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    So, what page of this thread did Reg Gaymer debunk this story as totally fake?

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by gimmick View Post
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    The survey figures only represent around 15,000 respondents.

    I'm not saying you are wrong, or right. The fact is, nobody knows.


    https://www.bra.se/bra-in-english/ho...me-survey.html

    Offences against individual persons
    Of those who answered the questions in the 2016 SCS, 13.3 per cent state that during the course of 2015, they were exposed to one or more of the types of offences referred to in the report as offences against the person: assault, threats, sexual offences, robbery, fraud or harassment. This is an increase as compared with the preceding year (in 2014 the percentage was 11.3%), but is approximately the same level as in 2005. When compared with 2014, the increase was greatest for threats, sexual offences, and harassment. The results from coming years will show whether the increase for the most recent year is the beginning of a new trend, or a temporary deviation from an otherwise relatively stable level.

    Until there is a decent sample size, then nobody can claim it is either true, or "fake news".
    15k is fairly decent from a population of 10million. Even if you go by official rape stats from the last 3 years there is no significant increase. In 2016 less incidents than 2014 and 2015 less than 2014. Between 2014-2016 Sweden took in something like 350k refugees. Might have been the most they have ever taken. It peaked in 2015 and that was the same year rapes dipped 12%. It's impossible to claim from those stats that rapes increased significantly because of migration. So of course you can say it's "fake news" (or propaganda if you like that word better).

    The current rapes in Sweden story is about last few years. I think it did the rounds around February in the aftermath of Trump having said something stupid. Possibly 2016 numbers weren't even out then. Story in different forms has been debunked in like 4ish different news cycles. 2012ish the first time.

    2005 and 2013 were the years they changed the way they define and record rape/sexual offenses. So the largest impact of that was for years 2006 and 2014.

    .15 percent is a decent size?

    I know what you are saying, but the fact is this is too small a sample size and not enough time to actually gauge an accurate sample.

    My whole point: you may or may not be right, but the Snopes article is bullshit because even the Swedish government can't confirm or deny this without said accurate samples and a shit ton of other variables. The last section of the article is opinion.
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    We were asked why we allowed overt racism. We were asked why giant black cocks were all over our website.

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    So these leaks coming out of the US which is compromising the Manchester investigation has royally pissed off the Brits and they've let it be known that trust has been betrayed.

    CNN of course have to report on this and several of their correspondents have tried to press home to Anderson Cooper the possible damage this could do to the relationship.

    Anderson though doesn't want to know and quickly diverts the conversation to other aspects of the Manchester attack.

    So CLEARLY these leaks won't be in any way damaging to Trump or his administration, otherwise Mr Cooper would've dedicated his full 2 hour slot to the story.


    I said this last week. But CNN is such a phoney garbage channel (but still not near as bad as Fox)

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by snake_in_the_ass View Post
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    This would be the stupidest bet of all time. There's been, roughly, 80 deaths by Islamic terrorists in the U.K. in the past 20 years.

    We have over 40 murders a day in the US 365 days a year. 80 a day during the worst years.

    Fear of an Islamic terror group ever getting hold of a WMD is a rational concern, but fear of getting killed by refugees with nothing to lose is akin to having watched Jaws and never entering the ocean again. It's purely irrational.

    It's horrible if you hit the anti-lotto and happen to lose your life or someone you love, but you're highly unlikely to ever even meet a person who knows someone killed by a refugee Islamic terrorist. Worry about your blood pressure, resting heartbeat, blood sugar, circumference of your waist. That shit will likely kill you.

    That's not a defense of these Stone Age barbarians. It's a defense of logic, reason, and simple probability.
    I was referring to Europe. That place is full of parasites. In regards to the murders in the states, how many of them are random vs targeted. If a gang banger is looking to kill another gang banger, my odds of being a victim are very low. Same with a pissed off husband looking to blast his wife.
    Yeah, I'm not advocating for more immigrants unless the job market demands it. We seem to be moving towards more automation and eventually a UBI structure down the line, probably beyond most of our life spans on the latter. A rational argument against immigration is simply we can't adequately employ our own. No further explanation required. If a specific skill set is required, vet them as England or Germany would vet me. I couldn't move there without a skill they needed badly or significant investment.

    I'm saying, sure, Europe may have a Muslim problem, but cyclical black poverty coupled with more guns than citizens will always be the '27 Yankees of violence. The Europe is so fucked hyperbole is full on nonsense. Our law enforcement agencies would get down on their knees and blow each other to have Europe's violence problems, no go zones or whatever. If it multiplied by 10 it would still be the kiddie pool compared to our everyday violence. The kid still needed to build a somewhat complicated and inefficient suicide vest to kill 20 teens. A mentally ill Aspie only needed a dumbass mother with a credit card to kill 20 pre-teens at Sandy Hook.

    By the way, had to travel a bit today, did Alex Jones buy this as true terrorism? Did any of Trump's right-wing ministers of information publicly doubt that it happened? They always seem to buy into terror abroad wholesale while calling conspiracy on incidents in our own back yard with grieving American parents.

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    We were asked why we allowed overt racism. We were asked why giant black cocks were all over our website.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cupid Stunt View Post
    LOTF - your boy not fucking about.


    Nope Tony doesn't mince his words. He's actually a decent chap in real life and is definitely NOT a racist. Comes most of the aways and sits amongst the lads with his kids. A proper fella.

    That said. I know he's super keen to stay in the boxing media after his career is done and I'm not sure that vid will help with that. Kugan his mate who did the vid should've been a mate and got it edited before putting it out.

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    This recent news is shocking. The FBI warned us, his friend warned us, two family members warned us, even his Mosque warned us. when a mosque calls up reporting it you gotta listen, surely? Obviously one warning isn't enough, i'm sure people call in all the time and FBI probably send lists of people every day, but the correlation of all this plus flights to turkey has to flag up an algorithm somewhere. I think this mass surveillance thing is clearly not working, we're making the haystack too big and the needle is impossible to find.

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    A different summary of I believe the same study.

    By Will Kirby, The Express, January 12, 2017:

    "In 2014, just one per cent of Swedish people said they had been sexually attacked, rising to 1.7 per cent in 2015, which equates to more than 129,000 people.


    The increase in sexual assault cases is having a devastating effect on the lives of Swedish women, with between 13 and 14 per cent saying they were afraid of venturing out in the evenings, according to new date.

    Around 22 per cent of women said they are concerned about sexual assault, as well as eight per cent of Swedish men.

    The data was revealed in an annual survey of around 12,000 people by he Swedish National Council for Crime Prevention (Brå), an agency working under the Ministry of Justice.

    Director general of the National Council, Erik Wennerström, said: “The difference between women’s and men’s insecurity is not acceptable in the society that we want.”

    The percentage of sexual assault victims in Sweden has hovered around the one per cent mark between 2005-2012 before a sharp jump to 1.3 per cent in 2013.

    While numbers dropped in 2014, the following year saw a huge surge in alleged sexually assault victims, with women aged between 20-24 considered the most at risk.

    he survey also found the most common location for sexual attacks is in public places, and the perpetrator is often unknown to the victim.The sexual assaults recorded were wide-ranging, from minor offences such as indecent exposure to rape and other very serious crimes.Major public events in Sweden, including music festivals, have been highlighted as areas where young women face a high chance of sexual harassment. Some Swedish women claim they are afraid to go out at night The country has seen a wave of sexual assaults in recent months, some of which have been committed by migrants who have recently arrived in Sweden.Swedish author Katerina Janouch recently claimed Sweden was struggling to cope with the migrant crisis.Speaking to Aftonbladet, she said: “I’m not saying it’s the refugees’ fault but we are are facing a crisis in migration issues.“I want to have a debate about what our society should look like. About how we allocate resources in our own country, how we distribute taxpayers’ money and which political decisions should be made.”

    What if fear has caused females to quit going out after dark, concerts etc. What would the numbers be if they behaved the same as before? Impossible to know but it could be substantial.

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    Also worth noting

    “Mirror, mirror, on the wall, which EU country loves George Soros most of all?”

    Sweden.

    George Soros’ Open Society Foundation hired a consulting firm to evaluate members of the European Parliament, in an effort to gauge support for the foundation’s core “values” until the end of their tenure in 2019.

    Here are the “mapping” results of The Open Society Foundation’s study, into how much influence it wields in the European Parliament.

    The mapping results of the study entitled “Reliable Allies in the European Parliament (2014-2019)”, reveal that Sweden tops all lists, as the country most loyal to the core values of billionaire George Soros.

    Link to Soros fairly large pdf
    Page 4 TTiP mentioned I haven't looked at their position on it but I have a good idea.
    It's going to be tough to avoid falling to Neoliberalism. This may be the biggest fork in the road America will ever face.
    http://www.geenstijl.nl/archives/ima...optbrussel.pdf

    I'm really not sure whether George Soro's intentions are good or if there's some conspiracy. The fuckin guy has to much power for someone not being elected.
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    Bump.

    Terrorist attack on London Bridge. News breaking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrTickle View Post
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    Terrorist attack on London Bridge. News breaking.
    Diversity is our strength.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlunderMaker View Post
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    Bump.

    Terrorist attack on London Bridge. News breaking.
    Diversity is our strength.
    Meanwhile, the Dems are investigating non-stop Trump campaign officials working with a couple Russians setting up some Facebook micro targeting.

     
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    Islam is a religion of peace. Keep on truckin', Europe.

     
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    And more religion of peace , aloha snackbars for england ! #ROP

     
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    wow gimmick be more of an islam mark??

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    Lol at the red rep from #libtards who support this shit, you make humanity an embarrassment . . .

     
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