Originally Posted by gimmick
So you're saying it's better to cheat on your wife than have your husband cheat on you and the forgive him? Or are we at the point where it's ok for Trump to cheat on his wives if he's not too rapey about it. I don't really know how low the bar is for Trump at this point.
forgive him? they have a business relationship. THESE PPL HAVE PUBLIC & PRIVATE POSITIONS, VERY SHADY STUFF FOLKS, DONT DO IT
Yea he's not too fond of Hillary, but he had his own talk show on Russia Today, keeps advising people to seek refuge in Russia, had his father visit Assad in Syria, there are no Russia leaks etc. At best at this point he's a voluntary puppet.my guess is assange is not a huge fan of putin either, but reaaaaally hates hillary, so he'll be happy to assist the russians if it means diminishing her. another possibility for the delayed timing is that assange (possibly based on what he read in the dnc emails, collusion, superdelegates, etc.), just didn't think there was any possible way that hillary wouldn't get the nomination, so he may as well save them for the general. even if that's the case, though, i think he botched the timing, as he should have released them pre-debate to give trump some talking points before record breaking audiences. at this point, a lot of early voting already happened.
Best stuff was collusion related in the emails. Rest has been mostly air and really requires concentrated effort to make in to something that can be called a scandal. Even if you give something golden to Trump you would still have to rely on him to not fuck it up and i doubt Russians have any faith in that. They are perfectly happy just undermining the entire political system. That's their bread and butter. Slinging dirt.
If you have really naive view of political campaigns them a lot of the emails could look bad, but in the real world a similar look to any successful campaign since the 80s would produce same stuff.
I think I figured out what's up with this war with Russia ww3 stuff. It didn't make sense that our ally Israel is in the Kremlin w Putin bragging of great cooperation between jets and we are about to go start ww3 w Russia blaming them for war crimes.
They're trying to shock us so they can impose something, maybe the three trade deals or maybe another war.
Fuckin right wingers are so fuckin evil. The bush's use this one. Milton Friedman's a pile of shit as well.
For a lil more profit they'll do this shit.
In THE SHOCK DOCTRINE, Naomi Klein explodes the myth that the global free market triumphed democratically. Exposing the thinking, the money trail and the puppet strings behind the world-changing crises and wars of the last four decades, The Shock Doctrine is the gripping story of how America’s “free market” policies have come to dominate the world-- through the exploitation of disaster-shocked people and countries.
At the most chaotic juncture in Iraq’s civil war, a new law is unveiled that would allow Shell and BP to claim the country’s vast oil reserves…. Immediately following September 11, the Bush Administration quietly out-sources the running of the “War on Terror” to Halliburton and Blackwater…. After a tsunami wipes out the coasts of Southeast Asia, the pristine beaches are auctioned off to tourist resorts.... New Orleans’s residents, scattered from Hurricane Katrina, discover that their public housing, hospitals and schools will never be reopened…. These events are examples of “the shock doctrine”: using the public’s disorientation following massive collective shocks – wars, terrorist attacks, or natural disasters -- to achieve control by imposing economic shock therapy. Sometimes, when the first two shocks don’t succeed in wiping out resistance, a third shock is employed: the electrode in the prison cell or the Taser gun on the streets.
Based on breakthrough historical research and four years of on-the-ground reporting in disaster zones, The Shock Doctrine vividly shows how disaster capitalism – the rapid-fire corporate reengineering of societies still reeling from shock – did not begin with September 11, 2001. The book traces its origins back fifty years, to the University of Chicago under Milton Friedman, which produced many of the leading neo-conservative and neo-liberal thinkers whose influence is still profound in Washington today. New, surprising connections are drawn between economic policy, “shock and awe” warfare and covert CIA-funded experiments in electroshock and sensory deprivation in the 1950s, research that helped write the torture manuals used today in Guantanamo Bay.
The Shock Doctrine follows the application of these ideas through our contemporary history, showing in riveting detail how well-known events of the recent past have been deliberate, active theatres for the shock doctrine, among them: Pinochet’s coup in Chile in 1973, the Falklands War in 1982, the Tiananmen Square Massacre in 1989, the collapse of the Soviet Union in 1991, the Asian Financial crisis in 1997 and Hurricane Mitch in 1998.
It's as if you didn't quite answer the question. Also this might be shocking but all smart people have public & private positions.
forgive him? they have a business relationship. THESE PPL HAVE PUBLIC & PRIVATE POSITIONS, VERY SHADY STUFF FOLKS, DONT DO IT
Canada wasn't hurt as much during the 2008 global financial crisis as US and other western country banks, as the banking culture there was much more conservative. So, Harper didn't have to deal with much of an economic crisis.
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interesting, did not know about some of those assange/russia links.Yea he's not too fond of Hillary, but he had his own talk show on Russia Today, keeps advising people to seek refuge in Russia, had his father visit Assad in Syria, there are no Russia leaks etc. At best at this point he's a voluntary puppet.
Best stuff was collusion related in the emails. Rest has been mostly air and really requires concentrated effort to make in to something that can be called a scandal. Even if you give something golden to Trump you would still have to rely on him to not fuck it up and i doubt Russians have any faith in that. They are perfectly happy just undermining the entire political system. That's their bread and butter. Slinging dirt.
If you have really naive view of political campaigns them a lot of the emails could look bad, but in the real world a similar look to any successful campaign since the 80s would produce same stuff.
to me, the most damning emails are the ones that came out recently related to the clinton foundation. i wouldn't say they reveal illegal conduct, but it just seems like bill is really, really sleezy. it looks like he used the clinton foundation charity as a means of generating massive fees for himself
the key emails/memos include one from a clinton aide to podesta, in which he seems to be defending himself from allegations that he is under a conflict of interest because he profits personally in connection with work he does for the clinton foundation. it looks like he is angry that he is being asked to be part of some new conflict of interest policy, when "wjc [William Jefferson Clinton] doesn’t as he is far more conflicted every single day in what he does? Why not apply the structure you set up for him to this situation?"
politico provides a little more detail on this:
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/1...ton-inc-230364The most eye-catching examples in the memo are of companies that paid Bill Clinton directly at the same time they were donors to the foundation.
“Laureate is a Foundation relationship that evolved into a personal advisory services business relationship for President Clinton. … Laureate pays President Clinton $3.5 million annually to provide advice and serve as their Honorary Chairman,” Band wrote. “Gems approached President Clinton in 2009 to seek his personal services as an advisor to the company. ... [Clinton aide Justin Cooper] and I convinced them to initiate a relationship to the Foundation, which they did; that relationship has grown into a business relationship for President Clinton and a donor relationship for CGI.”
“Neither Justin nor I are separately compensated for these activities (e.g. we do not receive a fee for, or percentage of, the more than $50 million in for-profit activity we have personally helped to secure for President Clinton to date or the $66 million in future contracts, should he choose to continue with those engagements),” Band wrote.
Band also says he was involved in soliciting and obtaining “as appropriate, in-kind services for the President and his family — for personal travel, hospitality, vacation and the like.”
Band's examples appear designed to drive home the point that if his outside business activities and those of others who worked with the foundation were being labeled as potential or actual conflicts of interest, the same could be said of Clinton himself, who had his hands in the foundation's work and also had personal business dealings with some of its donors
i think bernie could have had a field day with this type of stuff. maybe trump too, if he could stay on message, but probably not.
well idk why u even asked me the question, I actually kinda changed the subject off of bill's rapenessIt's as if you didn't quite answer the question. Also this might be shocking but all smart people have public & private positions.
and I prefer politicians not to lie as much as they can about everything while they are banking 225K bribes, obv u dont
"ya give me ur money and ill lie to the public & hook u up" u are ok with this
#DRAINTHESWAMP
“And just thinking to myself right now, we should just cancel the election and just give it to Trump, right? What are we even having it for? What are we having it for?”
-Trump today in Toledo
If Hillary had said anything remotely similar, people would lose their shit. But at this point, it's just completely acceptable for Trump to say insane things.
He's also making accusations of massive voter fraud in Texas, of all places. I think that deep down he really knows that he's going to lose. Until recently, he could convince himself that the debates would turn everything around. And then he said "No puppet...no puppet...you're the puppet!"
ya moron, its trump he says dumb hilarious shit all the time at rallies and yes Hillary is the puppet u lap dog shill
and yes there was voter problems in texas, many voter complaints
U ARE SO BAD
Dumb shit is one thing. Fascist anti-democratic shit is another.
ya moron, its trump he says dumb hilarious shit all the time at rallies and yes Hillary is the puppet u lap dog shill
and yes there was voter problems in texas, many voter complaints
U ARE SO BAD
So is the Republican dominated Texas government coordinating this voter fraud or what?
ya moron, its trump he says dumb hilarious shit all the time at rallies and yes Hillary is the puppet u lap dog shill
and yes there was voter problems in texas, many voter complaints
U ARE SO BAD
hey remember that time you tried to imitate trump by vomiting up your bullshit 30 times an hour in this thread, and i asked if you actually expected your opinions to be taken seriously and you said no?
that was hilarious.
"Birds born in a cage think flying is an illness." - Alejandro Jodorowsky
"America is not so much a nightmare as a non-dream. The American non-dream is precisely a move to wipe the dream out of existence. The dream is a spontaneous happening and therefore dangerous to a control system set up by the non-dreamers." -- William S. Burroughs
Oh i just wanted to know if you think it's worse to be married to a rapist than be a rapist? Obv nothing is proved from either side with rape but Bill's and Donald's cheating is well documented and proven. For me it seems weird to condemn being associated with a cheater but be perfectly happy to endorse a cheater.well idk why u even asked me the question, I actually kinda changed the subject off of bill's rapeness
and I prefer politicians not to lie as much as they can about everything while they are banking 225K bribes, obv u dont
"ya give me ur money and ill lie to the public & hook u up" u are ok with this
#DRAINTHESWAMP
Not sure if you're aware but there is a difference with a lie and having a filter of some kind.
Also you seem to be fine condemning speaking fees creating a possible conflict of interest regarding future decisions but you're again fine with ownership in companies creating a guaranteed conflict of interest. Such as Donnie boy owning shares in Energy Transfer partners and being endorsed by them while saying stuff like “lift the Obama-Clinton roadblocks to allow these vital energy infrastructure projects to go ahead”, “We are going to allow the Keystone pipeline and so many other things to move forwards. Tremendous numbers of jobs and good for our country.”. You know fuck the natives and their drinking water as long as Donnie boy gets paid.
"Ya give me ur vote and i'll lie to you, don't worry bout the money i'm already hooked up". Apparently you're fine with this. Association is worse than doing it and possible conflict is worse than guaranteed. How low are you going to set the bar for the orange blob?
hey remember that time you tried to imitate trump by vomiting up your bullshit 30 times an hour in this thread, and i asked if you actually expected your opinions to be taken seriously and you said no?
that was hilarious.
and moron? making fun of libtards is fun. can u plz stop trying to come after me every time and losing??
u guys are so deep in ur Hillary denial bullshit nothing makes sense. Just throwing together words that might sound like a decent argument. u guys cant really be this dumb, u just have no shame and doing anything to win must be
thesidedish: yup i prefer my politicians to not care if they win or lose, not desperately need to win to have money & career = corruption
trump is broke, hillary has 180m in the bank.
but you were saying something about how backwards and retarded liberals were, i didnt mean to interrupt.
"Birds born in a cage think flying is an illness." - Alejandro Jodorowsky
"America is not so much a nightmare as a non-dream. The American non-dream is precisely a move to wipe the dream out of existence. The dream is a spontaneous happening and therefore dangerous to a control system set up by the non-dreamers." -- William S. Burroughs
Yea the Laureate links came out from that biased liberal media more than a year ago. The conclusion back then was that yea it looks a bit shady but there's nothing damning that can be proven. The "new" stuff regarding that link is that it still looks shady but that's about it. A third party whining about missing his cut still isn't enough.
In most first world countries more than enough would have been shown to force a resignation, but your laws regarding bribery, conflict of interest and allowed campaign funding is so fucked up that there's very little you can do when politicians play within that frame. You've made it really hard to prove bribery.
Last edited by gimmick; 10-27-2016 at 10:04 PM.
Trump equal to Biff Tannen is pretty lol
Don't know when this video was made but he doesn't even mention the part about the Cubs in the World Series.
Bernie would have done absolutely nothing.
He wouldn't even mention the initial e-mail scandal, and in fact indicated in one of the debates that he's refusing to discuss it.
Bernie knew he had no chance, so he ran a softball campaign only attacking her from the left, and still being careful to avoid giving the right any ammo they could use once the primary was over. Bernie's whole battlecry was, "Hillary isn't liberal enough and doesn't care about the little guy like I do", but he was careful not to attack her honesty, trusthworthiness, or credibility. He knew that the right couldn't repeat any of his criticisms of Hillary, because those were left-wing criticisms, and the Republican candidate clearly couldn't run attack ads from the left.
He just wanted to be part of the national conversation for as long as possible, and to get his agenda into the Democratic platform. He succeeded at both, at which point he slinked back into his hole and became Hillary's bitch, like he had planned all along.
But yeah, you're correct about Assange botching the timing.
And what was up with the night he claimed he was going to drop a big bomb, and then rambled on about nothing?
What is wrong with this guy?
How hard will Barry take it when trump wins?
On a scale of 1 to 10, 1 being he just shrugs his jew nose and goes on with his life, 10 being that he goes into a rage, and crashes his effeminate prius.
Im going with like a 7, probably gets angry and forgets his change at the store, then drives back to pick it up.
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