and was all over Hendricks. That's why I don't understand the weight gain, GSP always had awesome cardio and was always the fresher fighter late in fights. Bisping is a cardio machine, why would he want to lose cardio? GSP is no dummy and I'm assuming over this four years he's played with his weight a bit and believes his cardio will be fine with the extra muscle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by peter mcneil View Post
    You might want to rewatch the Hendricks vs GSP fight. The fifth round was GSP's best of that fight and he finished strong and was all over Hendricks. That's why I don't understand the weight gain, GSP always had awesome cardio and was always the fresher fighter late in fights. Bisping is a cardio machine, why would he want to lose cardio? GSP is no dummy and I'm assuming over this four years he's played with his weight a bit and believes his cardio will be fine with the extra muscle.

    could be because its going to help him get bisping to the ground and keep him there. he might feel, perhaps correctly, that he can afford to give up the last 2 rounds on his back because bispings pitter patter isnt going to end the fight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
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    You might want to rewatch the Hendricks vs GSP fight. The fifth round was GSP's best of that fight and he finished strong and was all over Hendricks. That's why I don't understand the weight gain, GSP always had awesome cardio and was always the fresher fighter late in fights. Bisping is a cardio machine, why would he want to lose cardio? GSP is no dummy and I'm assuming over this four years he's played with his weight a bit and believes his cardio will be fine with the extra muscle.

    could be because its going to help him get bisping to the ground and keep him there. he might feel, perhaps correctly, that he can afford to give up the last 2 rounds on his back because bispings pitter patter isnt going to end the fight.
    I'm not sure Bisping has the wrestling to put GSP on his back but I think you're right, GSP expects to easily out wrestle Bisping early on and at a bare minimum hang onto the decision if he gives up a late round or two. It's a super interesting fight. I would also love to see GSP win and hear more whining from Rockhold when GSP vacates the title.

    How bad does the UFC want GSP to win this fight. If McGregor beats Ferguson and GSP beats Bisping I expect a GSP vs McGregor blockbuster next year.

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    Bro, GSP took time off, rested, chilled with his alien niggas and now is gonna put in work.

    I always had a feeling his break was really due to the trauma of fighting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by peter mcneil View Post

    How bad does the UFC want GSP to win this fight. If McGregor beats Ferguson and GSP beats Bisping I expect a GSP vs McGregor blockbuster next year.

    funny, i have a very different perspective on it. i think this fights only purpose is to validate bisping's belt. i dont think gsp will ever face conor under any circumstances and frankly im not sure conor is ever going to fight again, pending a possible showdown with ferg.. that co-promotion shit isnt going to work out and by the time the lawyers are done billing for those negotiations, conor will likely be too long in the tooth.
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    Dillashaw fighting today. Mmmmmm....too bad he gonna lose.


    Watched weigh-ins just for him


    Edit, wtf is that disgusting tattoo. Fucking heterosexual males. Smh.
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    Yea im gonna let the Bisping action ride, if GSP wins it is what it is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by peter mcneil View Post

    How bad does the UFC want GSP to win this fight. If McGregor beats Ferguson and GSP beats Bisping I expect a GSP vs McGregor blockbuster next year.

    funny, i have a very different perspective on it. i think this fights only purpose is to validate bisping's belt. i dont think gsp will ever face conor under any circumstances and frankly im not sure conor is ever going to fight again, pending a possible showdown with ferg.. that co-promotion shit isnt going to work out and by the time the lawyers are done billing for those negotiations, conor will likely be too long in the tooth.
    I think GSP vs McGregor is the biggest pay day in MMA. The Bisping fight was hand picked by GSP, the UFC was on board. Apparently GSP really got the best of Bisping when they trained together and he felt it was his most winnable high profile fight. GSP has always been one of the UFC's top draws, the UFC would like to see him continue after this fight I'm sure.

    I also think the UFC already looked to put the McGregor vs GSP fight together. In the first McGregor vs Diaz fight GSP flew out and sat front row, in a suit. Had McGregor won that fight the rumour was GSP would enter the ring to call McGregor out for the huge ppv. Diaz obviously fucked that all up but I still think the UFC is hoping to make that fight happen. You're right, a lot of shit has to workout for that fight to become a reality.

    I'd also be willing to take a small bet that McGregor fights in the next 6 months in the UFC.

    If GSP wins tonight he calls McGregor out. https://www.google.ca/amp/www.telegr...gend-call/amp/
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    I can't decide whether Rose looks more like young Carl from Shameless or Eleven from Stranger Things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by peter mcneil View Post
    I'd also be willing to take a small bet that McGregor fights in the next 6 months in the UFC.

    If GSP wins tonight he calls McGregor out. https://www.google.ca/amp/www.telegr...gend-call/amp/

    If they offer him Ferg in Ireland, he 100% takes that fight.

    But if GSP calls him out, suddenly we end up drowning in his co-promotion nonsense I'm guessing. "The money aint fookin right" etc. Because, for all the reasons you described, his leverage goes through the roof there.

    UFC buys have been terrible. Just fucking awful. Despite being a fucking freakshow fight, I think it would put a lot of gold in the coffers and Conor is going to want Mayweather money.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
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    I'd also be willing to take a small bet that McGregor fights in the next 6 months in the UFC.

    If GSP wins tonight he calls McGregor out. https://www.google.ca/amp/www.telegr...gend-call/amp/

    If they offer him Ferg in Ireland, he 100% takes that fight.
    I dont think we'll ever see him fight in Ireland, simply because they can't make nearly as much money on it as they can when he has huge vegas fights, esp. since Dublin wants no part of a fight card starting at 11 and ending at 6 AM. England might even be more likely, but still not likely.

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    Oleinik and Vick are tempting. Actually, everything over +240 is worthwhile probably.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crowe Diddly View Post
    Oleinik and Vick are tempting. Actually, everything over +240 is worthwhile probably.
    You take Oleinik, Cody and GSP. 3 fighter parlay, 25 to win 240ish

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    you know how i know all the money on gsp is dead?

    because if bisping loses, the division somehow becomes mildly interesting for a few fights.
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    My gut is saying Bisping by Decision.
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    Im putting $10 on a Bisping/GSP draw, who knows, it could happen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
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    I'd also be willing to take a small bet that McGregor fights in the next 6 months in the UFC.

    If GSP wins tonight he calls McGregor out. https://www.google.ca/amp/www.telegr...gend-call/amp/

    If they offer him Ferg in Ireland, he 100% takes that fight.

    But if GSP calls him out, suddenly we end up drowning in his co-promotion nonsense I'm guessing. "The money aint fookin right" etc. Because, for all the reasons you described, his leverage goes through the roof there.

    UFC buys have been terrible. Just fucking awful. Despite being a fucking freakshow fight, I think it would put a lot of gold in the coffers and Conor is going to want Mayweather money.
    GSP has said he's not interested in Conor at 170. That could be fighterese for, "Depends for how much", but generally I take GSP at his word because he also said he didn't want to fight Anderson on multiple occasions (granted, maybe he knew more than we did at the time re: PEDs) and its crazy that fight never happened because they both would have made so much money. I bet GSP's reluctance to *not* do that fight also was when the rift b/t him and Dana started, because in Dana's mind, GSP was setting money on fire (for Dana's pocket).

    Conor would fight Ferg in Vegas, but I'd think he'd prefer so in Ireland at Croke Park, or Texas Stadium where he gets a piece of the 100K+ ticket gate. He'd do a more amicable rev split with Nate or Khabib in Russia.....but not with Ferg because Conor is assuming most of the future ROI risk if he loses to Tony.

    I don't know how that happens because UFC are cunts when it comes to co-promotion deals and stuff with fighters, and Conor is under contract so he's essentially holding out while UFC, legally, holds the cards....but Conor has Dana/WMG/UFC bent over so much because of the waning UFC buys/debt WMG has to pay off, I think he has a chance of doing something like this....and this causing a huge rift among the rest of the UFC roster. Its comical, actually.

    I also think Conor and Paulie fighting at Croke Park maybe happens at some point too....especially once Conor "fights out" his UFC deal. Those two could fight later in their careers when they are over the hill and it'd still sell because of the freakshow hype around what would, for the most part, be a boring ass boxing match.

    I'm not sure how many fights he has left on his current UFC contract, but after Ferg/Nate Trilogy/Khabib in Russia only.....I don't think he's interested in any other UFC fights.

    P.S. i think Aleksei Oleinik +260 is great value tonight
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