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    I was watching Netflix during radio show, only commented on a poker segment I saw during chat.

    My understanding is ISIS does have plans to infiltrate us. fuck em. many that have worked hard to stop Christians from muslin countries from coming. unless you believe in Allah, you don't get in.. have been over ridden by dumb US PC policy.

    My great grandparents immigrated to this country after our civil war, but they were peasants in their homeland, not looking to blow us or any body up. these terrorists need to be stopped as are the multinational corporations who export our jobs for tax brakes.

    It was hard enough to fight the Hitler, and the Japs that bombed Pearl Harbor, now we have people wanting us to import terrorist cell groups. Most or all of these idiots never served a day in the US military.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    If we simply let Syrians come here at this point who claim refugee status, ISIS could easily sneak in a large number of operatives, and we could have another Paris incident on our hands fairly soon (or perhaps even worse).

    Basically when you have a strong and growing terror organization out of Syria threatening to attack the US, you don't let a shitload of Syrians into your country and assume everything will turn out fine.
    Druff, Stop drinking the koolaid bullshit served by the GOP scaremongers on this matter. Because we currently don't do as you say here. In fact, Republicans who were or are currently charged with national security matters who also served in the W's administration think the plan recently passed by the House is unnecessary and would increase national security risk. Here is a passage from a FB post sent out by the Congressman from my district mentioning this:

    https://www.facebook.com/BetoORourke...59516920780827

    My first and most important priority is the security and safety of the people of the United States. It is with this in mind that I have spent the last week reviewing our refugee screening protocols and meeting with federal law enforcement and intelligence community leadership responsible for protecting our country. I have also sought the counsel of subject matter experts; listened to the questions asked and comments made by my colleagues; and read and listened to the thoughts and concerns of the people I represent.

    All of this has convinced me that a proposed change to the current refugee screening process (H.R. 4038, aka the “American SAFE Act”) is not only unnecessary; it is counterproductive and will potentially undermine the security of this country. The last two Secretaries of Homeland Security, including Michael Chertoff, who served under President George W. Bush, say that "the process that is currently in place is thorough and robust and, so long as it is fully implemented and not diluted, it will allow us to safely admit the most vulnerable refugees while protecting the American people." H.R. 4038 jeopardizes that goal.

    Our process for reviewing refugee applications is rigorous and effective. It takes 18-24 months to review an application, and only a small minority of those who apply are accepted. Of the 23,000 Syrian refugees referred to the United States since 2011 by the U.N. High Commission on Refugees, only 7,000 made it to a second stage of our review process. Of those, only 2,000 were admitted to the U.S. And those were the most vulnerable - the children, the old and the families fleeing brutality and torture. Only 2% of them were single males of working age.

    ...

    In addition, FBI Director James Comey says this legislation is “counterproductive to national security.”
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    Also, let's put the number of refugees that the U.S. is planning to admit by EOY 2106 (an additional 8,000, to a total of 10,000). This graphic will help.

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    Seriously, get a grip, you reactionary fearmongerers! You're worse than this guy:

     

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    Because the GOP's reaction to the Paris attacks is just politics to gin up votes next year among the xenophobes and racists.

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    Were Republicans cowardly or unethical not to go along with [convicting Trump in the second impeachment Senate trial]? No. The smart move was to reject it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gordman View Post

    Guess how many refugees Saudi Arabia accepted?

    ZERO

    This article obliterates that bullshit claim:
    http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/8175924

    But I'll include a passage from it here so that even the laziest among you can easily be schooled on the matter.

    Over the past several months, we have been constantly fed graphics and analysis like the one below from Luay Al-Khatteeb, a fellow of the Brookings Institution. They have indicated that Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Qatar, and the UAE have apparently taken zero Syrian refugees. The claim has been cited by nearly every Western publication. A cursory search returns venerable sources including Foreign Policy, the Washington Post, and CNN all falling for the myth.

    The data source of all of these publications seems to be the UN High Commission of Refugees (UNHCR) itself, which notes that over 4,000,000 refugees have been registered by the UNHCR in Egypt, Iraq, Jordan, Lebanon, and Turkey. None of these refugees are registered in any of the Gulf States, including Saudi Arabia.

    However, a look at Saudi Arabia's UNHCR page has a few curious footnotes that Western publications are conveniently omitting. The UNHCR counts refugees by noting only those "persons recognized as refugees under the 1951 UN Convention/1967 Protocol, the 1969 OAU Convention, in accordance with the UNHCR Statute, persons granted a complementary form of protection and those granted temporary protection." Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Qatar, and the UAE are not parties to any of the UN protocols on refugees, and so through this technicality, they, along with most of their refugees, are excluded from many refugee counting mechanisms.

    And as if the statement that Saudi Arabia has not taken any refugees were not preposterous enough, with the lack of a "Great Arabian Wall" of sorts, numerous commentators have conveniently overlooked the fact that the noted Gulf States are not included in maps of UNHCR progress reports like this one. One would think that such maps might raise the question, why aren't any of the Gulf States included in the graphics? And given their exclusion from many UN refugee graphics, one might also ask, is the absence of Syrian refugees in Saudi Arabia really due to an astonishingly secure border? Or just a technicality that pundits have deceitfully misinterpreted?

    Somehow, even in today's "enlightened" age where information on human rights is democratized and widely disseminated, the complete absence of Syrian refugees in Saudi Arabia is more plausible than the idea of human misinterpretation of statistics. It's an inconvenient truth that needs to be addressed.

    With Saudi Arabia's non-signatory status, the Syrians residing in Saudi Arabia are classified as "Arab brothers and sisters in distress" instead of refugees covered by UN treaties. According to Nabil Othman, the UNHCR regional representative to the Gulf region, there were 500,000 Syrian refugees in Saudi Arabia at the time of his statement. The government itself of Saudi Arabia has stated that it has, over the past five years since the start of the conflict hosted 2.5 million refugees.
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    Were Republicans cowardly or unethical not to go along with [convicting Trump in the second impeachment Senate trial]? No. The smart move was to reject it.

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    Give the flood of idiocy coming from the conservative Islamohobes in this thread, one more this AM for good measure. And the edification comes from a fellow Republican, an Oklahoma Congressman, and Operation Iaqi Freedom veteran. (Yeah. He fought over there.) Read it and get your heads out of your asses.

    http://www.rawstory.com/2015/11/repu...lock-refugees/

    Republican Rep. Steve Russell of Oklahoma laid into his party for its stance on Syrian refugees, saying that turning away people seeking solace from violent terrorist groups hands victory to Islamic State jihadists.

    Russell, a combat veteran of Operation Iraqi Freedom and 21-year career soldier with the Army, spoke Wednesday to Congress and decried anti-refugee rhetoric and moves by mostly-conservative state governors to bar fleeing migrants from settling in their states.

    “While I have tried to focus my comments on actions that we should take to eliminate ISIS, one action we should not take is to become like them. America is a lamp that lights the horizon of civilized and free mankind,” he said on the House floor.

    “The Statue of Liberty cannot have a stiff arm. Her arm must continue to keep the torch burning brightly,” Russell continued. “If we use our passions, anger, and fear to snuff out her flame by xenophobic and knee-jerk policy, the enemy wins. We have played into their hands, period.”

    Russell also pointed out there is a multi-layer system in place for vetting refugees, and also noted that only 1,900 Syrian refugees have come to the United States in the last four years, most of whom are women and children. He then illustrated the similarity between many conservatives’ current stance on refugees and the views held during World War II about people fleeing the Nazis in Europe.

    I want you to listen carefully to these statements by Members of Congress in response to a refugee bill–not an illegal immigration bill or permanent residents, but refugees, a refugee bill. Listen to these comments by Members of Congress about people fleeing for their lives.

    Fighting immigration is ‘the best vote-getting argument . . . The politician can beat his breast and proclaim his loyalty to America.’

    ‘He can tell the unemployed man that he is out of work because some alien has a job.’

    Here is another one:

    Congress must ‘protect the youth of America from this foreign invasion.’

    And how about this one?

    ‘American children have first claim to America’s charity.’

    There are many more, but these quotes were from 1939. The refugee bill was not for Muslim and Christian Syrians or Iraqi Muslims, Christians and Yazidis; it was for German Jews. While it was true that Germany was, indeed, a threat, the refugees were not. They were 20,000 children.

    Not only did that bill of 1939 not pass, but that Congress, with the same speech and rhetoric that I have been hearing in recent days in this august Chamber, Mr. Speaker, passed hurdle after hurdle in 1939 to make it more difficult for refugees to enter. They were, unfortunately, successful.
    He then talked about the need to defend American principles.

    We must not become them. They win if we give up who we are, and even more so, without a fight.

    We guard our way of life by vigilance. We must be watchful. We have to have each others’ back and be alert to dangers around us. We must speak up when we see something unusual. By maintaining who we are amidst the threat, amidst the hatred, amidst the trials, we win.

    Patrick Henry did not say, “Give me safety or give me death,” but, rather, “Give me liberty,” implying that he was willing to lose his life to defend that liberty.

    We have defended our way of life, Mr. Speaker, for 240 years. Now we as Americans must defend it again.

    We must defend it when the critic sitting on the couch in his underwear eating his bag of cheese puffs is pecking out hatred and vitriol on some social media.

    We must defend it and have courage when voters are caught up with sincere passion, demanding security that also might kill our liberty.

    We must defend it with our warriors who have worked hard to keep the fight off our shores by being vigilant and aware at home and while looking after their families who don’t have them to protect them.

    We will always have threats, but liberty, when lost, takes generations, if ever, to regain.
    And for our pity's sake, please don't make me have to bitch slap you anymore on this issue with more facts and common sense like I've just done.
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    Is he s republican like McCain and Graham because they vote with the dem,s most of the time...

    O guess during we2 we should of taken.in thousands of military age German males??? And there chucks too even though they had a history of blowing themselves up.

    Liberalism is a mental disorder..

    Mumbles must of Horton goose stepping orders from the Borg queens hive that any one with common sense is a racist and a Xeno phobe..

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by anchordraw View Post
    I was watching Netflix during radio show, only commented on a poker segment I saw during chat.

    My understanding is ISIS does have plans to infiltrate us. fuck em. many that have worked hard to stop Christians from muslin countries from coming. unless you believe in Allah, you don't get in.. have been over ridden by dumb US PC policy.

    My great grandparents immigrated to this country after our civil war, but they were peasants in their homeland, not looking to blow us or any body up. these terrorists need to be stopped as are the multinational corporations who export our jobs for tax brakes.

    It was hard enough to fight the Hitler, and the Japs that bombed Pearl Harbor, now we have people wanting us to import terrorist cell groups. Most or all of these idiots never served a day in the US military.
    We actually have the moral authority to use limited strategic nuclear strikes..

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by thesparten View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by anchordraw View Post
    I was watching Netflix during radio show, only commented on a poker segment I saw during chat.

    My understanding is ISIS does have plans to infiltrate us. fuck em. many that have worked hard to stop Christians from muslin countries from coming. unless you believe in Allah, you don't get in.. have been over ridden by dumb US PC policy.

    My great grandparents immigrated to this country after our civil war, but they were peasants in their homeland, not looking to blow us or any body up. these terrorists need to be stopped as are the multinational corporations who export our jobs for tax brakes.

    It was hard enough to fight the Hitler, and the Japs that bombed Pearl Harbor, now we have people wanting us to import terrorist cell groups. Most or all of these idiots never served a day in the US military.
    We actually have the moral authority to use limited strategic nuclear strikes..
    Literally the only reason the West has anything to do with those backwards sand hillbillies is because of the oil. Nuking the areas in question does not allow you continued access to that oil. This is a non-starter.

     
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      thesparten: Agreed.. Obama dismantled our humane hydrogen bombs

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4Dragons View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by thesparten View Post

    We actually have the moral authority to use limited strategic nuclear strikes..
    Literally the only reason the West has anything to do with those backwards sand hillbillies is because of the oil. Nuking the areas in question does not allow you continued access to that oil. This is a non-starter.
    What is the half life of the fall out from a good old fashioned hydrogen bomb?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4Dragons View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by thesparten View Post

    We actually have the moral authority to use limited strategic nuclear strikes..
    Literally the only reason the West has anything to do with those backwards sand hillbillies is because of the oil. Nuking the areas in question does not allow you continued access to that oil. This is a non-starter.
    The guy that made the hydrogen bomb, did it for humane reasons..

    Obama, dismantled them.

    25 dead in Mali this morning..

    A black guy in painters union came in the store and is a major trump supporter also a Dominican uber driver loves trump..

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    Quote Originally Posted by shortbuspoker View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by 4Dragons View Post

    Literally the only reason the West has anything to do with those backwards sand hillbillies is because of the oil. Nuking the areas in question does not allow you continued access to that oil. This is a non-starter.
    What is the half life of the fall out from a good old fashioned hydrogen bomb?
    The N bomb is supposed to be the one that you can re-habitate in 25, H bombs are still like 50. The other problem with nukes is that popping one in that area, China has said that if any of that fallout hits them, they'll consider it as a direct attack on China.

     
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    Your case has been made..

    As regards to China we should do the same to them with regards to there MASSIVE!!!!! AUTHENTICALLY Toxic pollution.. well.before we start taxing our citizens, lol..

    Obama is playing for the other side.. even if he is wearing our jersey..

    Between Missouri and all the university,s and from a sample of posters here. I expect a government sanctioned book burning.law soon.

    Before u ate your breakfast this morning, have u thanked our brave and glorious leader for what he has provided for u??

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4Dragons View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by shortbuspoker View Post

    What is the half life of the fall out from a good old fashioned hydrogen bomb?
    The N bomb is supposed to be the one that you can re-habitate in 25, H bombs are still like 50. The other problem with nukes is that popping one in that area, China has said that if any of that fallout hits them, they'll consider it as a direct attack on China.
    China is a paper tiger imo. They can't get into an armed conflict with us because it would crush their economy win or lose. The "communist" leaders in china love the wealth that they are amassing and wouldn't want to lose it. Like it or not, our two economies are inextricably intertwined at this point.

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    75percent of Isis targets that were marked by pilots were vetoed by Obama.. we're doing nothing but hitting sand dunes...

    Your all poker players and gamblers and street wise.. he is doing the "okey dokey" with us and wants them to accomplish there ideological means.. I mean really..

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    Quote Originally Posted by thesparten View Post
    Is he s republican like McCain and Graham because they vote with the dem,s most of the time...

    O guess during we2 we should of taken.in thousands of military age German males??? And there chucks too even though they had a history of blowing themselves up.

    Liberalism is a mental disorder..

    Mumbles must of Horton goose stepping orders from the Borg queens hive that any one with common sense is a racist and a Xeno phobe..
    Sniffing for logic in your argument here...

     

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    Were Republicans cowardly or unethical not to go along with [convicting Trump in the second impeachment Senate trial]? No. The smart move was to reject it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shortbuspoker View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by 4Dragons View Post

    The N bomb is supposed to be the one that you can re-habitate in 25, H bombs are still like 50. The other problem with nukes is that popping one in that area, China has said that if any of that fallout hits them, they'll consider it as a direct attack on China.
    China is a paper tiger imo. They can't get into an armed conflict with us because it would crush their economy win or lose. The "communist" leaders in china love the wealth that they are amassing and wouldn't want to lose it. Like it or not, our two economies are inextricably intertwined at this point.
    China could shrug off 500,000,000 people and be better off for not having to feed them anymore. Mao did it once already not long ago to 60,000,000 and no fucks were given. The actual best bet would be to pull China into this thing head first so they spend some collateral in this mess. They get hit by their own Uyghur Muslims, but they pretty much have a kill everyone in a 5 mile area stance on them so no offspring survive to avenge the death of their parents thing going on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thesparten View Post
    Before u ate your breakfast this morning, have u thanked our brave and glorious leader for what he has provided for u??
    Every day I thank God for being lucky enough to live in the freest country in the world. I also thank him for the fact that you live nowhere near my daughters.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by 4Dragons View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by shortbuspoker View Post

    China is a paper tiger imo. They can't get into an armed conflict with us because it would crush their economy win or lose. The "communist" leaders in china love the wealth that they are amassing and wouldn't want to lose it. Like it or not, our two economies are inextricably intertwined at this point.
    China could shrug off 500,000,000 people and be better off for not having to feed them anymore. Mao did it once already not long ago to 60,000,000 and no fucks were given. The actual best bet would be to pull China into this thing head first so they spend some collateral in this mess. They get hit by their own Uyghur Muslims, but they pretty much have a kill everyone in a 5 mile area stance on them so no offspring survive to avenge the death of their parents thing going on.
    sounds like china are big fans of tupac

    "If an injury has to be done to a man it should be so severe that his vengeance need not be feared."

    i believe he said that on his makaveli cd

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jayjami View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by thesparten View Post
    Before u ate your breakfast this morning, have u thanked our brave and glorious leader for what he has provided for u??
    Every day I thank God for being lucky enough to live in the freest country in the world. I also thank him for the fact that you live nowhere near my daughters.

    Because thesparten drugs and rapes women?

     
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