This gets around the clock coverage for days from every media outlet but when we kill 20 innocent civilians it hardly worth mentioning.
This gets around the clock coverage for days from every media outlet but when we kill 20 innocent civilians it hardly worth mentioning.
Originally Posted by gimmick
The West meddling in the middle east help create the mess. However, ISIS has said time and time again that they will not stop until the West converts to Islam . That is their end game, and they will keep coming no matter what the West does to appease them.
The good thing about fighting Atheists is that the tend to want to live. Religious nuts actually think their lives improve when they die. You mix that in with thinking they are doing "gods" work by killing teenagers at a concert it isn't something that can be stopped with a peace treaty.. They will continue terrorizing the West until the West converts to Islam or they all die trying.
They dont just hate the West. The majority of terrorism is Muslim on Muslim. One group believes one version of and other believes another version of the same stupid religion.
Last edited by cmoney; 05-23-2017 at 06:36 AM.
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The West is conditioned to slaughtering masses of people in far away lands. We've done it for centuries - for us, its normal, and that is truly a disgrace.
Nah it's not even converting to ISLAM, it's to their wacko interpretation of ISLAM. ISIS kills more Muslims than any other religion and they are currently at war with the most of the Islamic world.
The West meddling in the middle east created the mess. However, ISIS has said time and time again that they will not stop until the West converts to Islam . That is their end game, and they will keep coming no matter what the West does to appease them.
The good thing about fighting Atheists is that the tend to want to live. Religious nuts actually think their lives improve when they die. You mix that in with thinking they are doing "gods" work by killing teenagers at a concert it isn't something that can be stopped with a peace treaty.. They will continue terrorizing the West until the West converts to Islam or they all die trying.
Meddling in the middle east created the breeding ground for the ilk of AL-Qaeda and ISIS (that are also at war with each other). Worse of the people are, more easily they are manipulated. And weirdly perception seems to matter in this (in absolute terms Trump supporters, people that voted for Brexit and homegrown terrorists are doing great compared to any war-torn 3rd world shithole).
For ISIS terrorism and propaganda are marketing basically. It's cheap and effective, but it doesn't really have to be like that. You can combat both and it has been done numerous times. For the propaganda part globally the biggest obstacle is likely clinging on to your 1st amendment (in a weirdly religious way) in the supply side of things. That's how Europe dealt with Nazi propaganda, by making it illegal and forcing it underground.
For terrorism funding and reacting to it seem to matter the most. Muslims themselves snitch on most homegrown terrorists and it's preferable to keep it that way. And portraying terrorists as anything less than fringe lunatics is just irresponsible. The view that they are rational representatives of Islam just has to stop. It's bad enough that ISIS spews that garbage, but it's just retarded for any western media to do their work for them.
There have been polls taken, and a surprising number of Muslims support what ISIS is doing, even if most of them would not actually take part in such a thing themselves.Nah it's not even converting to ISLAM, it's to their wacko interpretation of ISLAM. ISIS kills more Muslims than any other religion and they are currently at war with the most of the Islamic world.
Meddling in the middle east created the breeding ground for the ilk of AL-Qaeda and ISIS (that are also at war with each other). Worse of the people are, more easily they are manipulated. And weirdly perception seems to matter in this (in absolute terms Trump supporters, people that voted for Brexit and homegrown terrorists are doing great compared to any war-torn 3rd world shithole).
For ISIS terrorism and propaganda are marketing basically. It's cheap and effective, but it doesn't really have to be like that. You can combat both and it has been done numerous times. For the propaganda part globally the biggest obstacle is likely clinging on to your 1st amendment (in a weirdly religious way) in the supply side of things. That's how Europe dealt with Nazi propaganda, by making it illegal and forcing it underground.
For terrorism funding and reacting to it seem to matter the most. Muslims themselves snitch on most homegrown terrorists and it's preferable to keep it that way. And portraying terrorists as anything less than fringe lunatics is just irresponsible. The view that they are rational representatives of Islam just has to stop. It's bad enough that ISIS spews that garbage, but it's just retarded for any western media to do their work for them.
There's far more support of ISIS and other Muslim extremists than the left wants us to believe.
Again, as I said earlier, the #NotAllMuslims argument is ridiculous anyway, because it takes only a tiny percentage of violent Muslims to cause a big problem.
You say that people shouldn't "react", but that's an unreasonable request in this age of social media. When a radical Muslim terrorist kills 22 teenagers at a concert in England, people's natural reaction will be, "Oh no... yet another gruesome and brutal attack on our country by a Muslim", rather than, "This is just a fringe element. Muslims are peaceful people!"
The bottom line is that these type of incidents in the West are very disproportionately committed by Muslims, and attempting to brush that fact under the rug simply angers the types who end up voting for Brexit or Trump out of xenophobia.
When the "tolerant left" keeps saying, "Muslims are peaceful, they aren't disproportionately committing acts of terror, it's all conservative propaganda, thinking this way is Islamophobic", that's when Joe Citizen in any of the affected country tunes out and says, "Let's vote for the candidate who wants to be frank with us about the Islamic terrorism problem, even if he/she otherwise sucks."
The problem is that the left sees today's Muslims as the gays of the 2000s and the blacks of the 1960s. They think they've found another persecuted minority to take up for, but the problem is that this persecuted minority is not really persecuted, but rather has a very dangerous fringe element who wants to destroy our country and way of life.
http://blog.dilbert.com/post/1609860...s-hello-losers
Still no videos of the explosion?
How is that possible?
Well obviously i'm not saying we shouldn't limit the rights of gays for spreading the devils disease or the blacks for being hella rapey (that's just common knowledge). I mean clearly the right was correct on those crusades. No one in their right mind would object to that today. History proved them right. With such a proven track record who could question the right on any these type of issues.There have been polls taken, and a surprising number of Muslims support what ISIS is doing, even if most of them would not actually take part in such a thing themselves.
There's far more support of ISIS and other Muslim extremists than the left wants us to believe.
Again, as I said earlier, the #NotAllMuslims argument is ridiculous anyway, because it takes only a tiny percentage of violent Muslims to cause a big problem.
You say that people shouldn't "react", but that's an unreasonable request in this age of social media. When a radical Muslim terrorist kills 22 teenagers at a concert in England, people's natural reaction will be, "Oh no... yet another gruesome and brutal attack on our country by a Muslim", rather than, "This is just a fringe element. Muslims are peaceful people!"
The bottom line is that these type of incidents in the West are very disproportionately committed by Muslims, and attempting to brush that fact under the rug simply angers the types who end up voting for Brexit or Trump out of xenophobia.
When the "tolerant left" keeps saying, "Muslims are peaceful, they aren't disproportionately committing acts of terror, it's all conservative propaganda, thinking this way is Islamophobic", that's when Joe Citizen in any of the affected country tunes out and says, "Let's vote for the candidate who wants to be frank with us about the Islamic terrorism problem, even if he/she otherwise sucks."
The problem is that the left sees today's Muslims as the gays of the 2000s and the blacks of the 1960s. They think they've found another persecuted minority to take up for, but the problem is that this persecuted minority is not really persecuted, but rather has a very dangerous fringe element who wants to destroy our country and way of life.
We've been through before with your amazing fact that more people support stuff when they don't actually have to do anything about it.
The anti-Islamic rhetoric preceded the current terror spree. Is that just a weird coincidence? Was it wrong before but now it's right?
You really should just outline your definitive solution to the Muslim problem so i don't have to randomly guess. You'd think it would be easier than hinting at it, taking random shots at the generic left (what ever fuck that is) or telling us riveting tales of what that same left want's us to believe (likely with some extra special sneaky jewy methods).
There have been polls taken, and a surprising number of Muslims support what ISIS is doing, even if most of them would not actually take part in such a thing themselves.
There's far more support of ISIS and other Muslim extremists than the left wants us to believe.
Again, as I said earlier, the #NotAllMuslims argument is ridiculous anyway, because it takes only a tiny percentage of violent Muslims to cause a big problem.
You say that people shouldn't "react", but that's an unreasonable request in this age of social media. When a radical Muslim terrorist kills 22 teenagers at a concert in England, people's natural reaction will be, "Oh no... yet another gruesome and brutal attack on our country by a Muslim", rather than, "This is just a fringe element. Muslims are peaceful people!"
The bottom line is that these type of incidents in the West are very disproportionately committed by Muslims, and attempting to brush that fact under the rug simply angers the types who end up voting for Brexit or Trump out of xenophobia.
When the "tolerant left" keeps saying, "Muslims are peaceful, they aren't disproportionately committing acts of terror, it's all conservative propaganda, thinking this way is Islamophobic", that's when Joe Citizen in any of the affected country tunes out and says, "Let's vote for the candidate who wants to be frank with us about the Islamic terrorism problem, even if he/she otherwise sucks."
The problem is that the left sees today's Muslims as the gays of the 2000s and the blacks of the 1960s. They think they've found another persecuted minority to take up for, but the problem is that this persecuted minority is not really persecuted, but rather has a very dangerous fringe element who wants to destroy our country and way of life.
This argument fires up every time they hurt us (the West) and nothing you're saying here is nothing which isn't being hotly discussed by a lot more people than you might think in places such as the UK.
Half of my own family and most of my friends think we need to be calling a spade a spade in the way of laying the blame on the Muslims communities. Of course these views don't make it to the wider audience in fear of being tagged racist. But I can assure you that it isn't a small minority who are angry at British Muslims in general.
But what none of them have, is the solution. Just finger pointing, at each other and Muslims.
How do we make it stop. Coz outside the ridiculous Hitler shouts. Nobody has anything aside from apportioning blame.
So I ask you. What in your opinion is the solution to stopping these attacks? Not looking for blame. I'm looking to hear a solid idea to the solution. As I've yet to see one yet, from anybody really.
Europe will be overrun with Muslims by 2040.
"I hit that shot because it was a defining moment and when a defining moment comes along, you either define the moment or the moment defines you" Roy "Tin Cup" Mcevoy
S T U N N I N G! I can't believe this is Sweden. I knew it was crazy but not this crazy.
60 Minutes Australia visits Sweden, there's already 55 no go zones. A no go zone is an area surrendered by the Swedish Police to these savages and 55 is the number released by the police. We have to avoid politicians that take Soros money.
They let these Somali migrants in to help them out and this is the thanks they get.
Cliffs: Fuck Somali immigrants!
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They will simply take over by breeding.
:freelewfather
They will simply take over by breeding.
True story actually
During the recent election in Turkey the Turkish Foreign Minister was barred from entering the Netherlands to hold rallies in support of Erdogan, which was aimed at Turkish expats who had the vote.
This was his tilt reply at the Dutch snub
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/17/w...rope.html?_r=0
If you read the article he actually encourages Turks living in the West to have 5 or more children.Calling Turks the “future of Europe,” Turkey’s president on Friday implored his compatriots living on the Continent to have multiple children as an act of revenge against the West’s “injustices.”
And i'll be honest. That seriously got my attention.
This has been an issue for a long time, the Muslims breed like wildfire and the whites have been pulling back for years, focusing more on careers than a family life. It's called Eurabia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eurabia
They will simply take over by breeding.
Also where I'm from is about 20 mins away from Dearborn, MI. You've probably heard about it because of Ford, if not you've heard about it because it's the highest populated area of arabs in the US. Take a look at this:
Where I live at least before the housing market crashed was an area over 100k which was 96% white, also was the safest cities in America with a population over 100k (go figure). I still remember when 9/11 hit, because of our close proximity to Dearborn and us being a bunch of white kids, they locked the school down just in case. Some kids were picked up by parents early, most stayed but I still remember the buses dropping kids off individually at their houses instead of dropping whole groups off at designated bus stops. All that said, I still love the food.
Most legit projections put the number of Muslims at something like 10% in 2050 and that's assuming they all embrace Islam for the rest of their life. Something like 30-50% them don't when they live in Europe or US. And the fertility rates go down from 3rd world standards. ATM it's something like 2.2 for Muslims and 1,5 for non-Muslims in Europe.
They will simply take over by breeding.
True story actually
During the recent election in Turkey the Turkish Foreign Minister was barred from entering the Netherlands to hold rallies in support of Erdogan, which was aimed at Turkish expats who had the vote.
This was his tilt reply at the Dutch snub
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/17/w...rope.html?_r=0
If you read the article he actually encourages Turks living in the West to have 5 or more children.Calling Turks the “future of Europe,” Turkey’s president on Friday implored his compatriots living on the Continent to have multiple children as an act of revenge against the West’s “injustices.”
And i'll be honest. That seriously got my attention.
ladies and gentlemen.... the dan druff experience.
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you know he prefers to be called doctor todge
Fertility rate for Iran is much lower at 1.74, which reinforces just how thick the west is to side with the Sunni/Arab branch of Islam which is what contains most of the fruit loops, and which is breeding like crazy.Most legit projections put the number of Muslims at something like 10% in 2050 and that's assuming they all embrace Islam for the rest of their life. Something like 30-50% them don't when they live in Europe or US. And the fertility rates go down from 3rd world standards. ATM it's something like 2.2 for Muslims and 1,5 for non-Muslims in Europe.
Yea i think they subsidized contraception at some point. And the usual prosperity, education and slightly less retarded religious beliefs. In the 60's they were still at 6.9 when world average was 5ish (maybe 2.4 now).Fertility rate for Iran is much lower at 1.74, which reinforces just how thick the west is to side with the Sunni/Arab branch of Islam which is what contains most of the fruit loops, and which is breeding like crazy.Most legit projections put the number of Muslims at something like 10% in 2050 and that's assuming they all embrace Islam for the rest of their life. Something like 30-50% them don't when they live in Europe or US. And the fertility rates go down from 3rd world standards. ATM it's something like 2.2 for Muslims and 1,5 for non-Muslims in Europe.
When i was kid semi legit fear was that at some point half the world would be Chinese. Fertility rate in China is at 1.2 now. So i guess that fixed itself.
It's the tone of the threat coming out of Erdogan's mouth which bothers me, not breeding Muslims. What he said was highly menacing and dangerous.Most legit projections put the number of Muslims at something like 10% in 2050 and that's assuming they all embrace Islam for the rest of their life. Something like 30-50% them don't when they live in Europe or US. And the fertility rates go down from 3rd world standards. ATM it's something like 2.2 for Muslims and 1,5 for non-Muslims in Europe.
Stated many times on here I've got no problem with Muslims. Easily spent around 2 years of my life in Muslim countries and they've never given me a problem. The total opposite in fact.
Muslims in my community are good people too. Fuckers feed me, cut my hair and taxi me around all over the place. They bring to the table and there is zero racial tension where I am. Though it has to be said that there are 'some' Muslim ghettos in parts of England where that tension does exist.
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