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    ITT: A grown ass man not accepting responsibility for putting himself in a position to be on probation, then pointing at talking points when confronted to be a man and accept that he broke at least one law that earned a jail term.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wrenchjockey View Post
    ITT: A grown ass man not accepting responsibility for putting himself in a position to be on probation, then pointing at talking points when confronted to be a man and accept that he broke at least one law that earned a jail term.


    And still betting on Domestic Violence as the original charge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LarryLaffer View Post
    Druff, I'd love to see you work a minimum wage job for 4 hours.



    my guess is, you've never actually had a minimum wage job ever.



    how much did you get paid before you switched to poker?


    pretty easy to point the blame when you can't relate.


    This drug war is a sham. and for someone who prides themselves on seeing through the bullshit, you really are blind to this one.


    sorry but this is the biggest scam that's ever happened in the USA. and you're defending it.


    oh because you think you're morally obligated to defend what you think is a just and fair system.

    Druff has never worked hard in his life, you can tell. His parents obviously paid for his college, and he got probably a DECENTLY paying programming shit job out of it(That has has stated many times that he HATED)

    He found poker and has never looked back, he's said it himself he doesn't ever want to work again LOL. Well poker is dead, and if he keeps betting on sports his bankroll will be gone soon enough, but it's okay he has a sugar momma, lol.


    edit: also lol he was driving a BMW in his low 20s
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Only a tiny percentage of those in prison didn't knowingly break the law.

    Most of those complaining about the US incarceration rate are doing so from a societal standpoint, as if somehow society is supposed to stop the individual from deciding to commit crimes.

    Furthermore, very few in prison are there because they were committing crimes in order to acquire basic necessities. For every guy in prison who was just trying to feed his starving family, there are 1000 who just wanted to get rich the easy way.

    The privatized prison system needs reform (though not for the tinfoil hat reasons that judges are supposedly sentencing people in exchange for bribes), but I don't see what we're supposed to do about the incarceration rate.

    Ignore crimes and just let people off? That's already happening too much as it is.

    Release nonviolent recreational drug users? Okay, but they only make up a tiny percentage of those in prison.

    Shorter sentences? I don't think that's a good idea, given that most criminals serve a short percentage of their sentence these days as it is.
    Law and Order republicans love putting people of color in jail. It makes them feel safer, but ask those same republicans to pay for it, they are nowhere to be found. Do you want to pay more California state taxes for more prisons Druff? I know I don't.

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    Larry, since you're being so open... What were the original charges that got you in trouble in the first place?

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    Quote Originally Posted by vegas1369 View Post
    Larry, since you're being so open... What were the original charges that got you in trouble in the first place?


    I'd rather not say. let's just say I beat a felony to a misdemeanor
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    Quote Originally Posted by vegas1369 View Post
    Larry, since you're being so open... What were the original charges that got you in trouble in the first place?


    I'd rather not say. let's just say I beat a felony to a misdemeanor
    One more hint please. If sharia law were the rule of the land would you still be looking at some jail time

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    Quote Originally Posted by CrackPipes and Kakfights View Post
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    I'd rather not say. let's just say I beat a felony to a misdemeanor
    One more hint please. If sharia law were the rule of the land would you still be looking at some jail time


    I'm famous.
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    mumbles knows my story. so does Drex.


    they can confirm I am not a dupe, I'm a real person.


    and I won't be seeing the clink. that's for sure.
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    who said I'm a grown man?


    I'm as juvenile as it gets.
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    do you guys have lives? why is everyone lurking on my shit.
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    so what did you do ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by big dick View Post
    so what did you do ?

    misdemeanor possession.
    Last edited by LarryLaffer; 07-05-2016 at 10:25 AM.
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    I don't get it.


    what's the deal with all the hate.


    we're all human.


    we all share one common interest.


    why do we all hate each other.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jayjami View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Only a tiny percentage of those in prison didn't knowingly break the law.

    Most of those complaining about the US incarceration rate are doing so from a societal standpoint, as if somehow society is supposed to stop the individual from deciding to commit crimes.

    Furthermore, very few in prison are there because they were committing crimes in order to acquire basic necessities. For every guy in prison who was just trying to feed his starving family, there are 1000 who just wanted to get rich the easy way.

    The privatized prison system needs reform (though not for the tinfoil hat reasons that judges are supposedly sentencing people in exchange for bribes), but I don't see what we're supposed to do about the incarceration rate.

    Ignore crimes and just let people off? That's already happening too much as it is.

    Release nonviolent recreational drug users? Okay, but they only make up a tiny percentage of those in prison.

    Shorter sentences? I don't think that's a good idea, given that most criminals serve a short percentage of their sentence these days as it is.
    Law and Order republicans love putting people of color in jail. It makes them feel safer, but ask those same republicans to pay for it, they are nowhere to be found. Do you want to pay more California state taxes for more prisons Druff? I know I don't.
    Druff could benefit from listening to a fellow conservative from California who has actual experience being a judge there dealing with drug crime cases.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gimmick View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by LarryLaffer View Post
    another serious question (even though you haven't answered any)

    do you believe homosexual acts should be outlawed?
    I believe this is the part where Druff naps out of this thread, if i've learned anything from history. But don't worry when a similar subject pops up after few months then Druff will give his same exact views on the subject mostly based on reasons.

    Regarding sodomy laws in the US. From this thread we can gather that when sodomy was still illegal Druff would have said:

    "We can't just look the other way when people do that, or otherwise it's unfair to those who choose NOT to do that, and follow the law.

    And we can't just dismiss "he was born that way, so that's why loves the cock" as a non-prison-worthy crime, because then everyone will claim to be "born that way" when caught.

    There should be more focus on nailing the bottoms, as well as lightening (or dropping) the sentences for tops if they cooperate against the bottoms.

    So, yes, some reform is necessary, but we can't decriminalize it to the extent you want."

    And then regarding those unfortunate idiotics behind bars:

    "Did those people in prison commit at least medium-level idioticry?

    If the answer is yes, then they deserve to be there.

    I don't care about the incarceration rate. I care that the people committing prison-worthy offenses are incarcerated for a fair and just sentence. That should be our goal when it comes to crime and punishment.

    I do not believe in complete decriminalization of sodomy, but rather an approach similar to that of online gambling, where it's not illegal to do but illegal to offer. Or, simply put, imprison the bottoms but not the tops."
    Great job putting words in my mouth about something totally unrelated.

    Sodomy laws were religion-based. I have never once come out here to defend religious-based laws.

    All drugs have a consequence upon society, but hard drugs are especially bad. We can't simply say, "Legalize all drugs for all adults and let them make their own decisions", because then it falls in society's lap to take care of these people when they become addicts.

    There is also an incorrect left-wing belief that decriminalizing drugs would end the mass incarceration problem.

    Wrong.

    Again, most of the people in prison for drug offenses are there because they were dealing. These people were dealing as a way to make quick money that wouldn't be available to them legally. If you take away the drug avenue for making money, they will simply resort to other illegal methods to obtain money, such as robbery, burglary, auto theft, extortion, and scamming. It is a left-wing fantasy that today's drug dealers will morph into productive members of society if drugs are legalized.

    And yes, Larry, I have worked for minimum wage before. It sucked and was rather eye-opening regarding what low-paid workers go through. However, there is also plenty of opportunity for advancement in the US for those that really want it. Nobody is stuck at minimum wage forever. In fact, there are plenty of people from this forum with no college education and working-class parents (or worse) who carved out a nice career and living for themselves.

    You cannot simply say, "Minimum wage jobs suck, so we should automatically forgive and exonerate anyone who resorts to illegal activities to make quick money."

    Again, that simply punishes those who follow the law and work had at the jobs they have.

    Complete decriminalization of drugs in this country would simply lead to a much worse addiction problem than we already have.

    Look at the growing addiction to prescription pain medication. This has grown sharply in the past decade due to one factor: Availability. Due to their legal status, these pills are easy to obtain, whether by shady doctors who prescribe them like candy or buying them from someone who obtained them from said doctors.

    The same people clamoring for complete legalization of drugs will be the ones demanding that society absorb the new increased addiction problem. If we don't spend loads of money treating these addicts, supporting them on disability when they can't work, and forgiving them for crimes they committed while high, those same people will accuse us of being cold and callous. It's a vicious cycle.

    This is not a matter of "freedom", because those who abuse this freedom will look to society to cure them.

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    Lets look at some bright sides here - At least Larry will hopefully be out of the pucture soon on this forum. One can only hope...

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    Quote Originally Posted by SysOp View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by LarryLaffer View Post
    Druff, I'd love to see you work a minimum wage job for 4 hours.



    my guess is, you've never actually had a minimum wage job ever.



    how much did you get paid before you switched to poker?


    pretty easy to point the blame when you can't relate.


    This drug war is a sham. and for someone who prides themselves on seeing through the bullshit, you really are blind to this one.


    sorry but this is the biggest scam that's ever happened in the USA. and you're defending it.


    oh because you think you're morally obligated to defend what you think is a just and fair system.

    Druff has never worked hard in his life, you can tell. His parents obviously paid for his college, and he got probably a DECENTLY paying programming shit job out of it(That has has stated many times that he HATED)

    He found poker and has never looked back, he's said it himself he doesn't ever want to work again LOL. Well poker is dead, and if he keeps betting on sports his bankroll will be gone soon enough, but it's okay he has a sugar momma, lol.


    edit: also lol he was driving a BMW in his low 20s
    My parents did pay for my college, but it was an inexpensive public college. I also lived in shitty places and drove a crap car during this time because I didn't want to cost them a lot of money. I only started to live better when I could afford it myself.

    I also worked various shit/minimum wage jobs in my late teens for spending money.

    I earned everything I have today. I saved my money so I had a bankroll to start when I began playing poker in my late 20s.

    In other words, your reads about me being some rich kid who was handed everything are way off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by gimmick View Post

    I believe this is the part where Druff naps out of this thread, if i've learned anything from history. But don't worry when a similar subject pops up after few months then Druff will give his same exact views on the subject mostly based on reasons.

    Regarding sodomy laws in the US. From this thread we can gather that when sodomy was still illegal Druff would have said:

    "We can't just look the other way when people do that, or otherwise it's unfair to those who choose NOT to do that, and follow the law.

    And we can't just dismiss "he was born that way, so that's why loves the cock" as a non-prison-worthy crime, because then everyone will claim to be "born that way" when caught.

    There should be more focus on nailing the bottoms, as well as lightening (or dropping) the sentences for tops if they cooperate against the bottoms.

    So, yes, some reform is necessary, but we can't decriminalize it to the extent you want."

    And then regarding those unfortunate faggots behind bars:

    "Did those people in prison commit at least medium-level faggotry?

    If the answer is yes, then they deserve to be there.

    I don't care about the incarceration rate. I care that the people committing prison-worthy offenses are incarcerated for a fair and just sentence. That should be our goal when it comes to crime and punishment.

    I do not believe in complete decriminalization of sodomy, but rather an approach similar to that of online gambling, where it's not illegal to do but illegal to offer. Or, simply put, imprison the bottoms but not the tops."
    Great job putting words in my mouth about something totally unrelated.

    Sodomy laws were religion-based. I have never once come out here to defend religious-based laws.

    All drugs have a consequence upon society, but hard drugs are especially bad. We can't simply say, "Legalize all drugs for all adults and let them make their own decisions", because then it falls in society's lap to take care of these people when they become addicts.

    There is also an incorrect left-wing belief that decriminalizing drugs would end the mass incarceration problem.

    Wrong.

    Again, most of the people in prison for drug offenses are there because they were dealing. These people were dealing as a way to make quick money that wouldn't be available to them legally. If you take away the drug avenue for making money, they will simply resort to other illegal methods to obtain money, such as robbery, burglary, auto theft, extortion, and scamming. It is a left-wing fantasy that today's drug dealers will morph into productive members of society if drugs are legalized.

    And yes, Larry, I have worked for minimum wage before. It sucked and was rather eye-opening regarding what low-paid workers go through. However, there is also plenty of opportunity for advancement in the US for those that really want it. Nobody is stuck at minimum wage forever. In fact, there are plenty of people from this forum with no college education and working-class parents (or worse) who carved out a nice career and living for themselves.

    You cannot simply say, "Minimum wage jobs suck, so we should automatically forgive and exonerate anyone who resorts to illegal activities to make quick money."

    Again, that simply punishes those who follow the law and work had at the jobs they have.

    Complete decriminalization of drugs in this country would simply lead to a much worse addiction problem than we already have.

    Look at the growing addiction to prescription pain medication. This has grown sharply in the past decade due to one factor: Availability. Due to their legal status, these pills are easy to obtain, whether by shady doctors who prescribe them like candy or buying them from someone who obtained them from said doctors.

    The same people clamoring for complete legalization of drugs will be the ones demanding that society absorb the new increased addiction problem. If we don't spend loads of money treating these addicts, supporting them on disability when they can't work, and forgiving them for crimes they committed while high, those same people will accuse us of being cold and callous. It's a vicious cycle.

    This is not a matter of "freedom", because those who abuse this freedom will look to society to cure them.
    Druff, I agree that the prescription drug abuse levels are now off the hook. But there is a relatively easy fix to reduce the availability of such drugs: Make the manufacturers bear some liability risk for treating people who abuse their drugs. Because right now, there is absolutely zero cost to Big Pharma for all of the misuse of those drugs that their super-profitable-to-big-pharma-availability fosters.

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    Were Republicans cowardly or unethical not to go along with [convicting Trump in the second impeachment Senate trial]? No. The smart move was to reject it.

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    Oh, and like Wrenchjocky basically said....

    Own up to your shit you sniveling little coward.

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