What do you buy you unbalanced freak of a son for his 21st birthday?

[gimmick]

So what's the logic with explosives? If you need to have a militia ready for all internal and external threats it would seem to be a hindrance that private citizens aren't allowed to stockpile explosives in their basements. And when it comes deterring home invasions you really can't go wrong with semtex.

Why is it ok for a civilian to own an anti materiel rifle but owning few hundred pounds of semtex isn't? For most sporting and hunting purposes they are roughly equal (semtex is way better for fishing though). For most families self defense needs i would even give a slight edge to semtex since it allows you to secure your home with an intricate booby trap network that gets the job done even when you're sleeping.

[garrett]

MURDERED 9 people who were attending CHURCH, and the kid only got a 1 million dollar bond. Means he can get out of jail tonight, for only $100,00.


He killed 9 people yet, his mom and dad can get him out of jail tonight for basically mortgaging 1/10th of their home ( guess)

Thats EASY bail for a 21 year old whose parents have assets. I am SHOCKED at a bail, should of been NO BAIL.

WHO IS THAT South Carolina Judge???

He should be FIRED

[limitles]

MURDERED 9 people who were attending CHURCH, and the kid only got a 1 million dollar bond. Means he can get out of jail tonight, for only $100,00.


He killed 9 people yet, his mom and dad can get him out of jail tonight for basically mortgaging 1/10th of their home ( guess)

Thats EASY bail for a 21 year old whose parents have assets. I am SHOCKED at a bail, should of been NO BAIL.

WHO IS THAT South Carolina Judge???

He should be SHOT

FYP

[GrenadaRoger]

[QUOTE=Lord of the Fraud;416906]

Oh and...

No doubt you'd also like to see this whole heinous episode removed from all media outlets ASAP.


But here, I'll remind you of the shooters name who was legally allowed to sit down in a church full of good family people and unload a barrage of hellfire just because he was 'legally' allowed to arm himself to his putrid brown teeth.


XXXXXX XXXX











Deal with it gif

Dealing with you is pointless imo, because your ego is fragile & involved too deeply.

However, I want to take this opportunity to explain further to the rest of the PFA community why gun owners usually think the shooter's name should not be repeated--there are shooters, such as this person and the shooters of both President's Kennedy & Regan, that are lonely, angry and looking to draw attention to themselves in a historic way---while there always will be a certain number of persons like that anywhere, there are some marginal instances where others are dissuaded from doing something similar if the others see the shooter's are not rewarded with the infamy they seek, but rather are brought to justice swiftly and without mercy---its not that gun owners wish to hide or forget the awfulness of the shooter's acts...

and I am sure many in the PFA community already know of and may follow this philosophy

personally, I believe this shooter should be terminated promptly

[adamantium]

[QUOTE=GrenadaRoger;417440]

Dealing with you is pointless imo, because your ego is fragile & involved too deeply.

However, I want to take this opportunity to explain further to the rest of the PFA community why gun owners usually think the shooter's name should not be repeated--there are shooters, such as this person and the shooters of both President's Kennedy & Regan, that are lonely, angry and looking to draw attention to themselves in a historic way---while there always will be a certain number of persons like that anywhere, there are some marginal instances where others are dissuaded from doing something similar if the others see the shooter's are not rewarded with the infamy they seek, but rather are brought to justice swiftly and without mercy---its not that gun owners wish to hide or forget the awfulness of the shooter's acts...

and I am sure many in the PFA community already know of and may follow this philosophy

personally, I believe this shooter should be terminated promptly

100% pure fucking drivel

[SrslySirius]

Dealing with you is pointless imo, because your ego is fragile & involved too deeply.

However, I want to take this opportunity to explain further to the rest of the PFA community why gun owners usually think the shooter's name should not be repeated--there are shooters, such as this person and the shooters of both President's Kennedy & Regan, that are lonely, angry and looking to draw attention to themselves in a historic way---while there always will be a certain number of persons like that anywhere, there are some marginal instances where others are dissuaded from doing something similar if the others see the shooter's are not rewarded with the infamy they seek, but rather are brought to justice swiftly and without mercy---its not that gun owners wish to hide or forget the awfulness of the shooter's acts...

and I am sure many in the PFA community already know of and may follow this philosophy

personally, I believe this shooter should be terminated promptly

[Lord of the Fraud]

Watched the court proceedings live and listened to the judge invite each of the family members to have their say while Roof listened on...that is a great part of your justice system btw........The same should be implemented in our own JS for the victims family to get a little of w/e off their chest.. Instead the judge can threaten them with contempt if they direct any words at all towards the defendant..

But what really stood out was the common theme that came out from the families towards Roof. And that was the word "forgiveness"

I'm not going to judge these people that have lost immediate family members during that massacre. But pretty much all of them spoke of mercy and forgiveness directly at the beast who just slaughtered their sons/daughters in freezing cold blood.


Now unless forgiveness is code for "I hope you burn in hell", then I can't even begin to fathom out where those family members are coming from.


Gordo, help me out here. What the actual fuck was that all about?

[Lord of the Fraud]

Also a bit of self hypocrisy from myself.

Always found the death penalty to be a gruesome method of justice in advanced nations.


But in some cases I'm calling for the judges in certain crimes to sentence these monsters to a long and painful death.


So to sum up. I've really no idea where my head stands when it comes to the death penalty.

[abrown83]

MURDERED 9 people who were attending CHURCH, and the kid only got a 1 million dollar bond. Means he can get out of jail tonight, for only $100,00.


He killed 9 people yet, his mom and dad can get him out of jail tonight for basically mortgaging 1/10th of their home ( guess)

Thats EASY bail for a 21 year old whose parents have assets. I am SHOCKED at a bail, should of been NO BAIL.

WHO IS THAT South Carolina Judge???

He should be FIRED

That's because he hasn't been charged with Murder yet. Just the weapons charge.

They have to get all the evidence together to file the Murder charges, and then I am sure there will be no bond.

[SrslySirius]

Also a bit of self hypocrisy from myself.

Always found the death penalty to be a gruesome method of justice in advanced nations.


But in some cases I'm calling for the judges in certain crimes to sentence these monsters to a long and painful death.


So to sum up. I've really no idea where my head stands when it comes to the death penalty.

I've had the same thoughts before.

The desire to see others suffer is barbaric. Few people enjoy watching others getting tortured, raped, executed, etc. But we're still emotional and primitive humans. When someone causes us pain, we often want revenge, to see them punished, to make ourselves feel better. That's not justice, really. It's an immoral sort of therapy.

Objectively, I think that's wrong. I don't think cruelty is ever justified. But I doubt I could be so rational if my family were victimized. I'm not strong enough. I might want to see horrible things happen to the people responsible.

I admire those people that have the fortitude to forgive.

[TUFFTURF]

At least I will have a "shooter's chance".....kinda like a fighter but with bullets

[4Dragons]

Oh they should immolate this kid.

[phantom]

Obviously, it will never happen, but it could be done over 20 or so years. You start by not allowing new sales. Then in 10 years you offer to buy certain types. Finally, you make the penalty huge. There would be some outcry and a lot of bluster, but people would fall in line eventually. It's very human to accept authority.

Regular citizens would fall in line.

Criminals wouldn't.

It would be a disaster.

Doesn't matter how "harsh" the penalties for gun ownership would be. The criminal element will not turn theirs in, and in fact it will be impossible to locate all firearms, as many in the hands of criminals are unregistered or stolen.

Right now there is a huge deterrent in the US for home invasion robberies -- namely that the homeowner might be packing and shoot you if you try.

However, if you know that Joe Homeowner was a good little citizen and turned in his guns, and you still have your guns, you can break in with very little fear.

Personally I would not feel comfortable in a home with no gun, where the criminals KNOW I have no gun.

Non-gun-owners are actually deriving the benefit from gun owners, as criminals looking to break into their home don't know who owns firearms and who doesn't.

And what about businesses? Same thing.

This absolutely would not work in the US. You can theorize all you want about the ways you could do it, the way Europe has done it, the way Australia has done it... and it still won't work.

The US is and always has been a different country than the others.

Sorry if I don't trust that career criminals are going to turn in their guns and play by the rules when asked to do so.

BTW, if you remove guns, that doesn't necessarily stop spree killers. The Boston Marathon killers didn't use guns until they were running from police. Psychos will usually find a way to kill if they are determined to do so. Focusing on the guns themselves is not the right way to go about it. It's basically weakening the innocent.

trying to make a point about gun reform with a rich white american is about the most retarded thing you can try and do on the internet, but ill bite.

you are being too narrow minded. obviously its not going to work if you say all guns are banned starting 'x' date like you are implying.

the way to do it is in baby steps over a long period of time.

example: you give incentives for all homeowners who have guns for protection to change their handguns to shotguns. eventually you ban sale of new handguns. criminals get busted over time and their guns confiscated and destroyed.
you are right the criminals aren't going to hand in their guns voluntarily but it creates a simple supply and demand issue. as less and less remain in circulation it pushes the price up.
Are you really going to be worried about some thug coming into your home with a handgun to steal your diamond encrusted cock ring when a handgun sells for 5k or 10k on the black market. you will find the people who have handguns at that stage are professional hitmen, major drug lords etc, not neverheeb looking to score his next hit.

also there are lots of other small steps you could take like only allowing certain guns, ie not automatics that can shoot 6 people in 6 seconds

also on a sidenote i would think spree killing accounts for a small % of your gun deaths. id be much more worried about road rage incidents or single murders etc

[Krypt]

Guns are bad; they're death magnets that have no place in civilized society. I'm a big believer in the notion that just owning a gun, by its very nature, attracts negative energy. I've never quite understood why people own guns for protection.. So you want to get in a shootout with the aggressor? Oh, and when was the last time you used your gun for protective purposes? More harm than good.

[Brittney Griner's Clit]

We've got jade helm and god knows what around the corner and you are worrying about citizens having guns???? Fuck my life.

[Brittney Griner's Clit]

Also a bit of self hypocrisy from myself.

Always found the death penalty to be a gruesome method of justice in advanced nations.


But in some cases I'm calling for the judges in certain crimes to sentence these monsters to a long and painful death.


So to sum up. I've really no idea where my head stands when it comes to the death penalty.

Only God should be able to give death penalties. It's hilarious that a mostly Christian nation ever went for that in the first place after the whole Jesus thing.

[4Dragons]

Guns are bad; they're death magnets that have no place in civilized society. I'm a big believer in the notion that just owning a gun, by its very nature, attracts negative energy. I've never quite understood why people own guns for protection.. So you want to get in a shootout with the aggressor? Oh, and when was the last time you used your gun for protective purposes? More harm than good.

This only applies to betas who couldn't hit the broad side of a barn.

[Hockey Guy]

This whole gun culture thing in the U.S. is a byproduct of, & could be argued that it's actually the driving force, of the "living in fear" mentality that permeates American society.

Until this changes Americans will always "live in fear" IMO.

[garrett]

This whole gun culture thing in the U.S. is a byproduct of, & could be argued that it's actually the driving force, of the "living in fear" mentality that permeates American society.

Until this changes Americans will always "live in fear" IMO.

'America' can be a nasty and violent place. Especially in certain areas.

All that great shit you hear on T.V/learn is actually lol'able. America is aggressive, pretentious, and actually dangerous in reality.

[Hockey Guy]

This whole gun culture thing in the U.S. is a byproduct of, & could be argued that it's actually the driving force, of the "living in fear" mentality that permeates American society.

Until this changes Americans will always "live in fear" IMO.

'America' can be a nasty and violent place. Especially in certain areas.

All that great shit you hear on T.V/learn is actually lol'able. America is aggressive, pretentious, and actually dangerous in reality.

No it's not. You're part of the problem.