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    I think the Democratic ticket will have Biden and Bernie on it. No Clinton.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FPS_Russia View Post
    There's also a tiny part of me that thinks Trump could get elected and be amazing. He'd have to ignore the radical right for sure. I actually think Trump may lean a bit more left than he lets on. There's a large segment of liberal voters who want the southern border secured and are neither racist nor pro diversity n-word lovers and nobody's talking about it. This is who will decide the next election imo.
    100percent right.... here in new york only govert workers and extremists and die hards like sanders or hill ... everybody else even the welfare class want trump.. unemployed or underemployed blacks and p.r. want trump...

    He has a lot more support in democratic enclaves then there telling u..

    Trump has more women working for him then most and at higher wages but the average femenist it doesnt count to them..but to the average democratic/republican voter It does...

    My conservative friends tell me trump isnt conservative my progressive friends tell me he is too far to the right..most people say he aint preety but he is right on the issues...

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    Trump is just a showman with no real plan.

    He is doing well right now because many people are sick of politicians and their usual BS rhetoric, and appreciate someone who appears to cut through the BS and tell it like it is.

    The problem is that Trump really has no solution to the problems he talks about, and in many cases he talks about things in overly simplistic terms, which sound good on the surface but would be very complex and problematic to actually reform.

    I believe that his initial decision to run for President was just a gimmick to get attention (and stay relevant in the public eye), and then he accidentally stumbled into high poll numbers and thought, "Wow, how great would it be if I actually got elected?"

    That's why he was super-outrageous at the beginning, but has since toned it down some.

    My fear with Trump is that he will have absolutely no clue how to be President, which is a completely different challenge than running for-profit corporations. I feel he will end up being an embarrassment to America, and screw up a lot more things than he fixes.

    Now, if we had a straight-talking politician who actually possessed the skills to be President, AND had a good plan for America, then I wouldn't mind some bluster or controversy in his public statements. In fact, they would be refreshing.

    But simply grabbing attention and saying what certain people want to hear doesn't make someone a good Presidential candidate.

    Trump is also winning at the moment because the Repubican side has failed to put up an exciting candidate against him. I complained about this long before Trump entered the picture. While other Republican friends were fawning over Rubio, Cruz, and/or Walker, I smelled danger for the party.

    Pooh, I am not at all a RINO. You know that. I just don't support crappy candidates.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Trump is just a showman with no real plan.

    He is doing well right now because many people are sick of politicians and their usual BS rhetoric, and appreciate someone who appears to cut through the BS and tell it like it is.

    The problem is that Trump really has no solution to the problems he talks about, and in many cases he talks about things in overly simplistic terms, which sound good on the surface but would be very complex and problematic to actually reform.

    I believe that his initial decision to run for President was just a gimmick to get attention (and stay relevant in the public eye), and then he accidentally stumbled into high poll numbers and thought, "Wow, how great would it be if I actually got elected?"

    That's why he was super-outrageous at the beginning, but has since toned it down some.

    My fear with Trump is that he will have absolutely no clue how to be President, which is a completely different challenge than running for-profit corporations. I feel he will end up being an embarrassment to America, and screw up a lot more things than he fixes.

    Now, if we had a straight-talking politician who actually possessed the skills to be President, AND had a good plan for America, then I wouldn't mind some bluster or controversy in his public statements. In fact, they would be refreshing.

    But simply grabbing attention and saying what certain people want to hear doesn't make someone a good Presidential candidate.

    Trump is also winning at the moment because the Repubican side has failed to put up an exciting candidate against him. I complained about this long before Trump entered the picture. While other Republican friends were fawning over Rubio, Cruz, and/or Walker, I smelled danger for the party.

    Pooh, I am not at all a RINO. You know that. I just don't support crappy candidates.
    And obama??????

    Trump WILL GET RESULTS EVEN IF HE JUST DELAGATES RESPONSABILITY...

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    Quote Originally Posted by DRK Star View Post
    I think the Democratic ticket will have Biden and Bernie on it. No Clinton.
    biden and c kennedy. book it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Trump is just a showman with no real plan.

    He is doing well right now because many people are sick of politicians and their usual BS rhetoric, and appreciate someone who appears to cut through the BS and tell it like it is.

    The problem is that Trump really has no solution to the problems he talks about, and in many cases he talks about things in overly simplistic terms, which sound good on the surface but would be very complex and problematic to actually reform.

    I believe that his initial decision to run for President was just a gimmick to get attention (and stay relevant in the public eye), and then he accidentally stumbled into high poll numbers and thought, "Wow, how great would it be if I actually got elected?"

    That's why he was super-outrageous at the beginning, but has since toned it down some.

    My fear with Trump is that he will have absolutely no clue how to be President, which is a completely different challenge than running for-profit corporations. I feel he will end up being an embarrassment to America, and screw up a lot more things than he fixes.

    Now, if we had a straight-talking politician who actually possessed the skills to be President, AND had a good plan for America, then I wouldn't mind some bluster or controversy in his public statements. In fact, they would be refreshing.

    But simply grabbing attention and saying what certain people want to hear doesn't make someone a good Presidential candidate.

    Trump is also winning at the moment because the Repubican side has failed to put up an exciting candidate against him. I complained about this long before Trump entered the picture. While other Republican friends were fawning over Rubio, Cruz, and/or Walker, I smelled danger for the party.

    Pooh, I am not at all a RINO. You know that. I just don't support crappy candidates.
    Shut it the fuck down. You acknowledged he is above 50% to get GOP. It's a done deal. Either him Carson or Fiornia god forbid. Embrace your inner Republican and hope for the best. It's too bad your vote doesn't count in that state.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Trump is just a showman with no real plan.

    He is doing well right now because many people are sick of politicians and their usual BS rhetoric, and appreciate someone who appears to cut through the BS and tell it like it is.

    The problem is that Trump really has no solution to the problems he talks about, and in many cases he talks about things in overly simplistic terms, which sound good on the surface but would be very complex and problematic to actually reform.

    I believe that his initial decision to run for President was just a gimmick to get attention (and stay relevant in the public eye), and then he accidentally stumbled into high poll numbers and thought, "Wow, how great would it be if I actually got elected?"

    That's why he was super-outrageous at the beginning, but has since toned it down some.

    My fear with Trump is that he will have absolutely no clue how to be President, which is a completely different challenge than running for-profit corporations. I feel he will end up being an embarrassment to America, and screw up a lot more things than he fixes.

    Now, if we had a straight-talking politician who actually possessed the skills to be President, AND had a good plan for America, then I wouldn't mind some bluster or controversy in his public statements. In fact, they would be refreshing.

    But simply grabbing attention and saying what certain people want to hear doesn't make someone a good Presidential candidate.

    Trump is also winning at the moment because the Repubican side has failed to put up an exciting candidate against him. I complained about this long before Trump entered the picture. While other Republican friends were fawning over Rubio, Cruz, and/or Walker, I smelled danger for the party.

    Pooh, I am not at all a RINO. You know that. I just don't support crappy candidates.

    Were you shocked at Boehner quitting? There is a reason for that. I don't know exactly what sparked it, but I could suspect that if Trump wasn't a front runner in this thing that Boehner wouldn't have stepped down. I mean this is a major seed change and not to be taken lightly. Whatever those dynamics are, they don't fare well for the Republican establishment politicians. The only thing I can make of any of it from the polls is that the top 3 candidates are all non politicians; Trump, Fiorina and Carson. From what i'm hearing from the Right is that Boehner was always saying 'we can't do anything about Obama because we don't control the House', well now they do, and the Senate and they still haven't done shit about him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4Dragons View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Trump is just a showman with no real plan.

    He is doing well right now because many people are sick of politicians and their usual BS rhetoric, and appreciate someone who appears to cut through the BS and tell it like it is.

    The problem is that Trump really has no solution to the problems he talks about, and in many cases he talks about things in overly simplistic terms, which sound good on the surface but would be very complex and problematic to actually reform.

    I believe that his initial decision to run for President was just a gimmick to get attention (and stay relevant in the public eye), and then he accidentally stumbled into high poll numbers and thought, "Wow, how great would it be if I actually got elected?"

    That's why he was super-outrageous at the beginning, but has since toned it down some.

    My fear with Trump is that he will have absolutely no clue how to be President, which is a completely different challenge than running for-profit corporations. I feel he will end up being an embarrassment to America, and screw up a lot more things than he fixes.

    Now, if we had a straight-talking politician who actually possessed the skills to be President, AND had a good plan for America, then I wouldn't mind some bluster or controversy in his public statements. In fact, they would be refreshing.

    But simply grabbing attention and saying what certain people want to hear doesn't make someone a good Presidential candidate.

    Trump is also winning at the moment because the Repubican side has failed to put up an exciting candidate against him. I complained about this long before Trump entered the picture. While other Republican friends were fawning over Rubio, Cruz, and/or Walker, I smelled danger for the party.

    Pooh, I am not at all a RINO. You know that. I just don't support crappy candidates.

    Were you shocked at Boehner quitting? There is a reason for that. I don't know exactly what sparked it, but I could suspect that if Trump wasn't a front runner in this thing that Boehner wouldn't have stepped down. I mean this is a major seed change and not to be taken lightly. Whatever those dynamics are, they don't fare well for the Republican establishment politicians. The only thing I can make of any of it from the polls is that the top 3 candidates are all non politicians; Trump, Fiorina and Carson. From what i'm hearing from the Right is that Boehner was always saying 'we can't do anything about Obama because we don't control the House', well now they do, and the Senate and they still haven't done shit about him.
    We are getting Boehner 2.0 with that cocksucker from Cali. Another fucking RINO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pooh View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by 4Dragons View Post


    Were you shocked at Boehner quitting? There is a reason for that. I don't know exactly what sparked it, but I could suspect that if Trump wasn't a front runner in this thing that Boehner wouldn't have stepped down. I mean this is a major seed change and not to be taken lightly. Whatever those dynamics are, they don't fare well for the Republican establishment politicians. The only thing I can make of any of it from the polls is that the top 3 candidates are all non politicians; Trump, Fiorina and Carson. From what i'm hearing from the Right is that Boehner was always saying 'we can't do anything about Obama because we don't control the House', well now they do, and the Senate and they still haven't done shit about him.
    We are getting Boehner 2.0 with that cocksucker from Cali. Another fucking RINO.

    It's almost as if they're taking turns with the nameplate so they can tell their grand kids that grandpa was Speaker of The House. Something else is going on here, it just may take a few years before it reveals itself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4Dragons View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Trump is just a showman with no real plan.

    He is doing well right now because many people are sick of politicians and their usual BS rhetoric, and appreciate someone who appears to cut through the BS and tell it like it is.

    The problem is that Trump really has no solution to the problems he talks about, and in many cases he talks about things in overly simplistic terms, which sound good on the surface but would be very complex and problematic to actually reform.

    I believe that his initial decision to run for President was just a gimmick to get attention (and stay relevant in the public eye), and then he accidentally stumbled into high poll numbers and thought, "Wow, how great would it be if I actually got elected?"

    That's why he was super-outrageous at the beginning, but has since toned it down some.

    My fear with Trump is that he will have absolutely no clue how to be President, which is a completely different challenge than running for-profit corporations. I feel he will end up being an embarrassment to America, and screw up a lot more things than he fixes.

    Now, if we had a straight-talking politician who actually possessed the skills to be President, AND had a good plan for America, then I wouldn't mind some bluster or controversy in his public statements. In fact, they would be refreshing.

    But simply grabbing attention and saying what certain people want to hear doesn't make someone a good Presidential candidate.

    Trump is also winning at the moment because the Repubican side has failed to put up an exciting candidate against him. I complained about this long before Trump entered the picture. While other Republican friends were fawning over Rubio, Cruz, and/or Walker, I smelled danger for the party.

    Pooh, I am not at all a RINO. You know that. I just don't support crappy candidates.

    Were you shocked at Boehner quitting? There is a reason for that. I don't know exactly what sparked it, but I could suspect that if Trump wasn't a front runner in this thing that Boehner wouldn't have stepped down. I mean this is a major seed change and not to be taken lightly. Whatever those dynamics are, they don't fare well for the Republican establishment politicians. The only thing I can make of any of it from the polls is that the top 3 candidates are all non politicians; Trump, Fiorina and Carson. From what i'm hearing from the Right is that Boehner was always saying 'we can't do anything about Obama because we don't control the House', well now they do, and the Senate and they still haven't done shit about him.
    100 percent right. A non establishment republican will win..

    The support is overwhelming for them even among moderate democrates and ever growing self described liberals..only the progressive agenda and narrative gets out..those in the know are very aware of that..

    Whether its fiorina or trump is up for grabs. Carson is out but a very respectable man and intelect..

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4Dragons View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Pooh View Post

    We are getting Boehner 2.0 with that cocksucker from Cali. Another fucking RINO.

    It's almost as if they're taking turns with the nameplate so they can tell their grand kids that grandpa was Speaker of The House. Something else is going on here, it just may take a few years before it reveals itself.
    Honestly I heard his life work was trying to get the Pope to come to US. Once it was done he was done (as you can see his reaction a day or two ago) aka he cried like the bitch he is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pooh View Post
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    It's almost as if they're taking turns with the nameplate so they can tell their grand kids that grandpa was Speaker of The House. Something else is going on here, it just may take a few years before it reveals itself.
    Honestly I heard his life work was trying to get the Pope to come to US. Once it was done he was done (as you can see his reaction a day or two ago) aka he cried like the bitch he is.
    There was actually an insurection goong on and he asked if he could stay leader untill after this marxist pope..

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    Quote Originally Posted by thesparten View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Pooh View Post

    Honestly I heard his life work was trying to get the Pope to come to US. Once it was done he was done (as you can see his reaction a day or two ago) aka he cried like the bitch he is.
    There was actually an insurection goong on and he asked if he could stay leader untill after this marxist pope..

    The Pope isn't a Marxist. He's an old school Pope. Like 1200 years before Marx was born type Pope.

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    We've seen these outside candidates from time to time, they always fizzle. Herman Cain actually had a bigger lead in 2011 around this point then he imploded. Newt Gingrich was the next outsider (out of office for 15 years) and he fizzled. Pat Buchanan, Ross Perot, etc... they always tank.

    It's going to be Jeb when all said and done, unless Trump does invest a billion dollars in the campaign. I doubt he will.

    The problem I have with Trump as time goes on, is he says the same shit over and over. He is terribly unprepared in the debates. It's got nothing to do with 'speaking from the heart' or not being political correct. It has every to do with he is intellectually lazy. Your whole platform can't be 'I'll figure it out when I am elected because I cut great deals'. You need much more than that.

    I think the next debate will be make or break for Trump. He likely will be around 25% in the polls, and he is either going to 30+ or single digits. If he comes out again rambling all over the place he will be toast. People forget Trump is 70 years old next year. If you listen to clips of him from even 5 years ago, he sounds much different than today. He may actually start having signs of early dementia.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by 4Dragons View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by thesparten View Post

    There was actually an insurection goong on and he asked if he could stay leader untill after this marxist pope..

    The Pope isn't a Marxist. He's an old school Pope. Like 1200 years before Marx was born type Pope.
    No he is a marxist...

    Let immigrants go to the vatican. They have acces to over a gazillion dollars(the next number over a trillion) give that away...noooo he complains about air conditioning cousing global warming and were not taxed enough..not about abortion or the selling of baby parts. Not christions and 1k old churches being destroyed not real slavery or declining wages nooooo..
    He is like the. Corupt popes from the dark ages and i went to catholic high school cardinal spellmen..

    Capatilsm lifted and educated more people out of gutter then every socialist and marxist combined throughout history...


    Re.. mother theresa speach to the u.s. She was great!!!!!!

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    If Trump goes down due to something fucked up please let it be Ivanka porn. That may help American become great again.

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    Id eat that ass over jlo's ass anyday of the week.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by tgull View Post
    We've seen these outside candidates from time to time, they always fizzle. Herman Cain actually had a bigger lead in 2011 around this point then he imploded. Newt Gingrich was the next outsider (out of office for 15 years) and he fizzled. Pat Buchanan, Ross Perot, etc... they always tank.

    It's going to be Jeb when all said and done, unless Trump does invest a billion dollars in the campaign. I doubt he will.

    The problem I have with Trump as time goes on, is he says the same shit over and over. He is terribly unprepared in the debates. It's got nothing to do with 'speaking from the heart' or not being political correct. It has every to do with he is intellectually lazy. Your whole platform can't be 'I'll figure it out when I am elected because I cut great deals'. You need much more than that.

    I think the next debate will be make or break for Trump. He likely will be around 25% in the polls, and he is either going to 30+ or single digits. If he comes out again rambling all over the place he will be toast. People forget Trump is 70 years old next year. If you listen to clips of him from even 5 years ago, he sounds much different than today. He may actually start having signs of early dementia.
    The only competent post in this thread thus far, but classifying Newt Gingrich as an outsider?


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    Quote Originally Posted by big dick View Post
    Id eat that ass over jlo's ass anyday of the week.
    The problem is I still see Donald's face in her, and it disturbs me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by big dick View Post
    Id eat that ass over jlo's ass anyday of the week.
    The problem is I still see Donald's face in her, and it disturbs me.
    Brother, i love u man but on this one your tilted and it shows...

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