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    That said, Hillary is actually further right on a lot of foreign policy / knifes edge issues than Trump, so that plus her cozy relationship with Wall Street make her the least democratic democrat in the history of American politics.

    Trump is an isolationist; he wants to get into that America first thing (although he clearly has no idea how to pull it off).

    Hillary's on that pre-Iraq invasion CIA based global influence sneak tip where she basically cajoles Egypt/SA/Turkey/Iran etc into doing her dirt in exchange for advanced arms and a reduction in domestic renewable energy subsidies.

    Which I dont think is a terrible card to play right now in truth.
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    Well...allow me to reTORT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post

    And thats super duper fucking insane.

    Point being; when you go ham city on Hillary for doing everything that a politician has to do to avoid a shark's death, it seems a little ludicrous given the severity of issues in what constitutes the Republican camp at this time.
    If you consider what Hillary has done over the years as simple political pragmatism THAT is super duper fucking insane.

    A little deal making is one thing. Everyone commits a little petty theft. But she is a 40 year career criminal who has very little regard for the intellect of her opponents and the the dimwits who enforce the laws (and the voters).

    She possesses the same arrogance that Richard Nixon had. I think she is several orders of magnitude smarter than Nixon. Nixon lived during a simpler time. Still, give her 8 years and there is no way she doesn't make a fatal error.

    The press does a pretty poor job with a candidates as their motives and interests are complex and self serving. However, taking down those in office is a non partisan career touchdown.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
    Your candidates are literally insane, they read the bible and believe it. And the rest of them are Trump.

    We get it; you are very offended that people at the highest levels of government make like, deals and shit.


    But seriously bro glass houses.
    There are plenty of secular or mostly-secular Republicans. Casting the entire party as insane bible beaters is so 1996.

    Hillary is not a dealmaker. She is corrupt and dishonest, even by politician standards. You can't believe a word she tells you, again, even by politician standards.

    Scandal and subterfuge always follows the Clintons, and there's a reason for that.

    Republicans have an identity crisis. The party was first semi-hijacked by the religious right, and now there's a second hijacking by the Trump isolationists. They will need to solve this identity crisis before winning the White House again.

    Of course, the Democrats have their own identity crisis, where the once-loyal leftist faction learned that they've been supporting a party which both rigs elections (lol superdelegates) and is in bed with corporate America just as much as the Republicans. So they kinda feel duped, and that's part of the reason Bernie Sanders still remains so influential. So lots of left wing Dems are waking up and realizing that they've been used and lied to for all these years, and they're pissed off.

    Bottom line is that I wouldn't be surprised if both parties experience some major reform pains very soon.
    Make that 1992. Which is when George H. W. Bush, whom I voted for 4 years earlier, caved to the religious right and came out hard -- for THE first time in his very long-by-then political career -- against abortion rights. And seeing Bill Clinton as the snake oil salesman he has never stopped being, I cast a protest vote for Perot. And again in 1996. And haven't voted for the now-thoroughly-wedded-to-the-religious-fucking-nutjob-right GOP ever since.

     
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    I actually hope this [second impeachment] succeeds, because I want Trump put down politically like a sick, 14-year-old dog. ... I don't want him complicating the 2024 primary season. I just want him done.
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    Were Republicans cowardly or unethical not to go along with [convicting Trump in the second impeachment Senate trial]? No. The smart move was to reject it.

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    This thread is a bunch of C.E.C bullcrap. Don't get it twisted, Democrats are nowhere near as corrupt as Republicans. Obama and his entire admin have been a pillar of integrity his entire time in office.


    http://www.azcentral.com/story/news/...tion/86590004/

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    Quote Originally Posted by FPS_Russia View Post
    This thread is a bunch of C.E.C bullcrap. Don't get it twisted, Democrats are nowhere near as corrupt as Republicans. Obama and his entire admin have been a pillar of integrity his entire time in office.


    http://www.azcentral.com/story/news/...tion/86590004/
    Agreed about the Repubs (anyone remember how Casper Weinburger needed a presidential pardon to keep from becoming a multi-year resident at a federal holiday camp?)

    Re Obama: Agreed (even if he was a bit lie-ey about being able to keep your existing health insurance plan, waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay incompetent in grand-overseeing the rollout of the federal Obamacare website, and too fucking wedded to reliving the glory days of the British Empire in their 19th-century military adventurism in Afghanistan.)

     
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    I actually hope this [second impeachment] succeeds, because I want Trump put down politically like a sick, 14-year-old dog. ... I don't want him complicating the 2024 primary season. I just want him done.
    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Were Republicans cowardly or unethical not to go along with [convicting Trump in the second impeachment Senate trial]? No. The smart move was to reject it.

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    He talks about the 27 months mentioned in op. This guys claims went from (lol unlikely) yesterday to (holy shit is there any possible scenario she doesn't get indicted?) today. Wow get your popcorn ready folks...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sanlmar View Post



    A little deal making is one thing. Everyone commits a little petty theft. But she is a 40 year career criminal who has very little regard for the intellect of her opponents and the the dimwits who enforce the laws (and the voters).

    She possesses the same arrogance that Richard Nixon had. I think she is several orders of magnitude smarter than Nixon. Nixon lived during a simpler time. Still, give her 8 years and there is no way she doesn't make a fatal error.

    The press does a pretty poor job with a candidates as their motives and interests are complex and self serving. However, taking down those in office is a non partisan career touchdown.

    Serious question; did you sober up the next morning and be like 'ok please god maybe no one saw what i just posted...'
    "Birds born in a cage think flying is an illness." - Alejandro Jodorowsky

    "America is not so much a nightmare as a non-dream. The American non-dream is precisely a move to wipe the dream out of existence. The dream is a spontaneous happening and therefore dangerous to a control system set up by the non-dreamers." -- William S. Burroughs

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    Im honestly sitting here flabbergasted at not only the obvious sign of leftists who will do nothing but explain away Killary's horsefuckery, but criticize anyone who dares to bring this topic to light

    You idiots should be ashamed. You incessantly complain about right wingers bla bla bla. You cant even see your blatantly obvious bias to a career criminal/politician who should have been purged a long time ago. Holy fuck. If Hillary were a right winger, we wouldn't even be having this convo right now because she would have been locked up a long time ago.

    Are you libtards SERIOUS?!?


    I am in awe

     
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    You're not in awe, you just have the perspective of a hick.


    Democrats do like, shady real estate shit, Republicans start world war 3 for oil, refuse to disarm domestic terrorists, discredit science in the name of The Lord, and honestly believe they can drive this planet into the shitter because its God's will.


    So again, really, shut it down Gordo.
    "Birds born in a cage think flying is an illness." - Alejandro Jodorowsky

    "America is not so much a nightmare as a non-dream. The American non-dream is precisely a move to wipe the dream out of existence. The dream is a spontaneous happening and therefore dangerous to a control system set up by the non-dreamers." -- William S. Burroughs

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    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
    You're not in awe, you just have the perspective of a hick.


    Democrats do like, shady real estate shit, Republicans start world war 3 for oil, refuse to disarm domestic terrorists, discredit science in the name of The Lord, and honestly believe they can drive this planet into the shitter because its God's will.


    So again, really, shut it down Gordo.
    Thats a mighty nice spin you have there. "democrats just do shady real estate shit" whow! that's all?! holy shit, im voting for Hillry

    Do you honestly think im that fucking stupid?

    I could pick apart a huge part of what you said and crush you, but you know what? What's the point? Im cooking some meat right now, and prepping my boat to go out and catch some fish with my boy tomorrow. why should i argue with people on the net right now - ill leave with this fact though: Democrats in this country( and people who would lean Dem) have killed FAR more people than right wingers in this day and age...and its not even fucking close. So go ahead, keep talking about these "domestic terrorists" you speak of - odds are overwhelming that they are from YOUR party.

    That aside, bottom line is Democrats do the same shady illegal shit that Republicans do.

    The only people dumb enough at this point are the ones who are still vigorously massaging the prostate of their fail party. I honestly never thought you would be one of them at this juncture.




    Meanwhile, ill probably be voting for this guy:

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    You really surprise me here Sonatine, I thought you were smarter than this.

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    http://www.slate.com/articles/news_a...lifies_it.html
    Half way down
    So yeah, Anna Khait was at a Trump rally wearing a Hillary for prison shirt. She bought it off Infowars lol.

    Quote from Slate article
    "LAS VEGAS—Anna Khait, a 27-year-old professional poker player and a contestant on the latest season of Survivor, was standing next to the entrance of the Cirque du Soleil’s Mystère in the Treasure Island Hotel, explaining the shirt she was wearing. It read “Hillary for Prison 2016.” A line looped around vast portions of the sprawling casino—thousands of people, in all, hoping to see Donald Trump speak.

    “I got this on Infowars.com. I love this shirt,” Khait said. “There’s so many people walking by saying, ‘I love this shirt, I love this shirt, give me a high five.’ ”

    At this moment a middle-aged black woman stopped to compliment Khait on her shirt. “Yay, Hillary!”

    “For prison,” Khait explained gently."

    Lol it sounds like either Khait or the Slate reporter threw a lil white lie into their story. I guess it could be a coincidence.

    Does what happens at 1:10 sound remarkably similar to whats described in the slate article?

    It don't matter tho, in the Trump and Hillary campaign telling lies is how you get credibility, strange election...

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gordman View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
    You're not in awe, you just have the perspective of a hick.


    Democrats do like, shady real estate shit, Republicans start world war 3 for oil, refuse to disarm domestic terrorists, discredit science in the name of The Lord, and honestly believe they can drive this planet into the shitter because its God's will.


    So again, really, shut it down Gordo.
    Thats a mighty nice spin you have there. "democrats just do shady real estate shit" whow! that's all?! holy shit, im voting for Hillry

    Do you honestly think im that fucking stupid?

    I could pick apart a huge part of what you said and crush you, but you know what? What's the point? Im cooking some meat right now, and prepping my boat to go out and catch some fish with my boy tomorrow. why should i argue with people on the net right now - ill leave with this fact though: Democrats in this country( and people who would lean Dem) have killed FAR more people than right wingers in this day and age...and its not even fucking close. So go ahead, keep talking about these "domestic terrorists" you speak of - odds are overwhelming that they are from YOUR party.

    That aside, bottom line is Democrats do the same shady illegal shit that Republicans do.

    The only people dumb enough at this point are the ones who are still vigorously massaging the prostate of their fail party. I honestly never thought you would be one of them at this juncture.




    Meanwhile, ill probably be voting for this guy:

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    meat and fishing do sound amazing. what body count are you talking about? because i more than half expect youre going to bring up abortion and its going to be incredible.
    "Birds born in a cage think flying is an illness." - Alejandro Jodorowsky

    "America is not so much a nightmare as a non-dream. The American non-dream is precisely a move to wipe the dream out of existence. The dream is a spontaneous happening and therefore dangerous to a control system set up by the non-dreamers." -- William S. Burroughs

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    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Gordman View Post

    Thats a mighty nice spin you have there. "democrats just do shady real estate shit" whow! that's all?! holy shit, im voting for Hillry

    Do you honestly think im that fucking stupid?

    I could pick apart a huge part of what you said and crush you, but you know what? What's the point? Im cooking some meat right now, and prepping my boat to go out and catch some fish with my boy tomorrow. why should i argue with people on the net right now - ill leave with this fact though: Democrats in this country( and people who would lean Dem) have killed FAR more people than right wingers in this day and age...and its not even fucking close. So go ahead, keep talking about these "domestic terrorists" you speak of - odds are overwhelming that they are from YOUR party.

    That aside, bottom line is Democrats do the same shady illegal shit that Republicans do.

    The only people dumb enough at this point are the ones who are still vigorously massaging the prostate of their fail party. I honestly never thought you would be one of them at this juncture.




    Meanwhile, ill probably be voting for this guy:

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    meat and fishing do sound amazing. what body count are you talking about? because i more than half expect youre going to bring up abortion and its going to be incredible.

    Just jumped in quick here to say I'm absolutely NOT talking about abortion - i had a feeling someone would bring that up so im glad we got that out of the way.

     
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    Voting for Gary Johnson is cool if you're smoking pot working weekends and knocking out your gen eds at community college, but if you want to be taken as a grown up by the rest of us then you better start evaluating the issues as an adult.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Henry View Post
    Voting for Gary Johnson is cool if you're smoking pot working weekends and knocking out your gen eds at community college, but if you want to be taken as a grown up by the rest of us then you better start evaluating the issues as an adult.
    He was on bill maher tonight and came off more like a used car salesman than a presidential candidate

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyde View Post
    Statement issued I just heard that Loretta Lynch claims they spent an hour discussing golf, and their grandchildren


    Yeah Bill just happened to be here in Phoenix when Loretta flew in to give a pat on the back to Phoenix PD for their "community policing" in otherwords they weren't doing like Sheriff Joe and doing the Feds job they refuse to do themselves which is immediate take the illegals into custody when they are stopped or cited for other things because well THEY ARE BREAKING THE LAW.. CBP/ICE guys here in Phoenix and across AZ are pissed as hell over what DC is doing to them as far as tying their hands.. Its gotten so bad they are literally catching and releasing them on orders of the Feds anymore.. Some guys are saying WTF is the point of us even checking who the hell is coming in at the legal entrance points anymore since DC doesn't give 2 fucks about all the illegal crossings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krypt View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Henry View Post
    Voting for Gary Johnson is cool if you're smoking pot working weekends and knocking out your gen eds at community college, but if you want to be taken as a grown up by the rest of us then you better start evaluating the issues as an adult.
    He was on bill maher tonight and came off more like a used car salesman than a presidential candidate
    Yeah I think voters of both parties are dissatisfied with their nominee right now and are voting for the idea of Johnson, rather than Johnson himself. Johnson's boring and weird, much like his party's platform.

    The party basically exists to allow populist dipshits like Gordman to feel trendy. As if Gordman's now smarter than your average republican because he's 'libertarian'.

    It's not as if the party actually represents conservatism.

    Let's allow easy legal access to hard drugs for everyone because fuck family structure.

    And hey its 2016, let's cut government to the bare minimum.

    And while we're at it, let's isolate ourselves from the rest of the world.

    Said no thoughtful realistic American ever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Henry View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Krypt View Post

    He was on bill maher tonight and came off more like a used car salesman than a presidential candidate
    Yeah I think voters of both parties are dissatisfied with their nominee right now and are voting for the idea of Johnson, rather than Johnson himself. Johnson's boring and weird, much like his party's platform.

    The party basically exists to allow populist dipshits like Gordman to feel trendy. As if Gordman's now smarter than your average republican because he's 'libertarian'.

    It's not as if the party actually represents conservatism.

    Let's allow easy legal access to hard drugs for everyone because fuck family structure.

    And hey its 2016, let's cut government to the bare minimum.

    And while we're at it, let's isolate ourselves from the rest of the world.

    Said no thoughtful realistic American ever.
    Let's allow easy legal access to hard drugs for everyone because fuck family structure.

    Personal responsibility is harrrrrrrd to understand for most Liberals.


    And hey its 2016, let's cut government to the bare minimum.

    Libertarians are not anti-government they are anti Federal Government, how are you feeling about your taxation without real representation right now?


    And while we're at it, let's isolate ourselves from the rest of the world.

    Just because Libertarians want to close military bases around the world doesn't mean they are anti-trade. To be fair there is a strong isolationist group in the Libertarian Party but the party platform isn't isolationist in nature.

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