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    Here is Nate's latest Nowcast and the Trump surge is happening.

    http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/...id=rrpromo#now

    Just need a couple more days of Wikileaks and my guess is the rustbelt falls to Trump, and falls BIG TIME.

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    Rogan, Gavin Mcinnes, Shane Smith and hear from Soros himself. interesting...

    Shane Smith and Vice are they trying to lie us in to war w Russia? Seems like it.

    Fuck, we do have state run media outlets and they name them. Vice is prob one of them with the help of Soros. You have to go to Vimeo to find this shit. Holy shit, the stuff about Soros appears to be true.
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    It does sort of feel at this point if the Clinton Firewall fails, the whole thing will go up in flames (not just one or two states) and Trump would get over 300+ Electoral votes.

    That said I am still leaning towards a very narrow Clinton victory with Trump winning Florida, Ohio, North Carolina, Iowa.

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    Quote Originally Posted by abrown83 View Post
    It does sort of feel at this point if the Clinton Firewall fails, the whole thing will go up in flames (not just one or two states) and Trump would get over 300+ Electoral votes.

    That said I am still leaning towards a very narrow Clinton victory with Trump winning Florida, Ohio, North Carolina, Iowa.
    This is just a hunch on my part, but if Trump wins all those states, I think he routs Clinton. The averages are collapsing in the rustbelt. Clinton is spending 30M this weekend in the rustbelt and in Colorado. In Colorado, she has not spent money in months. And the optics are just terrible for Clinton. She is on the defensive, Trump looks calm and having fun. Even Obama looks uncomfortable. You get a sense of a tidal shift happening.

    If Wikileaks is damaging the next couple days, the dam could break. Today was flat out awful for Clinton with regards to that.

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    Careful though, cherry picking polls is not wise. All these polls have bias in them, and there are polls that show Clinton ahead in NC. The only site that strips out the bias is 538 and just looks at raw data. If Trump gets to 40% on 538, its a coin flip. Will be interesting. Nate blew it in the Republican primary, but he was spot on in the general in 2008 and 2012.

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    These are the kind of rabid theocracy-loving voters that may end up putting Trump over the top.

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    Were Republicans cowardly or unethical not to go along with [convicting Trump in the second impeachment Senate trial]? No. The smart move was to reject it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MumblesBadly View Post
    These are the kind of rabid theocracy-loving voters that may end up putting Trump over the top.

    Whatever it takes, right?
    Clinton voters don't care what they are really voting for, so why should Trump voters really care what they are voting for.

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    At this point, late in the game, I am now hoping for Trump to win. Especially since any third party candidate fucked their chances up.

    If he will repeal Obummercare right away, that will be a great first step. Its a fucking disaster.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gordman View Post
    At this point, late in the game, I am now hoping for Trump to win.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MumblesBadly View Post
    These are the kind of rabid theocracy-loving voters that may end up putting Trump over the top.

    https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/3599
    “And as I've mentioned, we've all been quite content to demean government, drop civics and in general conspire to produce an unaware and compliant citizenry. The unawareness remains strong but compliance is obviously fading rapidly. This problem demands some serious, serious thinking - and not just poll driven, demographically-inspired messaging.”

    Mumbles I wouldn't be talking.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blake View Post
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    I guess ive just been boiling over at what that woman is actually getting away with, and to think she could actually win her ill gotten seat in the oval office. I just can't take it anymore. There is so much shit coming out about her every day, even the staunch democrats cant hide it anymore...even anonymous players in the FBI dont want to hide it anymore...even previous secret service agents don't want to hold back anymore. The writing is on the wall...she can only cover up so much.

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    Think of me what you want, but that is really the way I feel at this juncture. Im not going to put on a facade and pretend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DirtyB View Post
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    A: The goal (of Soros, since I assume that is what you are asking) is to create a global government where all people intermingle and breed and become one people ruled by a radically pure Jewish race. They sincerely believe under their rule all human conflict will cease because there will be no more cause for division. This desire is born out of a fear of the horrors of WWII. The Holocaust is a lie, but the death toll was still massive nonetheless. And many people were brutalized by it.
    If it wasn't so scary, it would be amusing that the alt-right uses George Soros as their Jew Boogeyman. He's actually an atheist.
    To be fair, if I handed over my own parents as a young man to be executed I would hope there was no higher power too. He also is on record on saying those times were the "best years of his life"



    You can not defend this man, whatever religion, values, or virtues you follow in my opinion. He sold his soul.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gordman View Post
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    I guess ive just been boiling over at what that woman is actually getting away with, and to think she could actually win her ill gotten seat in the oval office. I just can't take it anymore. There is so much shit coming out about her every day, even the staunch democrats cant hide it anymore...even anonymous players in the FBI dont want to hide it anymore...even previous secret service agents don't want to hold back anymore. The writing is on the wall...she can only cover up so much.

    What I find amazing about the 'what Hillary gets away with" narrative is that everyone you talk to has a different idea of what she has 'gotten away with' and somehow, it always reflects their particular interests/concerns.
    "Birds born in a cage think flying is an illness." - Alejandro Jodorowsky

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    It's all worth a read but the best was saved for last. I understand bankruptcy is necessary when chances are taken in business. Not often you see the same individual involved in more than one or two however. (present company, big pooh dick, excluded)




    Legal matters

    Further information: Legal affairs of Donald Trump
    An analysis by USA Today, published in June 2016, found that over the previous three decades, Trump and his businesses had been involved in 3,500 legal cases in U.S. federal courts andstate courts, an unprecedented number for a U.S. presidential candidate.[635] Of the 3,500 suits, mostly in the casino industry, Trump or one of his companies was the plaintiff in 1,900; defendant in 1,450; and third party, filer of bankruptcy, or other in 150.[635] Trump was named in at least 169 suits in federal court.[636] Although litigation over contract disputes and other matters is common in the real estate industry,[637] USA Today's 2016 analysis found that Trump had been involved in legal disputes more than Edward J. DeBartolo Jr., Donald Bren,Stephen M. Ross, Sam Zell, and Larry Silverstein combined. In about 500 cases, judges dismissed plaintiffs' claims against Trump. In hundreds more, cases ended with the available public record unclear about the resolution.[635] Where there was a clear resolution, he has won 451 times, and lost 38, but in many cases "the public records available were unclear about the resolution".[638]
    Trump as plaintiff or defendant

    1980s

    In 1985, Trump was sued for allegedly trying to force out tenants to enable demolition.[639]The matter was settled and the demolition canceled.[640] In 1988, Trump paid $750,000 to settle the civil penalties in an antitrust lawsuit stemming from stock purchases.[641]
    1990s

    In 1991, a business analyst predicted that the Trump Taj Mahal would soon fail, and he then lost his job; the analyst sued Trump for allegedly having an unlawful role in the firing, and that matter was settled confidentially out of court.[642] After a helicopter crashed, killing three executives of his New Jersey hotel casino business, Trump sued the manufacturers,[643] and that case was dismissed.[644] Trump Plaza was fined $200,000 for moving African-American and female employees away from a racist and sexist gambler to accommodate him, but Trump was not evidently investigated, nor held personally liable, and said he would not even recognize that gambler.[645] In 1991, Trump's father, Fred Trump, made an unlawful loan to Trump's Castle to help it make a mortgage payment, and the casino was required to pay a $30,000 fine, but his son was not penalized.[646]
    In 1993, Trump sued his business partner Jay Pritzker for allegedly collecting excessive fees, and the matter was settled.[647][648][649] Boarding house owner Vera Coking sued for damage during construction of an adjacent casino, and later dropped the suit against Trump while settling with his contractor; she also prevailed against Trump and other developers in aneminent domain case.[650][651][652]
    In 1997, Donald Trump and rival Atlantic City casino owner Stephen Wynn engaged in an extended legal conflict during the planning phase of new casinos Wynn had proposed to build, and the cases were settled.[653][654][655]
    2000s

    In 2000, Trump was charged with lobbying for government rejection of proposed casinos that would compete with his casinos, and he paid $250,000 to settle resulting fines.[656][657] The charges related to a proposed Native American-run casino in the Catskills, New York, which would have competed with three of Trump's casinos in Atlantic City.[658]
    When the Securities and Exchange Commission charged one of his companies with poor financial reporting, Trump's attorney said the culprit had been dismissed, and that Trump had personally been unaware of the matter.[659][660][661] Following litigation with Leona Helmsleythat started in the 1990s regarding control of the Empire State Building,[662][663] Trump in 2002 sold his share in that building to rivals of Helmsley's.[664][665]
    In 2004 Trump sued former business partner Richard Fields for allegedly saying he still consulted for Trump. Fields counter-sued,[666][667][668][669] and the lawsuit was dismissed.[670]
    The town of Palm Beach, Florida, fined Trump for building an 80-foot (24-meter) pole for theAmerican flag at his Mar-a-Lago property. Trump then sued, and a settlement required him to donate $100,000 to veterans' charities, while the town agreed to let him enroll out-of-towners in his social club and permitted a 10-foot shorter flagpole elsewhere on his lawn.[671]
    When the California city of Rancho Palos Verdes thwarted luxury home development on a landslide-prone area owned by Trump, he sued,[672] and the city agreed to permit extensions for some 20 more proposed luxury homes.[673][674]
    Trump sued a law firm he had used, Morrison Cohen, for using his name, for providing news links at its website, and for charging excessive fees,[86] after which the firm halved the fees, and the court ruled that the links were allowable.[675]
    In 2009, Trump was sued by investors in the canceled Trump Ocean Resort Baja Mexico;[676]Trump said he had merely been a spokesperson,[676][677] and he settled the lawsuit for an undisclosed amount.[678]

    Trump International Hotel and Tower in Chicago

    In 2004, the Trump Organization licensed the Trump brand to a hotel and condo project in Fort Lauderdale scheduled to open in 2007,[166] but delays in construction and the bursting of the U.S. real estate bubble led Trump to withdraw his name from the deal in 2009,[166] after which the project defaulted, investors sued,[679] and Trump was caught in the ongoing lawsuits because he had participated in advertising.[166][680]
    Trump personally guaranteed $40 million to secure a $640 million loan for Trump International Hotel and Tower in Chicago. When Deutsche Bank tried to collect it, Trump sued the bank for harming the project and his reputation,[681] and the bank then agreed to extend the loan term by five years.[682]
    2010s

    In 2015, Trump's claim that the Scottish Government improperly approved a wind-farm project near his golf course and planned hotel was rejected by the Supreme Court of the United Kingdom, following a lengthy legal battle.[683]
    In July 2015, Trump sued the former Miss Pennsylvania, Sheena Monnin, after she alleged that the Miss USA 2012 pageant was rigged.[684] A federal judge upheld the settlement, obliging her to pay Trump $5 million.[684][685][686]
    Trump sued Palm Beach County, alleging that the county had pressured the FAA to direct air traffic over Trump's Mar-a-Lago club and estate.[687] He also sued chefs Geoffrey Zakarian andJosé Andrés; the latter said there was no merit in Trump's allegation that the chef backed out of a deal at the Old Post Office Pavilion.[688][689][690][691]
    Trump sued the town of Ossining, New York, over the property tax valuation on his golf coursethere,[692][693] after separately being sued for modifying a drainage system that allegedly damaged a library, public pool, and park facilities.[693]
    In connection with a Trump presidential campaign event at Trump Tower in New York City, five men sued Trump, whose security staff allegedly punched one of them.[694][695]
    Deborah Garcia, a restaurant worker at Trump SoHo in New York City, filed a lawsuit in 2015 claiming that Trump, his daughter Ivanka, and his son Donald Trump Jr. illegally withheld tipsfrom employees. The Trump Hotel said in a statement that Garcia never worked for it but rather for a third-party contractor.[696][needs update]
    In 2016 the Democrats sued Trump accusing him of voter intimidation because he called on his supporters to mount vigilante exercises outside polling stations. The Ohio Democratic Party wrote in a legal filing, "Trump has sought to advance his campaign's goal of 'voter suppression' by using the loudest microphone in the nation to implore his supporters to engage in unlawful intimidation," Other lawsuits uaed similar language.[697]
    Destruction of emails and records

    Main article: Donald Trump email controversy
    On October 31, 2016 Newsweek reported that "Over the course of decades, Donald Trump’s companies have systematically destroyed or hidden thousands of emails, digital records and paper documents demanded in official proceedings, often in defiance of court orders." According to the investigation by Newsweek this was done in order to obstruct and drag out legal proceedings and force individuals and organizations in disputes with Trump to spend a lot of money to obtain the relevant records. According to the report, the practice of hiding or destroying documents and filing false affidavits goes back to at least as early as 1973 and the alleged refusal of Trump's real estate companies to rent housing to African-Americans.[698][699][700][701]

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by DirtyB View Post
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    George soros does own part of a company that makes a lot of voting machines in swing states.
    No. He doesn't. You fucking retard.

    Soros has zero ownership of or involvement in Smartmatic. And even if he did, Smartmatic machines are not being used anywhere in the US next week.

    The reason you listen to people like Alex Jones is that on some level, you enjoy being lied to and manipulated. They simplify the complex and difficult reality that you're clearly not smart enough to deal with.
    http://www.lifezette.com/polizette/c...ting-machines/
    Rigged as fuck, anything close is Hillary's. There's a video in the link too. It's scrubbed from youtube.


    Concern is growing over revelations that voting machines in a significant number of states could be linked to a company tied directly to billionaire leftist George Soros and his personal quest to create a nationless, borderless global state.

    The U.K.-based Smartmatic company posted a flow-chart on its website that it had provided voting machines for 16 states, including important battleground states like Florida and Arizona. Smartmatic Chairman Mark Malloch-Brown is a former U.N. official and sits on the board of Soros’ Open Society Foundations. Since the story first broke, the flow-chart has disappeared from Smartmatic’s website, raising further questions about the real status of the Soros-tied voting equipment and whether it is truly being deployed in U.S. elections.

    If Malloch-Brown’s Soros ties weren’t troubling enough, he also has ties to the Clintons through his work at two consulting firms.
    According to a spokesperson for the National Association of Secretaries of State, Smartmatic is not on a list of federally certified providers for election systems and officials in several states’ have contested that their equipment came from Smartmatic. Why, then, had Smartmatic bragged about providing over 50,000 voting machines for U.S. elections?

    Leaked emails courtesy of WikiLeaks have shed further light on the deeply incestuous relationship between Soros and high-level Democratic Party players. The discovery that a man who may have provided voting equipment to 16 states is tied directly to the man who has given millions of dollars to the Clinton campaign and various progressive and globalist causes will surely leave a bad taste in many voters’ mouths.


    Another Clinton cover up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gordman View Post
    Think of me what you want, but that is really the way I feel at this juncture. Im not going to put on a facade and pretend.
    i think your facade game might need work cause you have like 184 posts in this thread bashing hillary and supporting trump.

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    i'm also waiting on pins and needles for dish to tell us which candidate he prefers

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    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
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    I guess ive just been boiling over at what that woman is actually getting away with, and to think she could actually win her ill gotten seat in the oval office. I just can't take it anymore. There is so much shit coming out about her every day, even the staunch democrats cant hide it anymore...even anonymous players in the FBI dont want to hide it anymore...even previous secret service agents don't want to hold back anymore. The writing is on the wall...she can only cover up so much.

    What I find amazing about the 'what Hillary gets away with" narrative is that everyone you talk to has a different idea of what she has 'gotten away with' and somehow, it always reflects their particular interests/concerns.
    Yes, the left usually says she's gotten away with nothing except for fading unjustified attacks by the right wing media.

     
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