Should Apple help government hack into the phone of dead terrorist?

[4Dragons]

Trump just called for Apple boycott


Sorry Druff. Lose $1500 or support Trump? Ouch

I've heard somewhere in the right wing media that Apple was doing this in THIS SPOT because they don't want muslim's to stop buying their phones, wtf?

[sonatine]

Trump just called for Apple boycott


Sorry Druff. Lose $1500 or support Trump? Ouch

I've heard somewhere in the right wing media that Apple was doing this in THIS SPOT because the NSA don't want muslim's to stop buying their phones, wtf?

etc etc

[Shizzmoney]

The police reset San Bernardino shooter's iPhone pword while in their possession #oops https://gma.yahoo.com/san-bernardino...opstories.html

[sonatine]

The police reset San Bernardino shooter's iPhone pword while in their possession #oops https://gma.yahoo.com/san-bernardino...opstories.html

The IT guy who did that will be lucky if he ends up a manager at Cinnabons.

[sonatine]

http://boingboing.net/2016/02/19/fed...o-privacy.html

In the 30-page document [PDF], government lawyers write that Apple is only resisting out of “concern for its business model and public brand marketing strategy.”

[SysOp]

http://boingboing.net/2016/02/19/fed...o-privacy.html

In the 30-page document [PDF], government lawyers write that Apple is only resisting out of “concern for its business model and public brand marketing strategy.”

no shit.

[Muck Ficon]

Donald Trump wants America to boycott Apple. But he isn't leading by example.

The GOP presidential contender is still tweeting from his iPhone, despite having called on the public to abandon Apple amid its ongoing fight with the Justice Department.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...one/?tid=sm_fb

[Shizzmoney]

The police reset San Bernardino shooter's iPhone pword while in their possession #oops https://gma.yahoo.com/san-bernardino...opstories.html

The IT guy who did that will be lucky if he ends up a manager at Cinnabons.

And now this:

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https://twitter.com/twt/status/701108437166354433

[herbertstemple]

They should drag the Apple CEO out into the street and pump 16 bullets into him.

Problem solved.

[Dan Druff]

Great article explaining the whole thing, and why Apple is full of shit: http://thefederalist.com/2016/02/19/...arooks-iphone/

[MumblesBadly]

Great article explaining why Apple should stand it's ground.

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/02/21...ivacy-vow.html

(Pssst! It's about China, anti-privacy proponents!)

[4Dragons]

So Jones puts it out there that Apple remote checked the phone and says that the FBI is already in the phone? References or bs?

[Sanlmar]

http://boingboing.net/2016/02/19/fed...o-privacy.html

In the 30-page document [PDF], government lawyers write that Apple is only resisting out of “concern for its business model and public brand marketing strategy.”

You have hammered this repeatedly. I am as cynical as the next guy but have not been ready to go there. Just a feel.

This isn't the first case of this sort. Apple, it is argued, actually would have preferred the request remain sealed.


https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20...-iphones.shtml

Still, given all of this, the details of all of these cases were kept sealed until now. And, it's been reported that Apple had asked for the San Bernardino case to be sealed as well, but the DOJ was the one who moved to make it public

My thought for the day is this: Apple is a global company. It is fine that the U.S. DOJ wants access. But what if China asked Apple to unlock a dissident's phone - or a Bitcoin traders phone? Just one example.

This example actually should cause you to ask which market is more important to Apple right now.

I see the flip side as Apple wants to be your service company. They can't risk appearing to be FaceBook or all those other creepy outfits who harvest your data for profit. So there is that.

This is a good game of chess. I think Apple is playing several moves ahead of you.

[4Dragons]

You have hammered this repeatedly. I am as cynical as the next guy but have not been ready to go there. Just a feel.

This isn't the first case of this sort. Apple, it is argued, actually would have preferred the request remain sealed.


https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20...-iphones.shtml

Still, given all of this, the details of all of these cases were kept sealed until now. And, it's been reported that Apple had asked for the San Bernardino case to be sealed as well, but the DOJ was the one who moved to make it public

My thought for the day is this: Apple is a global company. It is fine that the U.S. DOJ wants access. But what if China asked Apple to unlock a dissident's phone - or a Bitcoin traders phone? Just one example.

This example actually should cause you to ask which market is more important to Apple right now.

I see the flip side as Apple wants to be your service company. They can't risk appearing to be FaceBook or all those other creepy outfits who harvest your data for profit. So there is that.

This is a good game of chess. I think Apple is playing several moves ahead of you.

Actually i've heard that Apple isn't giving foreign governments any flack over this issue at all, just the US government. That tells me that this is about optics, not security.

[Sanlmar]

Mumbles up a link for me, 4D. That would be pretty amazing.

[devidee]

https://www.morningstar.com/news/dow...r-iphones.html

[FPS_Russia]

Rush vs Druff

[Dan Druff]

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/art...se_129794.html

[4Dragons]

Mumbles up a link for me, 4D. That would be pretty amazing.

Sorry it took awhile for this to go to print. I can sometimes be ahead of the curve of people like you.


While it defies U.S. government, Apple abides by China's orders — and reaps big rewards

[sonatine]

If anyones curious about what I was talking about:

http://securityaffairs.co/wordpress/...k-iphones.html

The first I heard about decapping was when the Euro crimefags used it to mitigate 'smart chips' in credit cards but it doesnt take much imagination to apply it to pretty much every chip/firmware compromise tactic you can imagine.