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    Quote Originally Posted by GrenadaRoger View Post
    so the wall along the Mexican border has been executive ordered today....

    here is what the numbers are for what is proposed:

    1950 miles of US/Mexican border...Trump wants to put up a wall on 1000 miles of it, the rest of the border will get by with the natural barriers. currently there is 700 miles of fence on the border, mostly in California, Arizona & New Mexico...it is estimated that the wall will cost about 6.5 million per mile...$6,500,000,000 all told (the fence is far cheaper per mile)

    the Congress will authorize financing that will ultimately be recovered by higher visa fees for Mexican entering the US and from seizing bank transfers from the US to Mexico made by illegal aliens...that is part of Trumps plan to have Mexico pay

    lots of folks say that walls don't work...but defenders point to the western wall in Israel to protect Jerusalem as being an example of an effective one

    thoughts?
    note that although it costs 6.5m per mile to build, no one has broached the topic of what it will cost to maintain it, or that anyone with a fucking ladder can get over it unless every inch of it is staffed.

    regardless.. about 700k mexicans legally cross the border every year. if you tax each one an extra $5, thats a total profit of $3.5m a year....

    so ok cool we should get that wall paid off in about 1,857 years.

    lets say 1500 years if we somehow find the legal grounds to steal money from illegal aliens.

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    plop said he goes from the window to the walls. check yourselves.

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    Holy shit what a bunch of fucking lightweights

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    I just can't wait until Trump enforces Martial Law, Barry said so.

    Then i can activate my local militia and we'll all have our own episodes on Doomsday Preppers.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gordman View Post
    Ok, lets take a hiatus, shake hands, have a drink because im already drinking, and fucker right in the pussy!



    And someone explain to me why Shooz's brother is in this thread. Don't tell me thats OSA, unless Shooz and OSA are related.


    And what happened to Shooz anyway??
    The times Shooz flew over from England 2 friends came along. One of those 2 worked for an airline, so they all flew cheap. On his last known trip here Shooz mentioned that the situation was going to change and he didn't know if he would be flying to vegas again anytime soon. Shooz became less active and after a while when he did post a few peeps relentlessly trolled him. Shortly after he said fuck it and stopped posting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by GrenadaRoger View Post
    so the wall along the Mexican border has been executive ordered today....

    here is what the numbers are for what is proposed:

    1950 miles of US/Mexican border...Trump wants to put up a wall on 1000 miles of it, the rest of the border will get by with the natural barriers. currently there is 700 miles of fence on the border, mostly in California, Arizona & New Mexico...it is estimated that the wall will cost about 6.5 million per mile...$6,500,000,000 all told (the fence is far cheaper per mile)

    the Congress will authorize financing that will ultimately be recovered by higher visa fees for Mexican entering the US and from seizing bank transfers from the US to Mexico made by illegal aliens...that is part of Trumps plan to have Mexico pay

    lots of folks say that walls don't work...but defenders point to the western wall in Israel to protect Jerusalem as being an example of an effective one

    thoughts?
    note that although it costs 6.5m per mile to build, no one has broached the topic of what it will cost to maintain it, or that anyone with a fucking ladder can get over it unless every inch of it is staffed.

    regardless.. about 700k mexicans legally cross the border every year. if you tax each one an extra $5, thats a total profit of $3.5m a year....

    so ok cool we should get that wall paid off in about 1,857 years.

    lets say 1500 years if we somehow find the legal grounds to steal money from illegal aliens.

    Of course the problem with that is average illegal immigrant costs taxpayers 8-10,000 annually depending on the study. We spend roughly 80-115 Billion annually providing programs to illegal immigrants.

    So the wall could pay for itself pretty quickly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LegallyNonBindingPosts View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Gordman View Post
    Ok, lets take a hiatus, shake hands, have a drink because im already drinking, and fucker right in the pussy!



    And someone explain to me why Shooz's brother is in this thread. Don't tell me thats OSA, unless Shooz and OSA are related.


    And what happened to Shooz anyway??
    The times Shooz flew over from England 2 friends came along. One of those 2 worked for an airline, so they all flew cheap. On his last known trip here Shooz mentioned that the situation was going to change and he didn't know if he would be flying to vegas again anytime soon. Shooz became less active and after a while when he did post a few peeps relentlessly trolled him. Shortly after he said fuck it and stopped posting.


    Not sure if the reception he got here has anything to do with him giving this place a miss. But I know he runs a more hectic life these days.

    Works a job helping people less fortunate and I know he finds that hugely rewarding.

    Also got himself a bird who is waayyy above his batting average. They've actually bought a really nice house and set up home together.

    The cunt somehow managed to get an engagement ring on her finger too and is sealing the deal this summer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DirtyB View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Gordman View Post

    Now i certainly dont know all of the rules, but i think you are referring to federal disaster relief/funding etc.

    Its a tweet, not a 27 page executive order. You're making silly assumptions, no different than the right wingers who claimed that Obama was going to declare martial law to stay in office, or some of the other stupid shit spewed.
    I think you've been watching too many war movies or something (The Seige??). Plenty of other things the president can implement before ML. In any case, the mayor is obviously not doing his job and losing control. Something needs to be done. Chicago is the hub for drugs and gang activity coming in from Mexico, and is affecting many other areas in the midwest because of it. shit isn't getting any better. Dont be mad because he is energetic and ambitious to solve problems like this.


    But yeah...
    That awkward moment when the current president is prepared to fix the previous presidents crumbling hometown.
    No. I'm talking about federal assistance of all kinds, from disaster relief, to pollution cleanup, to sewers, to parks, and law enforcement. The Federal government creates programs, city, county and state governments apply to those programs, and are then granted assistance. For constitutional reasons, the initiative has to come from the state.

    The fact that it's a tweet is ridiculous. The 140 character limit is perfect for people who have a short attention span and don't like getting into details. It's fucking insane for a President to make serious policy statements with it, because we can't possibly know what he actually means. Apparently the tweet went out 5 minutes after Bill OReily had a segment on the violence in Chicago. Instead of yelling at the TV like other 70 year old men, Trump threatens unconstitutional federal actions.

    Plenty of other things the president can implement before ML.
    Like what?

    He could send 500 FBI agents into Chicago, but they don't have any jurisdiction over the crimes he's talking about. I don't think Trump actually knows the difference between state and federal crimes.
    Apparently the local police in my hood are confused as well.

    Justin George Retweeted The Baltimore Sun
    26 killed in the first 25 days, & police say they need help from the community, prosecutors, other agencies &, if offered, extra fed agents.

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    I also just watched a quote from Rahmbo saying he would welcome fed assistance.

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    Those saying Chicago can't be cleaned up by a better police presence should recall that the same used to be said about Times Square.

    Compare Times Square of the 1980s to now. It's a staggering difference.

    I realize that's a much smaller area than the bad neighborhoods of Chicago, but the same concept applies.

    I feel that liberals throw up their hands and give up too easily on cleaning up dangerous neighborhoods, assuming that it's a complex social problem which cannot be changed without massive social reforms and decades for them to take effect.

    In reality, a lot of violent crime occurs because the opportunity is there, and because a relatively small percentage of bad apples are influencing those who could go either way between good citizen and criminal.

    Increase police presence in these areas, dial down the tolerance for any crime, and lock up the worst and repeat offenders for longer. It's amazing how quickly things will suddenly fall into line.

    The fact is that most people in poor neighborhoods are law-abiding and just want to live in peace.

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    Ever since the beginning of the war on police by Obama and friends (known as "The Ferguson Effect"), crime has spiked up in major US cities, with the trend continuing that way. This was after 23 straight years of decreased crime.

    Trump is correct to want to take action.

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    Trump having his cabinet look over scientific facts before they are allowed to be released just in case real facts do not agree with his alternative facts is one of the sickest things I can think of.... why does a banker, or a lawyer have the final say on what scientific research is allowed to be released.... that's like asking my plumber to review my blood work and giving them the final say as to whether I get to see the results. After I already paid for the results.

    "Turns out the results say his blood sugar is high, but if he cuts down on sugar that will impact the sugar industry and we're pro sugar, so best we just keep it to ourselves..... only 99.7% of doctors say high blood sugar is bad for you anyway"
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    Quote Originally Posted by El Gallo View Post
    Trump having his cabinet look over scientific facts before they are allowed to be released just in case real facts do not agree with his alternative facts is one of the sickest things I can think of.... why does a banker, or a lawyer have the final say on what scientific research is allowed to be released.... that's like asking my plumber to review my blood work and giving them the final say as to whether I get to see the results. After I already paid for the results.

    "Turns out the results say his blood sugar is high, but if he cuts down on sugar that will impact the sugar industry and we're pro sugar, so best we just keep it to ourselves..... only 99.7% of doctors say high blood sugar is bad for you anyway"



    It's hardly surprising Trump is trying to suppress factual scientific data exposing how much trouble our planet is in considering his whole campaign was based on creating jobs which will result in high levels of CO2 getting spewed into our already sick atmosphere.


    America has taken this planet to another level with its space exploration and contribution to the field of science. Yet no other country has contributed more to the actual downfall of our planet.


    Trump supporters and the inbreds throughout the rustbelt couldn't give a single fuck if in 500 years time our Pale Blue Dot was nothing but a lifeless, orbiting hellhole.


    Fuck you Christopher Columbus.

     
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    HBO 60 Minute Sports (with that pompous meatball Bryant Gumball) did a piece this week called "Hoopers Pass"

    Trailer:
    http://www.hbo.com/real-sports-with-...?autoplay=true

    It was a follow up to "Hoop Dreams" the documenty that followed two kids from the high school Isiah Thomas went to. Took 8 years to film. (Think "Boyhood" except it was interesting).

    Loved the movie.

    Looking back it seems the Chicago gangs gave the athletes a pass and I guess cash for shoes & gear too.

    The only problem in Chicago is the old school housing projects got demolished and the gangs were scattered. The Capos were separated from the soldiers. Discipline and the code of honor were lost.

    The old ways were best. An American trajedy that can be blamed on HUD.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of the Fraud View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by El Gallo View Post
    Trump having his cabinet look over scientific facts before they are allowed to be released just in case real facts do not agree with his alternative facts is one of the sickest things I can think of.... why does a banker, or a lawyer have the final say on what scientific research is allowed to be released.... that's like asking my plumber to review my blood work and giving them the final say as to whether I get to see the results. After I already paid for the results.

    "Turns out the results say his blood sugar is high, but if he cuts down on sugar that will impact the sugar industry and we're pro sugar, so best we just keep it to ourselves..... only 99.7% of doctors say high blood sugar is bad for you anyway"



    It's hardly surprising Trump is trying to suppress factual scientific data exposing how much trouble our planet is in considering his whole campaign was based on creating jobs which will result in high levels of CO2 getting spewed into our already sick atmosphere.


    America has taken this planet to another level with its space exploration and contribution to the field of science. Yet no other country has contributed more to the actual downfall of our planet.


    Trump supporters and the inbreds throughout the rustbelt couldn't give a single fuck if in 500 years time our Pale Blue Dot was nothing but a lifeless, orbiting hellhole.


    Fuck you Christopher Columbus.

    LOL sick tilt

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of the Fraud View Post

    Fuck you Christopher Columbus.
    Trump has harnessed the compelling American myth of being a "chosen people."

    A prophet come to save us before the apocalypse. Most prophets meet an untimely end.

    Mexico's president cancels meeting with Trump.

    Report: All Senior State Dept. Management Officials Resign

    Game is on
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    LOL @ Mexico's president cancelling Tuesdays meeting

    fucking idiot Mexicans

    Yea that was a brilliant decision from a world 'leader' with basically zero political leverage

    The wall just got 10 feet taller

    fuck Mexico lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyde View Post
    LOL @ Mexico's president cancelling Tuesdays meeting

    fucking idiot Mexicans

    Yea that was a brilliant decision from a world 'leader' with basically zero political leverage

    The wall just got 10 feet taller

    fuck Mexico lol
    The best part was that Trump suggested that Mexico cancel. The Mexican president knew he would be crucified by his people if he took the meeting. So he folded.

    Most meetings are WOT.

    There is a story in the new Michael Lewis book about the genius lead character, Tversky, that I have committed to incorporating into my life.

    Tverky's advice for anyone looking to get out of doing anything they didn't want to do is simple: It could be "a board meeting or a TV show," Lewis explains. "He said, 'Don't worry about making up an excuse for not being there. Just get up and start walking, and it's amazing how quickly your mind will formulate the words as to why you have to leave.'"

    Jacked up on way too much caffeine ... have a good day guys

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    Tyde and his crew are blowing up my inbox.
    Post some more uncomfortable truths
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    I'm busy but I'll give you a good one.

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