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    I have never been more proud than when the President issued his Executive Order on religious freedoms this week. Getting God back into the fabric of this country is an amazing thing.

    The President is why I am so excited for the future. In the next 7+ years he will be able to appoint maybe 4 new Supreme Court Justices tilting the Court until say 2057. Think about that, 2057! Most in this thread will have long since died, but our children and grandchildren will feel the effects of the Trump Court.

    I hope Trump digs in and jettisons the Paris Accord on Climate change which is a huge fucking scam. I hope the President celebrates the withdrawal by ordering the EPA to approve all coal plant applications.

    It's great to be alive and an American, that is for sure. A special time and moment.

    It's morning again in America.
    You want to bet on how many SC Justices Trump appoints and are confirmed to the Court? I'll take under 3.5. How much of your big baller bankroll you built by scraping shit out of toilets are you willing to put up?
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    Quote Originally Posted by hongkonger View Post
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    I have never been more proud than when the President issued his Executive Order on religious freedoms this week. Getting God back into the fabric of this country is an amazing thing.

    The President is why I am so excited for the future. In the next 7+ years he will be able to appoint maybe 4 new Supreme Court Justices tilting the Court until say 2057. Think about that, 2057! Most in this thread will have long since died, but our children and grandchildren will feel the effects of the Trump Court.

    I hope Trump digs in and jettisons the Paris Accord on Climate change which is a huge fucking scam. I hope the President celebrates the withdrawal by ordering the EPA to approve all coal plant applications.

    It's great to be alive and an American, that is for sure. A special time and moment.

    It's morning again in America.
    You want to bet on how many SC Justices Trump appoints and are confirmed to the Court? I'll take under 3.5. How much of your big baller bankroll you built by scraping shit out of toilets are you willing to put up?
    No, not interested in betting you. But thanks, go back to your life tilt.

     
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    Attention lurkers of this thread

    Please just insta scroll over every hongmonger post

    Its just not worth it..the guy is functionally retarded. Its a miracle of nature he can even form a complete sentence

    Going out on a limb here, but I'm relatively certain that TRUMPCARE doesn't cover his preexisting mongoloidism

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by View From Within View Post
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    You want to bet on how many SC Justices Trump appoints and are confirmed to the Court? I'll take under 3.5. How much of your big baller bankroll you built by scraping shit out of toilets are you willing to put up?
    No, not interested in betting you. But thanks, go back to your life tilt.
    Even more ridiculous, Hongmonger just offered a bet with a payout in 2024. You talk about a tilt mong. Monger you really need to sit down with someone and talk about your Trump obsession.

     
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    He's the WOAT

    OK maybe FPS is, but hongmonger is running a close 2nd sucking massive n-word libtard balls

    Time for conservatives to hijack this thread and muzzle these fucking wombats

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    I am semi hopeful Trump will re-institute the Draft. Mandatory military service for those not going to college. Israel does this and they have virtually no youth unemployment.

    I also hope Trump puts a huge Nativity Scene on the front lawn of the White House this December.

     
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    Ellen Degeneres just said that Trump can't be on her show

    LMAO

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyde View Post
    Ellen Degeneres just said that Trump can't be on her show

    LMAO
    Ellen Degeneres has the unique distinction in the lesbian community, her lover Anne Heche dumped her for a man. You cannot make this stuff up. And LOL that Donald Trump as President was even going to go on her show. It's like Rachel Maddow stating Trump is not welcome on her show. LOL, he would never go either way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by View From Within View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Tyde View Post
    Ellen Degeneres just said that Trump can't be on her show

    LMAO
    Ellen Degeneres has the unique distinction in the lesbian community, her lover Anne Heche dumped her for a man. You cannot make this stuff up. And LOL that Donald Trump as President was even going to go on her show. It's like Rachel Maddow stating Trump is not welcome on her show. LOL, he would never go either way.
    LOL please post more

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    One more point, you think its bad now on the left, wait until Trump rescinds this Global Warming / Paris Accord bullshit. Which is a scam by the way, especially since India and China violate every premise of smog control. The left will go apeshit and say Trump is destroying the planet. There are actually left wingers getting neutered so they do not accidentally have kids and further "pollute" the planet. This people have mental conditions, I just sit back and laugh at them, its better than going to the movies, CNN that is.

    FAKE NEWS = CNN. SAD!

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    By the Way, this thread # is 888. I used to online gamble on a site 888.com in the early 2000s. I have no idea if it still exists. I lost like 20K there, and self banned myself. I tried to gamble there again like a month later after I self banned myself, and I got an email from "Security" saying I was no longer welcome on their site as I self banned myself. Fuck you asshole.

    Anyway, I have not thought of 888.com since like 2004 until I saw this thread. This place, this place, this place....

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    Liberal spin fest on full alert

    Buckle up and enjoy the CIRCUS of full blown insanity

    Meanwhile in a little town called REALITY....the American public is watching TRUMP make the liberal agenda and all snowflakes his BITCH

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by View From Within View Post
    One more point, you think its bad now on the left, wait until Trump rescinds this Global Warming / Paris Accord bullshit. Which is a scam by the way, especially since India and China violate every premise of smog control. The left will go apeshit and say Trump is destroying the planet. There are actually left wingers getting neutered so they do not accidentally have kids and further "pollute" the planet. This people have mental conditions, I just sit back and laugh at them, its better than going to the movies, CNN that is.

    FAKE NEWS = CNN. SAD!


    SERIOUSLY. if u libtards actually want to make a difference, become world class Chinese and indian political activists. WORLD CLASS AMERICAN POLITICAL ACTIVIST POSITION HAS BEEN FILLED

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    Obv libtards ITT napping it out BIGTIME today

    Its OK crybabies. Get some rest. Only 7 years and change left FAGGOTS

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    Quote Originally Posted by limitles View Post
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    Without even getting into the reasons why socialized medicine sucks, I'll cover it from an even simpler standpoint.

    The US has a problem that other countries do not -- simply that health care has become tremendously overpriced.

    Current proposals in the US for socialized care would simply shift the bill from the patients and insurance companies to the government. Costs will still be ridiculously high, but the bill will just be shifted to Uncle Sam (the taxpayers). In fact, it would get even WORSE, because utilization would be much higher (due to everything being "free").

    Idiot liberals like to spout nonsense such as, "Take insurance company profits and marketing expenses out, and we will save a ton of money, and everything will be much cheaper!", but that's completely misunderstanding where the money in health care has been going. Insurance company profits and marketing overhead are a drop in the bucket compared to overall health care costs in the US.

    The problem here is that the costs are outrageously high, and no one is proposing anything effective to do anything about it. Instead, we have endless debates as to who pays for it. That's where our core mistake is.

    Once we get costs, fraud, and waste under control, then we can talk about who pays for it.



    U.S. Administrative costs are significantly higher in the U.S.; government mandates on record keeping and the diversity of insurers, plans and administrative layers involved in every transaction result in greater administrative effort. One recent study comparing administrative costs in the two countries found that these costs in the U.S. are roughly double what they are in Canada

    According to health data collected by the OECD, average income for physicians in the United States in 1996 was nearly twice that for physicians in Canada.

    The main difference is that patented drug prices in Canada average between 35% and 45% lower than in the United States, though generic prices are higher. The price differential for brand-name drugs between the two countries has led Americans to purchase upward of $1 billion US in drugs per year from Canadian pharmacies.



    In the U.S., the federal government does not guarantee universal healthcare to all its citizens, but publicly funded healthcare programs help to provide for the elderly, disabled, the poor, and children

    In 2006, healthcare consumed 15.3% of U.S. annual GDP. In Canada, only 10% of GDP was spent on healthcare
    All you're doing is proving my points here:

    1) US healthcare is too expensive and costs need to be controlled

    2) Shifting around who pays for it will retain those high costs, even if we go to a socialized model

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    Quote Originally Posted by View From Within View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Tyde View Post
    Ellen Degeneres just said that Trump can't be on her show

    LMAO
    Ellen Degeneres has the unique distinction in the lesbian community, her lover Anne Heche dumped her for a man. You cannot make this stuff up. And LOL that Donald Trump as President was even going to go on her show. It's like Rachel Maddow stating Trump is not welcome on her show. LOL, he would never go either way.
    Gotta feel bad for Ellen. She got used by a fake lesbian who wanted to further her sagging career.

    Heche has never been with a woman besides Ellen, by her own admission.

    Uh huh. You're a pretty, well-known, supposedly bisexual actress and you decide to sow your wild lesbian oats with Ellen Fucking Degeneres, and no one else? LOL

    Pretty much everyone except Ellen knew at the time that the whole relationship was a scam.

    At least Ellen bounced back and has been with a legit hot lesbian since 2004.


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    Quote Originally Posted by blake View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post

    Without even getting into the reasons why socialized medicine sucks, I'll cover it from an even simpler standpoint.

    The US has a problem that other countries do not -- simply that health care has become tremendously overpriced.

    Current proposals in the US for socialized care would simply shift the bill from the patients and insurance companies to the government. Costs will still be ridiculously high, but the bill will just be shifted to Uncle Sam (the taxpayers). In fact, it would get even WORSE, because utilization would be much higher (due to everything being "free").

    Idiot liberals like to spout nonsense such as, "Take insurance company profits and marketing expenses out, and we will save a ton of money, and everything will be much cheaper!", but that's completely misunderstanding where the money in health care has been going. Insurance company profits and marketing overhead are a drop in the bucket compared to overall health care costs in the US.

    The problem here is that the costs are outrageously high, and no one is proposing anything effective to do anything about it. Instead, we have endless debates as to who pays for it. That's where our core mistake is.

    Once we get costs, fraud, and waste under control, then we can talk about who pays for it.
    whether you think it's a good thing or not, socialized medicine is an absolute certainty in the US in the very near future. in 20 or 30 years, people won't even understand that this was a discussion.

    for god's sake, charles krauthammer, who is as big a free market conservative as has ever existed, said this week that we're less than seven years away from single payer in the US. i think that's a bit aggressive, but he's right that the majority of people now see health care as a right.

    “I think historically speaking we are at the midpoint,” Krauthammer stated. “We had seven years of ObamaCare, changing expectations. And I would predict that in less than seven years, we will be in a single-payer system.”

    He went on to explain how ironic he feels this is due to his belief that the ACA has failed and led to widespread Democratic election defeats over the past six-plus years. However, what it did do is shift the debate to the left.

    “Look at the terms of the debate,” he said. “Republicans are not arguing the free market anymore.”
    http://www.mediaite.com/tv/charles-k...r-health-care/

    I actually agree with this.

    I told the same thing to my father in February, when we were discussing the future of US health care.

    I said that Republicans have a relatively short time to fix our existing system. Not just a band-aid fix, but a massive overhaul which will improve the situation for most Americans. They don't seem interested in doing this, but rather are obsessing over the concept of, "We don't want to pay for other people's health care", which just makes them come off as cold and callous.

    After what looks like an inevitable period of fail regarding health care reform, idiot Americans will throw up their hands and say, "Well, maybe the left was right. Maybe socialized medicine is the only answer!", and support for that will grow.

    I don't like it, but that's the future we're headed for, and for all the wrong reasons.

    If I were in charge of the Republican counter to Obamacare, I would state that I'm leaving Obamacare in place while we seriously reform cost, fraud, and billing, with the promise to seriously reform/replace Obamacare itself once these matters are under control.

    That would be a lot harder for liberals to criticize. Who would argue for higher costs, continued opaque billing, or continued high fraud levels?

    Then, once that was at least somewhat accomplished, I would work on a reform to Obamacare which keeps its basic premise (no one can be denied for health care, subsidies for those who truly can't afford it), while removing lots of the ridiculous aspects of it (including the dumb "one size fits all" pricing).

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    And for all the whining on the right about "OMG a mandate to buy insurance is so awful", you actually need that in order to prevent people from gaming the system.

    Otherwise people will just go without health insurance, and then buy it only when they have a major medical expense coming up. Clearly that's not fair to insurance companies or anyone else paying for an ongoing policy.

    There either needs to be a mandate or a clear agreement by those who choose not to sign up for insurance that they will be left to die if they choose not to have a policy and can't afford care.

    But it's gotta be one of those two things.

    The current Republican plan removing the mandate but allowing insurance companies to charge more for 1 year for people with gaps in insurance is just LOL.

    Yeah, I'm sure insurance companies will just love it when the guy without insurance for 30 years pays a higher premium this year only because he has an expensive-to-treat cancer.

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    But of course, then we have idiots on the left basically saying, "Let's just go single payer! Let the rich pay! Raise their taxes! We deserve free stuff!"

    They don't really want any cost reform or any other meaningful reform.

    They just want Uncle Sam to foot the bill for everyone's medical care, funded off the backs of Americans who actually work and contribute to society.

    No.

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