Time to get on the TRUMP train

[sonatine]

i read a couple of skeptical views online suggesting that trump's only giving hillary/obama a false sense of security, so that obama doesn't feel that he has to pardon her, which i wouldn't completely rule out.

more likely, in my opinion, is that two messages have been conveyed to him: first, if he hopes to get any real legislation passed (for which he will need democratic support), he needs to give up the idea of prosecuting hillary. second, there's a reason that the victors never ever consider prosecuting the losers. once you go down that road, it won't be long before the next president is investigating you. probably a game he doesn't want to start playing.

sorry, pardon her for what exactly?

and now, before you respond, find me a case where someone went to jail over it.

ever.

[sonatine]

Here:


https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/1924


That's pretty much as far as this is going to go, and given she was a standing secretary of state and this is a first offense with no indications of intent to negatively impact the welfare and security of the republic, shes getting a fine and probation 100 times out of 100.

Oh and this case will likely run into the low 7 figures because ... lol... all the attorneys handling the prosecution will have to possess TS clearance in good standing.

After which, she may well have grounds to sue Trump for slander/defamation.

[sonatine]

Lets put this in even more perspective:

Oliver North sold weapons to Iran, and even traded weapons for cocaine with Nicaraguan cartels, and he got a suspended sentence and 150k fine.



So please, can we stop pretending like Hillary is getting the Martha Stewart suite any time this life?

[hongkonger]

Better than paying Israel $10.5 million every single day for the next decade. They got healthcare for all citizens but we can't afford it.

Since we fund much of their defense we should make sure to at least hear the other side of the story.

The U.S. relationship to Israel won't change. Trump has surrounded himself with military advisors and owes a great deal to evangelical Christian voters.

[hongkonger]

lol now trump's saying that man plays a part in climate change. quite the shift from pre-election talk

http://www.politico.com/blogs/donald...-change-231751

“I think there is some connectivity” between human activity and climate change, Trump said in the meeting according to New York Times reporter Maggie Haberman, who was present at the meeting.

Trump has previously aligned himself more closely with those who deny human contributions to climate change, telling The Washington Post in March: “I am not a great believer in man-made climate change. I’m not a great believer.”

first letting hillary off the hook, now man made climate change? since trump's a narcissist and will ultimately just want to be loved by the press, get ready for a whoooooole lot of this

Trump is drawing heavily from the military for his cabinet and advisors. The military strongly believes in man made climate change and sees it as the single greatest source of future geopolitical instability, which to their credit is the truth. If Trump is smart he will shift course from seeing it as a hoax perpetrated by China (which he already is) and start using climate change as a good tool for gaining an advantage over them.

[Mintjewlips]

Man made climate change is the equivalent to me pissing in the rain.

The majority of climate change models don't factor in the fact that there are possibly thousands if not tens of thousands of submarine volcanoes.

Core samples can be misleading.

For example, core samples don't tell you if there was a massive amount of submarine pulse eruptions that contributed to climate change.

These eruptions can eject a massive amounts of pollution that traps heat in our atmosphere and has a major role in temperature change.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencete...e-thought.html

Are underwater volcanoes causing global warming? Oceanic eruptions may have a greater effect on climate than first thought

Volcanoes lurking hidden under the world's oceans may play a far greater role in climate change than previously thought, according to a new study.

Scientists have found that underwater volcanoes, which were long assumed to ooze lava at relatively steady rates, in fact erupt in pulses.

A new study has shown that these submarine eruptions follow regular cycles that can range from just a couple of weeks to 100,000 years.

One of the most intriguing findings by the new study of underwater volcanic eruptions is that they appear to follow a seasonal pattern.

Data collected by Dr Maya Tolstoy from Columbia University showed that almost all undersea eruptions recorded in the past 25 years occur in the first six months of the year.

This may be because January is the month when the Earth is closest to the sun and July is when it is at it's farthest, creating slight squeezing and unsqueezing as it moves.

This may be similar to the effect that Dr Tolstoy detected on longer timescales as the shape of the Earth's orbit changes.

There may also be some affect caused by changes in sea level as water trapped in the ice around the Arctic and then melts.

Dr Tolstoy said: 'If you look at the present-day eruptions, volcanoes respond even to much smaller forces than the ones that might drive climate.'

Surprisingly the researchers also found that these eruptions also appear to be clustered during the first six months of each year.

The findings may now mean that models predicting how human activity will change the climate will need to be adjusted.

Volcanic eruptions are known to throw huge amounts of gas into the atmosphere, including carbon dioxide that are thought to increase global warming.

However, volcanoes also release aerosol gases that are now known to reduce global warming by creating a reflective barrier against the sun.

Dr Maya Tolstoy, a marine geophysicist at the Lamond-Doherty Earth Observatory at Columbia University, said: 'People have ignored seafloor volcanoes on the idea that their influence is small, but that’s because they are assumed to be in a steady state, which they’re not.

'They respond to both very large forces, and to very small ones, and that tells us that we need to look at them much more closely.'

Underwater volcanoes are known to be widespread on the floor of the world's oceans at joins in the tectonic plates.

Most are located in the deep ocean, where their activity can be difficult to measure, although some in shallow water can erupt with enough lava to create new islands. Others erupt with explosive results.

In 2009 huge plumes of smoke rose from the sea about 34 miles off the coast of Tonga's capital Nuku'alofa when a volcano there erupted.

Underwater volcanoes, however, are known to behave much differently from those on the land.

The presence of water quickly cools the emerging lava to create volcanic glass and pillow like structures.

In the deep ocean, the high pressures there mean the surrounding water do not boil and instead forms supercritical fluids.

In some cases hydrothermal vents that spew clouds of sulphur and soot under water appear, known as black smokers.

The new research by Dr Tolstoy, which is published in the journal Geophysical Research Letters, found that the undersea volcanoes, which mainly appear along the growing edges of the tectonic plates beneath the ocean, are currently in a relatively weak phase.

She believes that despite this they may produce maybe eight times more lava than volcanoes on land but similar levels of carbon dioxide - about 88 million metric tons a year.

However, she warns that as the cycle of undersea eruptions change, this could mean more of this gas being produced.

Dr Tolstoy and her colleagues monitored 10 submarine eruptions using seismic instruments placed on the sea floor.

They also used underwater mapping to produce high-resolution maps providing evidence of past lava flows and analysed seismic data from the ocean ridges in the Pacific, Atlantic and Arctic oceans.

She found that during the coldest periods when ice ages occur, undersea volcanism seems to surge, producing visible bands of hills.

A majority of experts agree that massive pulse submarine eruptions can severely affect our climate change more then any human output of co2.

Of course submarine eruptions are just one factor to consider among many.

My point is, yes we should do everything to clean up our environment, but to blaming humans for the change in our global temperature is like a rape victim blaming herself for being raped.

[sonatine]

debating cause is an inappropriate response to addressing an extinction event.

any stance/perspective that undermines an orchestrated effort to remediate/reverse global warming is morally criminal.

im not even going to bother with analogies because really its that bad.

[GambleBotsSatire]

My point is, yes we should do everything to clean up our environment, but to blaming humans for the change in our global temperature is like a rape victim blaming herself for being raped.

prettty prettty sure they should be blaming themselves, i mean nobody made them smoke reefer cigarettes with blacks

[sonatine]

http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2016/...tion-plan.html


set aside the leftist hysteria and paranoia, focus on the details as described, and consider carefully whether or not you want to remain in urban areas when this shit gets injected into the nations mainline.

[Mintjewlips]

Extinction event?

What a dramatic little bitch.

An extinction event is when sonatines bowels finally move after weeks of constipation, and his toilet explodes.

[sonatine]

Extinction event?

What a dramatic little bitch.

An extinction event is when sonatines bowels finally move after weeks of constipation, and his toilet explodes.

i dont know man, its kinda not funny.

i mean go in on me being fat because hey why not but are you actually not aware of whats going on regarding this planet's ecosystem rapidly failing?

[Mintjewlips]

They can't all be gems.

[Mintjewlips]

Get ready for cheaper gas, cheaper electricity, an explosion of high paying entry level jobs, and the continuous bitching by the democrats as their base is reduced to only people that care about the 70+ gender neutral constructs.

DEAL WITH IT FAGGOTS

[FPS_Russia]

This day's coming or is it already here?

[blake]

Get ready for cheaper gas, cheaper electricity, an explosion of high paying entry level jobs, and the continuous bitching by the democrats as their base is reduced to only people that care about the 70+ gender neutral constructs.

DEAL WITH IT FAGGOTS

bro it's becoming more likely that the republicans will do more bitching about trump than the democrats. now trump's talking about nominating democrat (and hillary supporter) harold ford jr. to a cabinet level position http://www.politico.com/blogs/donald...t-trump-231776

also people leaving trump's meeting between him and the NYTimes said that Trump believes “having a good relationship with us [the NYTimes] would make governing easier to him.” http://www.mediaite.com/tv/ny-times-...nship-with-us/

in the end, we really have no idea how this guy will govern, but we do know that this guy suffers from extreme narcissism and desperately wants everyone to love him. i would be surprised if he didn't suck up to the press completely, and the easiest way to do that is to take extremely liberal positions.

[Gordman]

You losers dont get it.

This global warming shit is not that hard to figure out. This chick had it figured out easy.

[sonatine]

Get ready for cheaper gas, cheaper electricity, an explosion of high paying entry level jobs, and the continuous bitching by the democrats as their base is reduced to only people that care about the 70+ gender neutral constructs.

DEAL WITH IT FAGGOTS

bro it's becoming more likely that the republicans will do more bitching about trump than the democrats. now trump's talking about nominating democrat (and hillary supporter) harold ford jr. to a cabinet level position http://www.politico.com/blogs/donald...t-trump-231776

also people leaving trump's meeting between him and the NYTimes said that Trump believes “having a good relationship with us [the NYTimes] would make governing easier to him.” http://www.mediaite.com/tv/ny-times-...nship-with-us/

in the end, we really have no idea how this guy will govern, but we do know that this guy suffers from extreme narcissism and desperately wants everyone to love him. i would be surprised if he didn't suck up to the press completely, and the easiest way to do that is to take extremely liberal positions.

if he takes a conservative approach to business/trade/finances and leans into giving a fuck about (ostensibly) traditional liberal themes like the environment and pan-national bridge building while somehow diverting profit to the middle class, he could actually be the greatest president in american history.

 

obviously the republicans will impeach him at the first whiff of any of that and he will probably end up in a jail cell watching the exact opposite of everything i just described get rolled out on a carpet made of bibles

[Sloppy Joe]

Apologies if posted elsewhere.

[Mintjewlips]

bro it's becoming more likely that the republicans will do more bitching about trump than the democrats. now trump's talking about nominating democrat (and hillary supporter) harold ford jr. to a cabinet level position http://www.politico.com/blogs/donald...t-trump-231776

also people leaving trump's meeting between him and the NYTimes said that Trump believes “having a good relationship with us [the NYTimes] would make governing easier to him.” http://www.mediaite.com/tv/ny-times-...nship-with-us/

in the end, we really have no idea how this guy will govern, but we do know that this guy suffers from extreme narcissism and desperately wants everyone to love him. i would be surprised if he didn't suck up to the press completely, and the easiest way to do that is to take extremely liberal positions.

if he takes a conservative approach to business/trade/finances and leans into giving a fuck about (ostensibly) traditional liberal themes like the environment and pan-national bridge building while somehow diverting profit to the middle class, he could actually be the greatest president in american history.

 

obviously the republicans will impeach him at the first whiff of any of that and he will probably end up in a jail cell watching the exact opposite of everything i just described get rolled out on a carpet made of bibles

Again, you idiots don't get it.

Trump is not a republican, the people that voted for him knew he wasn't a republican. The Republican establishment knew he wasn't a republican. They voted for Trump, who just happened to be running as a Republican.

And again, if you believe Donald Trump is getting impeached you also believe bitcoins are donkdown.

[blake]

sorry, pardon her for what exactly?

and now, before you respond, find me a case where someone went to jail over it.

ever.

i had this whole long response on this prepared, found relevant citations... but it just seems pointless to rehash.

i don't think prosecuting (or even investigating) hillary would be a good idea, so i don't even want to play devil's advocate, and make it seem like i think otherwise. doing so would alienate half the country and make it difficult to have a working government. i like trump's approach on this, if he's serious