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    Does Brock have to sign on with the UFC wait six months while he's under USADA's random testing b4 he can fight>?

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    Quote Originally Posted by FPS_Russia View Post
    Does Brock have to sign on with the UFC wait six months while he's under USADA's random testing b4 he can fight>?
    Obviously not or he wouldn't be fighting next month at 200..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shizzmoney View Post
    Hunt vs Brock at UFC 200



    Looks like Carwin is also back on the roster



    Also, I look forward to firing my bankroll on Mickey Gall:

    Meant to post a couple days ago when the news about Brock got out.. My guess was it would be Hunt or Nelson he would face because they'd want somebody who was a stand up beast for Lesnar.. Honestly Lesnar's been out of the game so long his only hope to win probably would be somebody who is willing to go toe to toe with him throwing down vs a more technical match involving BJJ. Because aint noway he's gonna be able to send people to suplex city in a match that aint predetermined..

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    Quote Originally Posted by FPS_Russia View Post
    Does Brock have to sign on with the UFC wait six months while he's under USADA's random testing b4 he can fight>?
    The entire USADA/UFC ruleset is online, you can always look this shit up. The obvious answer is of course not, because the USADA works for the UFC, and the UFC can pretty much do as they wish. The cliffs are that it is 4 months, not 6, and the UFC can waive the rule when it feels it is unfair to the athlete, which means they really don't need any reason at all, they can just decide it is unfair in this one case so fuck it.

    5.7 FORMER UFC ATHLETES RETURNING TO UFC COMPETITION
    5.7.1 An Athlete who gives notice of retirement to UFC, or hasotherwise ceased to have a contractual relationship with UFC,may not resume competing in UFC Bouts until he/she has givenUFC written notice of his/her intent to resume competing andhas made him/herself available for Testing for a period of fourmonths before returning to competition. UFC may grant anexemption to the four-month written notice rule in exceptionalcircumstances or where the strict application of that rule wouldbe manifestly unfair to an Athlete.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shizzmoney View Post
    Hunt vs Brock at UFC 200



    Looks like Carwin is also back on the roster



    Also, I look forward to firing my bankroll on Mickey Gall:

    Seems like horrible matchmaking. Then again pretty much every Lesnar fight qualified as a freak show or terrible match up being how one dimensional he is (and I say this as a Lesnar fan).

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    Brock Lesnar +160
    Mark Hunt -195


    yeahhhhh thats giving a lot of credit to someone who hasnt fought since 2011 and has panic attacks when someone hits his face.
    "Birds born in a cage think flying is an illness." - Alejandro Jodorowsky

    "America is not so much a nightmare as a non-dream. The American non-dream is precisely a move to wipe the dream out of existence. The dream is a spontaneous happening and therefore dangerous to a control system set up by the non-dreamers." -- William S. Burroughs

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    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
    Brock Lesnar +160
    Mark Hunt -195


    yeahhhhh thats giving a lot of credit to someone who hasnt fought since 2011 and has panic attacks when someone hits his face.
    Brock's soft belly meat ftw

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    LOL and UFC just dropped that they lifted the ban on Helwani, after Dana said a few hours ago over his dead body basically. Trying to bury it under the Kimbo news.

    They were getting absolutely destroyed by literally 100% of people so obviously they had no choice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NaturalBornHustler View Post
    LOL and UFC just dropped that they lifted the ban on Helwani, after Dana said a few hours ago over his dead body basically. Trying to bury it under the Kimbo news.

    They were getting absolutely destroyed by literally 100% of people so obviously they had no choice.
    So what was the backstory on that guy anyway? Why did they deep six him?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4Dragons View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by NaturalBornHustler View Post
    LOL and UFC just dropped that they lifted the ban on Helwani, after Dana said a few hours ago over his dead body basically. Trying to bury it under the Kimbo news.

    They were getting absolutely destroyed by literally 100% of people so obviously they had no choice.
    So what was the backstory on that guy anyway? Why did they deep six him?
    He broke the story that Lesnar would be fighting at UFC 200 & Dana was butthurt because he wanted to break the news during Saturday's UFC 199 broadcast.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hockey Guy View Post
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    So what was the backstory on that guy anyway? Why did they deep six him?
    He broke the story that Lesnar would be fighting at UFC 200 & Dana was butthurt because he wanted to break the news during Saturday's UFC 199 broadcast.
    today's mma hour is worth a listen, Ariel basically tells the story of the last 5 years and his UFC problems. The craziest story is the one he won't talk about right now, which is when dana's security assaulted and choked Ariel for asking Chuck Liddell questions at an event about 25 ppvs ago. It had been hinted at long ago, and people like frontrowbrian talked about it, but Ariel essentially confirmed it today, though not in those words.

    In general, tho, Lorenzo hates Ariel and has no respect for any reporters, especially those who he feels fuck with his business, and has the power to do something about it. That's the entirety of it in a single sentence. Dana is merely the guy who does the dirty work, I don't think he takes any of it personally long term.

    Couple years ago, Dave Meltzer told a great story about Dana and his outlook in general. After Dave wrote something or other, Dana called/texted him and told Dave that he was going to publicly rip on him later that day, and wanted to give him a heads up, or something like that. Dave thanked him, later that day Dana went off on Dave at a press conference, and their relationship continued on as if nothing ever happened. I'll see if I can dig that up, it was a pretty funny story about how the UFC handles shit in general.

    edit: The Meltzer thing was about an article Dave wrote on shitty UFC on Fox ratings.
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    Here's all I want to say.

    Dana called me and told me what he was going to do ahead of time saying he didn't want to blindside me. He was pissed at the article in last week's Observer and if he's pissed he doesn't hold it in. And I've got no issue with that or with him. I wish he hadn't brought up the Yahoo thing just because it brings sympathy to me that I don't want and that it probably does him no benefit to the outside world to be doing. It appears he's kicking a guy when he's down and I'm not down, so it didn't bother me, but to the outside world, I don't know how it comes across.

    Rather than rallying around me or saying Dana's hurting into Eric or Vince, just read the article. If you think I wasn't fair and presenting both sides of the story, then he's right to be mad. If you think I was fair, then that's cool. Any discussions should be about the points in the article because if anyone thinks I'm mad at him, well, that's the furthest thing from the case.

    As far as I'm concerned, I thought the article was fair. He didn't. We've disagreed before and agree far more than we disagree when it comes to the product."

     
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    I have been watching ticket prices and my friend thinks that UFC needed to add another big name since no one was spending 915-1300 dollars on a ticket for this event.

    Him and I pulled the trigger over the weekend and spent 900ish for seats.

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    I will take Brock all day at +200 for UFC 200.

    Remember this is now the WWE not the UFC. All about the Benji's

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    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
    Brock Lesnar +160
    Mark Hunt -195


    yeahhhhh thats giving a lot of credit to someone who hasnt fought since 2011 and has panic attacks when someone hits his face.
    Hunt by kimura from the guard at 3:47 of the first round after Brock gasses from taking him down

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    Quote Originally Posted by shortbuspoker View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
    Brock Lesnar +160
    Mark Hunt -195


    yeahhhhh thats giving a lot of credit to someone who hasnt fought since 2011 and has panic attacks when someone hits his face.
    Hunt by kimura from the guard at 3:47 of the first round after Brock gasses from taking him down

    Ya know that brings up something funny; i've seen a ton of mma fights and a ton of kimura attempts and can't recall anyone ever finishing with one? It's like they start to work the kimura and use that to transition to something more workable.

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    yeah at this point, most people use the kimura to transition to full mount or get the back.

    whats funny is... the fight before fedor looked like shit against arlovski, hunt almost kimura'd him in pride. and fedor was always like 'no no he was not close' but a lot of people felt that with another couple of minutes on the clock, hunt could have nailed it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
    yeah at this point, most people use the kimura to transition to full mount or get the back.

    whats funny is... the fight before fedor looked like shit against arlovski, hunt almost kimura'd him in pride. and fedor was always like 'no no he was not close' but a lot of people felt that with another couple of minutes on the clock, hunt could have nailed it.
    I think it works because Brock will panic. Kind of like the first bjj guys who tapped to the can opener before they realized that all they had to do was open their guard and it would take the pressure off their necks.

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    6/18/2016 11:59 PM UFC Fighting 1002 Rory MacDonald* -105 vs Stephen Thompson
    6/18/2016 11:30 PM UFC Fighting 1102 Donald Cerrone* -170 vs Patrick Cote
    7/8/2016 11:30 PM UFC Fighting 1002 Joanna Jedrzejczyk* -230 vs Claudia Gadelha
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    7/9/2016 10:00 PM UFC Fighting 1502 Gegard Mousasi* -220 vs Derek Brunson
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    "Birds born in a cage think flying is an illness." - Alejandro Jodorowsky

    "America is not so much a nightmare as a non-dream. The American non-dream is precisely a move to wipe the dream out of existence. The dream is a spontaneous happening and therefore dangerous to a control system set up by the non-dreamers." -- William S. Burroughs

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    The fight Im most nervous about there is Rory v Wonderboy, glad its happening sooner than the rest.
    "Birds born in a cage think flying is an illness." - Alejandro Jodorowsky

    "America is not so much a nightmare as a non-dream. The American non-dream is precisely a move to wipe the dream out of existence. The dream is a spontaneous happening and therefore dangerous to a control system set up by the non-dreamers." -- William S. Burroughs

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    Brock losing to Hunt by kimura? You nuts? I mean, the kimura was Brock's go-to finisher in the WWE for like a year! Dude's a kimura master.




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