I don't think many of us can comment on how ugly things got. One thing about fights they often escalate and you can end up doing shit way out of line.
Everyone's a grown up here and we don't need back room nastiness. So end it here. No more threats etc via pm for any member. If you really have a problem say it in front of everyone.

Lew and Willie are cornerstones here imo and I wouldn't like to see either permaband-banded or leave