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    Please let Woodley fight Conor #freemoney

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    Gastulum coudlnt make weight again so we dont get Cowboy calling out Conor and honestly first Trump and now this wow
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    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
    Gastulum coudlnt make weight again so we dont get Cowboy calling out Conor and honestly first Trump and now this wow
    Yeah, I was just looking at the results & I was like, WTF, Miller missed weight too before realizing he did it on purpose so his fight with Alves wouldn't be scrapped like this fight was. I'm pretty sure Cowboy would have done the same if he knew Gastelum's weight wasn't on point.
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    I'd say good luck in the freeroll but I'm pretty sure you'll go on a bender to self-sabotage yourself & miss it completely or use it as the excuse of why you didn't cash.

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    why is so much money going on eddie, eddie sucks.
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    the only reason hes here is because he smothered pettis and gilbert to split decisions and because he trashed a freshly unroided RDA.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
    why is so much money going on eddie, eddie sucks.
    Eddie can be hit. I think Connor has a decent chance here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hockey Guy
    I'd say good luck in the freeroll but I'm pretty sure you'll go on a bender to self-sabotage yourself & miss it completely or use it as the excuse of why you didn't cash.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hockey Guy View Post
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    why is so much money going on eddie, eddie sucks.
    Eddie can be hit. I think Connor has a decent chance here.

    i think his chances are well beyond decent. i dont understand why he isnt in the -360 range.

    as deeply as i loathe conor, he has proven to be exceedingly bankable. i think he catches eddie in the body and finishes the job in the first in like 2 out of 3 fights, conservatively.

    but every time i say that in response to a line i dont understand, the guy im jocking shows up with one leg or some sort of adult onset palsy and i go broke.
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    i made some lolparlays with eddie winning just to be safe. im officially spooked.
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    All I'm reading is $$ in on McGreggor and the lines going the other way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
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    Eddie can be hit. I think Connor has a decent chance here.

    i think his chances are well beyond decent. i dont understand why he isnt in the -360 range.

    as deeply as i loathe conor, he has proven to be exceedingly bankable. i think he catches eddie in the body and finishes the job in the first in like 2 out of 3 fights, conservatively.

    but every time i say that in response to a line i dont understand, the guy im jocking shows up with one leg or some sort of adult onset palsy and i go broke.
    All I know is that I thought it was 50/50 for Connor in the Aldo fight & I like his chances better in this one. Now that I've said Eddie can be hit I fully expect him to wrestle-fuck him to death.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hockey Guy
    I'd say good luck in the freeroll but I'm pretty sure you'll go on a bender to self-sabotage yourself & miss it completely or use it as the excuse of why you didn't cash.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daly View Post
    All I'm reading is $$ in on McGreggor and the lines going the other way.

    Exactly, he was -155 last night, now hes -135, and Im freaking out and hedging a bit.
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    if Conor falls to -125 I have to bet him #meh

    Also taking Woodley not b/c I think he can win, but because of the price. I have paid rent on backing the truck up on Wonderboy for all seven fights on his run, but him at -200 is just crazy vs a top of the line wrestler like Woodley. Also like that fight to go to decision.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
    why is so much money going on eddie, eddie sucks.
    a) the late "bet against Conor" push which has happened since he's become public. The Aldo late push at 194 was insane; I've never seen that in combat sports betting before and only a few times in football/baseball like when an important player was expected to play and suddenly he can't 30 min before gametime or something. It's why 1/3rds of the people I talk to about that fight thinks Aldo took a dive lol

    b) People figure: "What beats Conor? Wrestling and BJJ! Nate choked him out!". But the issue is, and Chael Sonnen has said this: Eddie's actually never really used his wrestling in his fights as a primary weapon. He's never done in his MMA career what Chael did for 5* rounds vs Anderson Silva: take the striker down and punch his face all night (*well for 4.5 rounds until Chael tapped, but you know what I mean).

    Eddie in his career always got back to why he's the "Underground King": brawling and Thai clinch. It's the Philly in him; he can't help himself. And that plays into Conor's hands as he's the taller fighter with longer reach and can pick his shots against an aggressively striking Eddie. UNLESS Eddie decides to "Jon Fitch" the fight. And I don't think he will do that, and it probably costs him because as big of an edge Conor has on Eddie's striking, it's way more when it comes to Eddie's wrestling, IMO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shizzmoney View Post
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    why is so much money going on eddie, eddie sucks.
    a) the late "bet against Conor" push which has happened since he's become public. The Aldo late push at 194 was insane; I've never seen that in combat sports betting before and only a few times in football/baseball like when an important player was expected to play and suddenly he can't 30 min before gametime or something. It's why 1/3rds of the people I talk to about that fight thinks Aldo took a dive lol

    b) People figure: "What beats Conor? Wrestling and BJJ! Nate choked him out!". But the issue is, and Chael Sonnen has said this: Eddie's actually never really used his wrestling in his fights as a primary weapon. He's never done in his MMA career what Chael did for 5* rounds vs Anderson Silva: take the striker down and punch his face all night (*well for 4.5 rounds until Chael tapped, but you know what I mean).

    Eddie in his career always got back to why he's the "Underground King": brawling and Thai clinch. It's the Philly in him; he can't help himself. And that plays into Conor's hands as he's the taller fighter with longer reach and can pick his shots against an aggressively striking Eddie. UNLESS Eddie decides to "Jon Fitch" the fight. And I don't think he will do that, and it probably costs him because as big of an edge Conor has on Eddie's striking, it's way more when it comes to Eddie's wrestling, IMO.


    this is a really good post.
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    LOL

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    I never watched a weigh-in before and got as excited as I did today even tho nothing really crazy happens. The 200 card was decent on paper but a let down when it happened so lets hope this one delivers.



    It was a good play by Rousey who is there at the end to walk off before they ask to speak to her.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shizzmoney View Post
    b) People figure: "What beats Conor? Wrestling and BJJ! Nate choked him out!". But the issue is, and Chael Sonnen has said this: Eddie's actually never really used his wrestling in his fights as a primary weapon. He's never done in his MMA career what Chael did for 5* rounds vs Anderson Silva: take the striker down and punch his face all night (*well for 4.5 rounds until Chael tapped, but you know what I mean).

    Eddie in his career always got back to why he's the "Underground King": brawling and Thai clinch. It's the Philly in him; he can't help himself. And that plays into Conor's hands as he's the taller fighter with longer reach and can pick his shots against an aggressively striking Eddie. UNLESS Eddie decides to "Jon Fitch" the fight. And I don't think he will do that, and it probably costs him because as big of an edge Conor has on Eddie's striking, it's way more when it comes to Eddie's wrestling, IMO.
    Eddie's Pettis fight gameplan was entirely based on his wrestling advantage, no? That's why everyone got pissed, because all he was doing was taking him down or grinding him into the fence. There's no reason NOT to think he won't try to Jon Fitch this, because he's already shown us he'll try to do it against a very dangerous striker if he thinks he has the clear advantage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crowe Diddly View Post
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    b) People figure: "What beats Conor? Wrestling and BJJ! Nate choked him out!". But the issue is, and Chael Sonnen has said this: Eddie's actually never really used his wrestling in his fights as a primary weapon. He's never done in his MMA career what Chael did for 5* rounds vs Anderson Silva: take the striker down and punch his face all night (*well for 4.5 rounds until Chael tapped, but you know what I mean).

    Eddie in his career always got back to why he's the "Underground King": brawling and Thai clinch. It's the Philly in him; he can't help himself. And that plays into Conor's hands as he's the taller fighter with longer reach and can pick his shots against an aggressively striking Eddie. UNLESS Eddie decides to "Jon Fitch" the fight. And I don't think he will do that, and it probably costs him because as big of an edge Conor has on Eddie's striking, it's way more when it comes to Eddie's wrestling, IMO.
    Eddie's Pettis fight gameplan was entirely based on his wrestling advantage, no? That's why everyone got pissed, because all he was doing was taking him down or grinding him into the fence. There's no reason NOT to think he won't try to Jon Fitch this, because he's already shown us he'll try to do it against a very dangerous striker if he thinks he has the clear advantage.

    I feel like Conor's strength, accuracy, and speed is going to be light years beyond what Pettis has shown us for a long time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
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    All I'm reading is $$ in on McGreggor and the lines going the other way.

    Exactly, he was -155 last night, now hes -135, and Im freaking out and hedging a bit.
    I think that's a wise move honestly. Vegas is inviting action on a fighter that doesn't need public support. The fact that they are comfortable with that exposure is very very telling.

    My money is on Eddie. I'm siding with the sportsbooks on this one.

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