Is there such a thing as interesting effects anymore? Do people walk out of theaters marveling over how good the CGI was?Originally Posted by verminaard
Maybe I'm becoming a hipster, but I find myself doing the opposite. Green screen movies destroy my immersion and constantly distract me. Overreliance on this stuff is making everything look so fake, almost like a video game.
The best effects are ones that don't let me notice that they're effects at all.
Have you seen Mad Max? Amazing visuals and effects that shit all over Jurassic World.Is there such a thing as interesting effects anymore? Do people walk out of theaters marveling over how good the CGI was?
Maybe I'm becoming a hipster, but I find myself doing the opposite. Green screen movies destroy my immersion and constantly distract me. Overreliance on this stuff is making everything look so fake, almost like a video game.
The best effects are ones that don't let me notice that they're effects at all.
I have not, but my understanding is that most of that stuff is practical effects and great stunt work.
+1 Mad Max Fury Road, a must see if you like action.
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No there are not. I'm in complete agreement. Back in the day when they were figuring this shit out it was kind of neat. Terminator 2 and the original Jurasic Park as two good examples.Is there such a thing as interesting effects anymore? Do people walk out of theaters marveling over how good the CGI was?
Maybe I'm becoming a hipster, but I find myself doing the opposite. Green screen movies destroy my immersion and constantly distract me. Overreliance on this stuff is making everything look so fake, almost like a video game.
The best effects are ones that don't let me notice that they're effects at all.
Then we got the Star Wars Prequils. They should have shut it all down then.
I'm about 15 years late to the party on this one, but just watched Training Day for the first time.
Every time I've seen Denzel he always plays the good guy, so it was nice to see his ability playing the bad guy in this one. I much preferred Denzel's character in this - as opposed to Ethan Hawke's straight edge cop character - and was rooting for him to win as the crooked cop. It's always the same in the movies though: no matter how unlikely or undeserved; the good guy always wins in the end, and it's so bloody predictable. I find myself rooting for the villain all the time when watching movies nowadays, because it never happens. It's as if they're programming us to associate with the hero and empathise with them and their morals, so that we emulate their characteristics irl and be good little obedient citizens.
Denzel was also a great bad guy in American Gangster.
Check it out next time you get the chance.
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Is there such a thing as interesting effects anymore? Do people walk out of theaters marveling over how good the CGI was?
Maybe I'm becoming a hipster, but I find myself doing the opposite. Green screen movies destroy my immersion and constantly distract me. Overreliance on this stuff is making everything look so fake, almost like a video game.
The best effects are ones that don't let me notice that they're effects at all.
You agree with this, Srsly?
I made a horrible mistake. My mother was watching my son so I decided to take my wife to Ipic and watch Mad Max. The reviews have been great. I buy premium plus seating which is weird because normally they are sold out if you buy the same day.... we order our food and a bottle of bubbly... the movie starts and I realize I bought tickets to Max.... not Mad Max.... it was the worst movie I have ever seen... Every cliche you can think of is in this movie... grown people were crying... it was so strange... they had "Mexican" kids who ended every sentence with "be." It was borderline racist... "Where you at be?" "What's up be?".... on the plus, their tater tots with bacon ketchup were on point
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I agree with a lot of it, yeah. I think he could have used some better examples to illustrate his point.
Peter Jackson gets a lot of flak for abusing CGI, and deservedly so (especially for the Hobbit trilogy), but he also knows how to blend vfx naturally when he wants to.
That's really what it should be used for imo, to enhance shots, not be the entire shot. I've never seen any of the Sherlock Holmes movies, but I'd guess that most people don't notice the CGI because it's usually being blended with real elements.
I got dragged to The Legend of Hercules, where for a lot of scenes the entire background was obviously CGI. These backgrounds weren't erupting volcanoes or floating cities, or anything that would be impossible to do practically. They were just typical landscapes. It stuck out like a sore thumb and was so unnecessary.
I believe that graph at the end of your video is a reference to the uncanny valley effect. Getting extremely close to realism isn't good enough. In fact, sometimes that just makes it worse.
Our brains are really good at detecting that something is visually off, even if we can't put our finger on what exactly it is. You don't need to be any sort of expert on vfx to notice this stuff. You can just tell that it's fake. This applies to backgrounds, but also a ton of other things, like ragdoll phsyics, digital blood, and unnatural camera movement.
Unnatural camera movement annoys me a lot. That's when they use virtual cameras that float around in digital environments as if Superman was holding it. They also did this in Legend of Hercules a lot. You'll pick up on this too, even if you don't know anything about effects. You'll subconsciously notice that there's something artificial about the way the scene moves.
When I made the below video for Bluff,
one of my friends asked me "is that green screened?"
I said "Yeah, how could you tell?"
He said "I don't know. There's just something off about it."
I couldn't figure out what it was either. In hindsight, I think the main issue is that the background needed to be blurred more realistically. Of course, my friend didn't know anything about depth of field in cameras.
But his brain did.
People are subjected to cgi in the news all the time, but they don't realise it. It's crazy to think that almost everyone has been duped into believing that these digital android cartoons are real living entities: but here we are, living in times where 'uncanny' things on the tv are accepted as norm.
Just watched "The Million Dollar Deal". Technically, it was a TV documentary, but still excellent.
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just watched this low budget thriller called "it follows" it was pretty damn good.
http://www.nowvideo.sx/video/e281b40fda3a8
Just saw "THE GIVER"..
EXCELLENT MOVIE. KINDA REMINDED ME OF OBAMAWORLD OR HILLARYWORLD OR JEBWORLD
I really enjoyed The Giver too. It didn't get great reviews though. Maybe it failed to do the book justice. I wouldn't know, as I somehow avoided reading it in grade school.
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Anyway, I just saw Mission Impossible: Rogue Nation. I vividly recall watching the original movie when I was 11 and being blown away by it. It was one of the coolest action movies I had ever seen. I vaguely recall being disappointed by its sequel and disinterested in III. I never saw Ghost Protocol.
This movie was alright. In a way it felt like a return to form of the original film, with heists, spy shit and psychological twists rather than pure action schlock.
One thing that stood out to me was the sound. I usually don't notice this sort of thing, even though I frequently hear from filmmakers talk about how important (and often neglected) it is. The opening scene has Ethan holding on to a plane while it's taking off, and the sound of the wind made it pretty intense. There were a few other action scenes that featured noticeably impressive sound. My girlfriend remarked on this after the movie as well, and I hadn't mentioned it.
However, there was also a scene that used a shitty, cheesy sound effect that made me roll my eyes. While descending stairs in a car chase, Simon Pegg hits his head on the dashboard. It makes this exact sound:
I guess it was for comedic effect, but jesus christ.
The plot is pretty dumb, and none of the characters have convincing motives, especially a mysterious female character whose intentions aren't made clear until near the end. But it's an action movie, so whatever. It does it's job by being a fun ride and not completely stupid and incoherent.
I don't think it deserves the 93% rating on Rotten Tomatoes, but it wasn't bad.
Just saw this on Friday. Worth checking out for sure.
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