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    And, anyway, this is the answer. I just don't see it happening.

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    Im just saying... no matter who they replace him with, the line vs Hillary is going to be too juicy to pass up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by big dick View Post
    Does anyone know the latest date that Trump is able to drop out before a new candidate can replace him? Say he quits mid september, can the gop still replace him with Ryan? Or does the gop just forfeit. What about mid August?
    The only limitation is the voting laws in each state. In most states you can get an absentee ballot a month before the election, some maybe earlier, and they have everything printed by that time. There's nothing stopping the Republicans from choosing a candidate and asking people to write him in, or from Trump doing the same even if he is replaced, but in some states you have to declare a write-in candidacy by a deadline.

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    I worry that some outside person or group liek Adelson or the koch brothers pay him to quit. 250 million cash im sure Trump will say ok fuck it I quit, not gonna win ayways.

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    The fact remains, Trump is only 5 points down, and he is still in very close in OH, FL, NC, IA, NV, VA and in striking distance in NH and PA. This is after a month of tremendous gaffes and an uninspired convention. That has to keep the Clinton campaign nervous, she really should be up 20 right now, say 50-30.

    I think its a tremendous risk the entire establishment, Wall Street and billionaires piling on Trump and backing Clinton. It actually can have a reverse effect. You have a society where the delta between the haves, and have nots expanding at an alarming rate.

    Trump is not as big of a long shot as Brexit was this far out. If he can stay away from controversy, and Wikileaks drops a bomb in the coming weeks, you could very well see Trump and Clinton tied going into the debates.

    The bottom line is Trump vanquished 16 opponents, and Clinton was weaker than a lot of them. You cannot discount that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by big dick View Post
    I worry that some outside person or group liek Adelson or the koch brothers pay him to quit. 250 million cash im sure Trump will say ok fuck it I quit, not gonna win ayways.
    You understand that is illegal, correct?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Draymond View Post
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    I worry that some outside person or group liek Adelson or the koch brothers pay him to quit. 250 million cash im sure Trump will say ok fuck it I quit, not gonna win ayways.
    You understand that is illegal, correct?

    This is not necessarily true. It could take the guise of a loan to 'cover expenses associated with the campaign' with zero interest, for example. Or they could simply give him consultancy fees, or any one of a vast number of other weird gigs to compensate him for bowing out before he finishes what he started.
    Last edited by sonatine; 08-03-2016 at 02:33 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
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    You understand that is illegal, correct?

    This is not necessarily true. It could take the guise of a loan to 'cover expenses associated with the campaign' with zero interest, for example. Or they could simply give him constancy fees, or any one of a vast number of other weird gigs to compensate him for bowing out before he finishes what he started.
    You are not taking into account this would never, ever happen. Even if it were legal, there is no way Trump would completely destroy his legacy and acting like a monumental pussy and running away. He is one of two people that can be President right now, and there is no way he is going to walk away from that.

    People are acting like Clinton is unbeatable, but that is mostly CNN which only 500,000 people daily watch. The next Wikileaks bomb could sink her candidacy. They have already said they are going to stagger the releases in the next several months. When that happens, nobody is going to remember Kahn or any of this other shit. It's all going to come down to the debates, and in my opinion Wikileaks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Draymond View Post
    The fact remains, Trump is only 5 points down, and he is still in very close in OH, FL, NC, IA, NV, VA and in striking distance in NH and PA. This is after a month of tremendous gaffes and an uninspired convention. That has to keep the Clinton campaign nervous, she really should be up 20 right now, say 50-30.

    I think its a tremendous risk the entire establishment, Wall Street and billionaires piling on Trump and backing Clinton. It actually can have a reverse effect. You have a society where the delta between the haves, and have nots expanding at an alarming rate.

    Trump is not as big of a long shot as Brexit was this far out. If he can stay away from controversy, and Wikileaks drops a bomb in the coming weeks, you could very well see Trump and Clinton tied going into the debates.

    The bottom line is Trump vanquished 16 opponents, and Clinton was weaker than a lot of them. You cannot discount that.
    Clinton has tons of negatives, but she's personally stronger than all 17 candidates the Republicans had. There is no chance that Trump rattles her in the way that he broke JEB!, lil Marco, Lyin Ted and others. Clinton has been under attack for 25 straight years. She's hard as nails. Trump's path to victory does not include crushing Clinton's spirit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Draymond View Post
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    This is not necessarily true. It could take the guise of a loan to 'cover expenses associated with the campaign' with zero interest, for example. Or they could simply give him constancy fees, or any one of a vast number of other weird gigs to compensate him for bowing out before he finishes what he started.
    You are not taking into account this would never, ever happen. Even if it were legal, there is no way Trump would completely destroy his legacy and acting like a monumental pussy and running away. He is one of two people that can be President right now, and there is no way he is going to walk away from that.

    People are acting like Clinton is unbeatable, but that is mostly CNN which only 500,000 people daily watch. The next Wikileaks bomb could sink her candidacy. They have already said they are going to stagger the releases in the next several months. When that happens, nobody is going to remember Kahn or any of this other shit. It's all going to come down to the debates, and in my opinion Wikileaks.
    My original theory, that all of this is a 24/7 publicity campaign for Trump Media's cable network/merch empire, suggests its not as out of character as your scenario would imply.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ToasterOven View Post
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    The fact remains, Trump is only 5 points down, and he is still in very close in OH, FL, NC, IA, NV, VA and in striking distance in NH and PA. This is after a month of tremendous gaffes and an uninspired convention. That has to keep the Clinton campaign nervous, she really should be up 20 right now, say 50-30.

    I think its a tremendous risk the entire establishment, Wall Street and billionaires piling on Trump and backing Clinton. It actually can have a reverse effect. You have a society where the delta between the haves, and have nots expanding at an alarming rate.

    Trump is not as big of a long shot as Brexit was this far out. If he can stay away from controversy, and Wikileaks drops a bomb in the coming weeks, you could very well see Trump and Clinton tied going into the debates.

    The bottom line is Trump vanquished 16 opponents, and Clinton was weaker than a lot of them. You cannot discount that.
    Clinton has tons of negatives, but she's personally stronger than all 17 candidates the Republicans had. There is no chance that Trump rattles her in the way that he broke JEB!, lil Marco, Lyin Ted and others. Clinton has been under attack for 25 straight years. She's hard as nails. Trump's path to victory does not include crushing Clinton's spirit.
    She barely beat a 75 year old Socialist. That is hardly an intimidating opponent. Like I said, Julian says there is going to be massive dumps in the next couple months, it would not surprise me if they come the day before the debate, and then the first 20 questions will be about that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
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    You are not taking into account this would never, ever happen. Even if it were legal, there is no way Trump would completely destroy his legacy and acting like a monumental pussy and running away. He is one of two people that can be President right now, and there is no way he is going to walk away from that.

    People are acting like Clinton is unbeatable, but that is mostly CNN which only 500,000 people daily watch. The next Wikileaks bomb could sink her candidacy. They have already said they are going to stagger the releases in the next several months. When that happens, nobody is going to remember Kahn or any of this other shit. It's all going to come down to the debates, and in my opinion Wikileaks.
    My original theory, that all of this is a 24/7 publicity campaign for Trump Media's cable network/merch empire, suggests its not as out of character as your scenario would imply.
    Could be. Trump is 70 so he is all about his legacy. Let's fact it, outside a couple Presidents the last 50 years (really Kennedy and Reagan), nobody really gives a shit about past Presidents, and neither of those two are in the Lincoln, FDR or Washington league anyway. But ABC, NBC and CBS are generational brands. So you may be right, but either way he is not going anywhere as his brand has never been stronger. You don't quit on top, and he is on top. Everyone thought the Stones were finished at age 40, and they actually become stronger the next 20 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Draymond View Post
    The fact remains, Trump is only 5 points down, and he is still in very close in OH, FL, NC, IA, NV, VA and in striking distance in NH and PA. This is after a month of tremendous gaffes and an uninspired convention. That has to keep the Clinton campaign nervous, she really should be up 20 right now, say 50-30.

    I think its a tremendous risk the entire establishment, Wall Street and billionaires piling on Trump and backing Clinton. It actually can have a reverse effect. You have a society where the delta between the haves, and have nots expanding at an alarming rate.

    Trump is not as big of a long shot as Brexit was this far out. If he can stay away from controversy, and Wikileaks drops a bomb in the coming weeks, you could very well see Trump and Clinton tied going into the debates.

    The bottom line is Trump vanquished 16 opponents, and Clinton was weaker than a lot of them. You cannot discount that.

    you're right about this, but what should keep republicans up at night is the fact that we will never eeeeeevvvver see a democratic candidate this weak again (the definition of a political insider at a time when the country hates the government and wants change, is distrusted by everyone, ties to wall street, benghazi, investigated by the fbi, etc.).

    the demographics in this country are already tilting heavy to democratic rule for the forseeable future. this is likely the best chance the republicans will have had to take back the white house in decades and they completely blew it by nominating the most disliked presidential candidate ever (not an exaggeration) who will literally get zero black or hispanic votes. i think if they nominated anyone other than trump (or cruz), hillary would probably have lost

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    Quote Originally Posted by Draymond View Post
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    Clinton has tons of negatives, but she's personally stronger than all 17 candidates the Republicans had. There is no chance that Trump rattles her in the way that he broke JEB!, lil Marco, Lyin Ted and others. Clinton has been under attack for 25 straight years. She's hard as nails. Trump's path to victory does not include crushing Clinton's spirit.
    She barely beat a 75 year old Socialist. That is hardly an intimidating opponent. Like I said, Julian says there is going to be massive dumps in the next couple months, it would not surprise me if they come the day before the debate, and then the first 20 questions will be about that.

    If you think she barely beat Bernie, I guess that explains why you think Trump is close. Right, there's going to be a huge oppo dump because Trump is so disciplined that he will hold his cards close for maximum effect. Do you guys even believe your own nonsense or are you all trying to make yourselves feel better? I hope it's the latter for your sake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ToasterOven View Post
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    She barely beat a 75 year old Socialist. That is hardly an intimidating opponent. Like I said, Julian says there is going to be massive dumps in the next couple months, it would not surprise me if they come the day before the debate, and then the first 20 questions will be about that.

    If you think she barely beat Bernie, I guess that explains why you think Trump is close. Right, there's going to be a huge oppo dump because Trump is so disciplined that he will hold his cards close for maximum effect. Do you guys even believe your own nonsense or are you all trying to make yourselves feel better? I hope it's the latter for your sake.
    Well, keep in mind I only make $70K a year, so I am poor and was never able to afford the expensive education like someone like yourself. I am quite stupid now that I think about it. I'm a really a dumb guy after listening to someone like you all these months.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blake View Post
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    The fact remains, Trump is only 5 points down, and he is still in very close in OH, FL, NC, IA, NV, VA and in striking distance in NH and PA. This is after a month of tremendous gaffes and an uninspired convention. That has to keep the Clinton campaign nervous, she really should be up 20 right now, say 50-30.

    I think its a tremendous risk the entire establishment, Wall Street and billionaires piling on Trump and backing Clinton. It actually can have a reverse effect. You have a society where the delta between the haves, and have nots expanding at an alarming rate.

    Trump is not as big of a long shot as Brexit was this far out. If he can stay away from controversy, and Wikileaks drops a bomb in the coming weeks, you could very well see Trump and Clinton tied going into the debates.

    The bottom line is Trump vanquished 16 opponents, and Clinton was weaker than a lot of them. You cannot discount that.

    you're right about this, but what should keep republicans up at night is the fact that we will never eeeeeevvvver see a democratic candidate this weak again (the definition of a political insider at a time when the country hates the government and wants change, is distrusted by everyone, ties to wall street, benghazi, investigated by the fbi, etc.).

    the demographics in this country are already tilting heavy to democratic rule for the forseeable future. this is likely the best chance the republicans will have had to take back the white house in decades and they completely blew it by nominating the most disliked presidential candidate ever (not an exaggeration) who will literally get zero black or hispanic votes. i think if they nominated anyone other than trump (or cruz), hillary would probably have lost
    If the Republicans nominated Ted Cruz, exactly what state would he have won over Obama? The answer is none. You can make a case the only guy who can motivate the lunch pail democrat who is facing or faced a job loss is Trump to the Republicans. You are correct, the demographic of the US is going much less white as people die. I doubt we will ever see a Republican President in the next 50 years. The good thing is the system will collapse under entitlements, and will be reset. So there is that. I don't care either way, I got "mine" already so I really don't give a shit. Life is all about nice things, pussy and great food and booze. All I care about, I am not looking to help anyone but myself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Draymond View Post
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    If you think she barely beat Bernie, I guess that explains why you think Trump is close. Right, there's going to be a huge oppo dump because Trump is so disciplined that he will hold his cards close for maximum effect. Do you guys even believe your own nonsense or are you all trying to make yourselves feel better? I hope it's the latter for your sake.
    Well, keep in mind I only make $70K a year, so I am poor and was never able to afford the expensive education like someone like yourself. I am quite stupid now that I think about it. I'm a really a dumb guy after listening to someone like you all these months.
    You bragged about making 70k a year. That has nothing to do with me. To be fair, you seem smarter than the other Trump supporters on here, but then, that's like being the leper with the most fingers.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Draymond View Post
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    you're right about this, but what should keep republicans up at night is the fact that we will never eeeeeevvvver see a democratic candidate this weak again (the definition of a political insider at a time when the country hates the government and wants change, is distrusted by everyone, ties to wall street, benghazi, investigated by the fbi, etc.).

    the demographics in this country are already tilting heavy to democratic rule for the forseeable future. this is likely the best chance the republicans will have had to take back the white house in decades and they completely blew it by nominating the most disliked presidential candidate ever (not an exaggeration) who will literally get zero black or hispanic votes. i think if they nominated anyone other than trump (or cruz), hillary would probably have lost
    If the Republicans nominated Ted Cruz, exactly what state would he have won over Obama? The answer is none. You can make a case the only guy who can motivate the lunch pail democrat who is facing or faced a job loss is Trump to the Republicans. You are correct, the demographic of the US is going much less white as people die. I doubt we will ever see a Republican President in the next 50 years. The good thing is the system will collapse under entitlements, and will be reset. So there is that. I don't care either way, I got "mine" already so I really don't give a shit. Life is all about nice things, pussy and great food and booze. All I care about, I am not looking to help anyone but myself.
    to be fair, i specifically said cruz wouldn't have done better and, you're right, he may even have done worse than trump

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    That must be Jill Stein's? I think the Koch's would like to know which one of their brothers gave to Hillary so they can disown him.

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