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    I need someone to place some bets in the UK for me...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mintjewlips View Post
    Getting back on track...

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    Shits gonna get real folks, journalist will be arrested, and leaks will be plugged.
    Where was the outrage over the leaked emails you hypocritical dopey fuck?

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    Alright Goys, lets look at the big picture. I just want to remind you our entire MSM is deeply involved in the defense establishment, they're literally war profiteers most of which are based out of Tel Aviv. Don't ever forget their real concern is profit (war) and achieving Israel's strategic objectives at our expense in both blood and treasure.
    This is not hyperbole or an exaggeration in any way

    We're so pwned that $10 million dollars a day plus war w/ Iran, afghan, Iraq, and Syria all for Israel is not enough. We have to fight these wars while alienating Russia. FFS there's billions to be made from a new cold war and their girl Hillary was totally on board. It doesn't matter if your kids and grand kids are traumatized by growing up in poverty and constantly reminded of the threat of nuclear war, matter of fact that's a good thing.

    On avg. 22 American soldiers commit suicide every day. Why doesn't Andrea Mitchell talk about this hmm.

    22 today 22 yesterday 22 the day before 22 the day before that 22 the day before that 22 the day before that 22 the day before that 22 the day before that..... War must really be hell.
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    Puzder is out lol!

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by El Gallo View Post
    Puzder is out lol!

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    Puzder is out lol!

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    i'm kind of shocked that trump got rid of flynn. trump came out today praising him and weirdly blamed the whole thing on the media. does anyone really think trump would have been upset if flynn told the russians not to overreact to obama's sanctions? trump would have endorsed (and probably did endorse) that conversation. firing flynn is a weird departure from trump's standard operating procedure. why cave?

    is he finally buckling under media scrutiny?

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    TRUMP will NOT be filling out a TOURNEY BRACKET for ESPN


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    Quote Originally Posted by blake View Post
    i'm kind of shocked that trump got rid of flynn. trump came out today praising him and weirdly blamed the whole thing on the media. does anyone really think trump would have been upset if flynn told the russians not to overreact to obama's sanctions? trump would have endorsed (and probably did endorse) that conversation. firing flynn is a weird departure from trump's standard operating procedure. why cave?

    is he finally buckling under media scrutiny?
    because a) he didnt work through normal diplomatic channels, he called Sergey Kislyak (whom is FSB) at the embassy for example, and b) the contents of some of those conversations were orchestrating the release of the DNC hack intel.

    oh also




    ..he's an amphetamine addict.
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    bigger question -- wtf is this war he has with the NSA? trump can't even make a phone call without the full details of that call getting insta-leaked to the press. i kind of like it cause i think trump is a clown, but yeah it's probably not a good idea for the intelligence community to be completely working against the president.

    this may just be a sign that the NSA (or some other entity) is mortified by trump's behavior and thinks he has no idea what he's doing

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    Quote Originally Posted by blake View Post
    bigger question -- wtf is this war he has with the NSA? trump can't even make a phone call without the full details of that call getting insta-leaked to the press. i kind of like it cause i think trump is a clown, but yeah it's probably not a good idea for the intelligence community to be completely working against the president.

    this may just be a sign that the NSA (or some other entity) is mortified by trump's behavior and thinks he has no idea what he's doing

    yeah weird its not like the entire intelligence community have been sounding alarms about trump for fucking ever or anything, and its certainly not like trump has taken every opportunity to imply that the intelligence community are incompetent goofs who are soft on terror because they dont nuke isis.

    honestly 80% of the news i see about trump these days is about how the intelligence community is calling him the biggest threat to the republic since the civil war, how do you walk between those raindrops?
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    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
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    i'm kind of shocked that trump got rid of flynn. trump came out today praising him and weirdly blamed the whole thing on the media. does anyone really think trump would have been upset if flynn told the russians not to overreact to obama's sanctions? trump would have endorsed (and probably did endorse) that conversation. firing flynn is a weird departure from trump's standard operating procedure. why cave?

    is he finally buckling under media scrutiny?
    because a) he didnt work through normal diplomatic channels, he called Sergey Kislyak (whom is FSB) at the embassy for example, and b) the contents of some of those conversations were orchestrating the release of the DNC hack intel..
    god i'd love to see if this possibility develops

    still though, seems weird to me with trump. he's giving the dems a win which i didn't think he'd do so easily. maybe the dnc hack thing has legs. there has to be something more to this

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    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by blake View Post
    bigger question -- wtf is this war he has with the NSA? trump can't even make a phone call without the full details of that call getting insta-leaked to the press. i kind of like it cause i think trump is a clown, but yeah it's probably not a good idea for the intelligence community to be completely working against the president.

    this may just be a sign that the NSA (or some other entity) is mortified by trump's behavior and thinks he has no idea what he's doing

    yeah weird its not like the entire intelligence community have been sounding alarms about trump for fucking ever or anything, and its certainly not like trump has taken every opportunity to imply that the intelligence community are incompetent goofs who are soft on terror because they dont nuke isis.

    honestly 80% of the news i see about trump these days is about how the intelligence community is calling him the biggest threat to the republic since the civil war, how do you walk between those raindrops?
    this is also correct.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blake View Post
    i'm kind of shocked that trump got rid of flynn. trump came out today praising him and weirdly blamed the whole thing on the media. does anyone really think trump would have been upset if flynn told the russians not to overreact to obama's sanctions? trump would have endorsed (and probably did endorse) that conversation. firing flynn is a weird departure from trump's standard operating procedure. why cave?

    is he finally buckling under media scrutiny?


    Pure speculation, but there seems to be two distinct camps in Trumpworld. Trump/Bannon/Flynn/Kushner that is pro-Russia and all about the graft. The other side of Pence/Priebus/establishment senators which hold typical wacky Christian views and more traditional Cold War opinion of Russia.

    I think running out Pence to make a fool of himself and lie repeatedly was a bridge too far for the second group. All Pence needs is 4 senators to kill anything Trump wants to do. They align on plenty of issues, but there's
    plenty of spots they disagree, like trade, NATO, etc. You push the second group too far and they'll run out McCain, Lindsay, Collins, and Marco against the shit you really want. I think they're content to let Trump enrich himself as long as they further their agenda, but Pence is the serious straight man. You can't run him out to play the fool. Sources say he was the most instrumental figure in Flynn's removal. That makes logical sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blake View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post

    because a) he didnt work through normal diplomatic channels, he called Sergey Kislyak (whom is FSB) at the embassy for example, and b) the contents of some of those conversations were orchestrating the release of the DNC hack intel..
    god i'd love to see if this possibility develops

    still though, seems weird to me with trump. he's giving the dems a win which i didn't think he'd do so easily. maybe the dnc hack thing has legs. there has to be something more to this

    think of it this way; this is all Game of Thrones.. Pence is Cersei Lannister, Trump is Geoffrey, and Bannon is Littlefinger.

    my theory is that very soon, a bunch of transcripts will drop showing that the Flynn convos were nothing, Trump will release his tax returns showing nothing of interest, and Bannon will force the media to kiss the ring, instantly legitimizing an actual honest to god white nationalist coup and destroying the credibility of any negative item they report on the administration from then on.

    also, excellent background on the CIA/NSA vs Trump situation:

    http://www.wbur.org/radioboston/2016...nn-carle-trump
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    This just dropped in Newsweek:

    The sources said the interceptions include at least one contact between former National Security Adviser Michael Flynn and a Russian official based in the United States. It could not be confirmed whether this involved the telephone call with Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak that has led to Flynn’s resignation, or additional communications. The sources said the intercepted communications are not just limited to telephone calls: The foreign agency is also gathering electronic and human source information on Trump’s overseas business partners, at least some of whom the intelligence services now consider to be agents of their respective governments. These operations are being conducted out of concerns that Russia is seeking to manipulate its relationships with Trump administration officials as part of a long-term plan to destabilize the NATO alliance.

    Moreover, a Baltic nation is gathering intelligence on officials in the Trump White House and executives with the president’s company, the Trump Organization, out of concern that an American policy shift toward Russia could endanger its sovereignty, according to a third person with direct ties to that nation’s government.

    These sources spoke on condition that they not be identified because they were not formally authorized to disclose the information. While Newsweek was told which allied nations intercepted the communications and are gathering intelligence on Trump associates, the sources did so on condition that the countries not be identified out of concern those governments would incur the president’s wrath.

    The Western European intelligence operations began in August, after the British government obtained information that people acting on behalf of Russia were in contact with members of the Trump campaign. Those details from the British were widely shared among the NATO allies in Europe. The Baltic nation has been gathering intelligence for at least that long, and has conducted surveillance of executives from the Trump Organization who were traveling in Europe.

    These operations reflect a serious breakdown in the long-standing faith in the direction of American policy by some of the country’s most important allies. Worse, the United States is now in a situation that may be unprecedented—where European governments know more about what is going on in the executive branch than any elected American official. To date, the Republican-controlled Congress has declined to conduct hearings to investigate the links between Trump’s overseas business partners and foreign governments, or the activities between Russia and officials in the Trump campaign and administration—the very areas being examined by the intelligence services of at least two American allies.
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    So our intelligence allies have determined that Trump is using his corporate executives as cutouts for clandestine communication with hostile foreign states.

    But hey, her emails, amirite?


    Pretty sure thats why at least one senior IC member predicted yesterday that Trump will die in jail.



    Link: http://www.newsweek.com/allies-inter...cations-557283
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    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
    So our intelligence allies have determined that Trump is using his corporate executives as cutouts for clandestine communication with hostile foreign states.

    But hey, her emails, amirite?


    Pretty sure thats why at least one senior IC member predicted yesterday that Trump will die in jail.
    i'd have a lot more faith in any type of serious investigation if we didn't have a republican congress that will be happy with trump as long as he rubber stamps their agenda

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    Quote Originally Posted by blake View Post
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    So our intelligence allies have determined that Trump is using his corporate executives as cutouts for clandestine communication with hostile foreign states.

    But hey, her emails, amirite?


    Pretty sure thats why at least one senior IC member predicted yesterday that Trump will die in jail.
    i'd have a lot more faith in any type of serious investigation if we didn't have a republican congress that will be happy with trump as long as he rubber stamps their agenda

    i think a lot of those republicans would see it as win/win; President Pence + IC owes them a favor.

    but i expect your take on this is a lot more down to earth.
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    also harward is the real fucking deal and is not by any stretch of the imagination one of bannon's cabal, much less one of trump's. there is a very real expectation that he's going to basically purge bannon's sith lord faggotry from national security.
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