The genesis to Peter Falcone (peterdc) in this community

[Lurker1998]

That was one of the three it had to be from the PM I sent you. She is allegedly a Jehovah's Witness, whatever that is. Hopefully she gets charged as an accomplice in his attempted larceny from you because she was listening to all his lies on the phone. Is there a chance of that? But on second thought she does have Peter Falcone DNA running through her bloodstream from the transplant, what else could we expect?

We've already been in touch with the FBI who informed me "unless Peter took money from us already" there isn't much they can do except pass along the info to the LA DA's office, etc.... I know Betsey is already arranging to have everyone he's stolen money from attend the hearing, etc... so she can put Peter aware for life. I mean, he swindled a dad who's daughter is dying from cancer out of $250k.... He took a NYC Criminal Defense attorney for $300k, and the list goes on and on...... OMG wait until I tell you what he did to Betsey!

By the way, the FBI should have a file on him already from the fall of 2002. I went to the US Attorney's office for the Southern District of NY and the FBI (ended up speaking with a wide array of law enforcement bodies). The FBI was instrumental in making sure he got sent back to serve his time in NY state when he was arrested in Arizona. If the FBI did not have his file from 2002, I can give you some info to pass along to them to help them in locating it (we can either communicate by PM or phone....I am in Vegas today, but my base is NYC and I am flying back this afternoon or evening).

[nonameplease]

OMG wait until I tell you what he did to Betsey!

Maybe hold off on that since it is the one case that he is being prosecuted for. I was purposely vague just gave a general description as I posted the pictures. Now the NY lawyer story might make for some good reading.

Good point. I will say nothing more. I actually don't have any info on the NYC lawyer - can u share?

[vpplayer]

Maybe hold off on that since it is the one case that he is being prosecuted for. I was purposely vague just gave a general description as I posted the pictures. Now the NY lawyer story might make for some good reading.

Good point. I will say nothing more. I actually don't have any info on the NYC lawyer - can u share?

Lurker1998, who was with me on Friday with Miss B is a NYC attorney. But I don't believe it's the same person you were speaking of. It is a new story, that's why I wanted to hear it and every time I think I've heard them all another one surfaces.

[Lurker1998]

Maybe hold off on that since it is the one case that he is being prosecuted for. I was purposely vague just gave a general description as I posted the pictures. Now the NY lawyer story might make for some good reading.

Good point. I will say nothing more. I actually don't have any info on the NYC lawyer - can u share?

If the New York lawyer is me (I am a NY Lawyer), the amount was not $300k (it was $65k), and I am not a criminal lawyer. However, at the time I met Peter and throughout the scam he ran on me, he met and socialized with two close friends of mine who at the time were federal prosecutors (Asst. US Attorneys - Southern District NY)). My story is written up in detail on Donkdown where I have the same screen name as I use here. Peter had the chutzpah to hand to these two federal prosecutors "business cards" that identified him as something like the COO for the Billy Walters Organization (or something like that). This happened at an OTB in the garment district about half a block from Peter's parole officer (he was on parole at the time he scammed me -- in fact, he was blowing parole and got sent back to prison to serve his full sentence because he was a chronic violator of his terms of parole). When I went to meet his parole officer after everything was revealed...it was eerie how close the OTB where it started was to the NY Dept of Corrections offices. That OTB must have been a hot place for guys going just after meeting with their parole officers.

[nonameplease]

[QUOTE=Lurker1998;34795]

Good point. I will say nothing more. I actually don't have any info on the NYC lawyer - can u share?

If the New York lawyer is me (I am a NY Lawyer), the amount was not $300k (it was $65k), and I am not a criminal lawyer.

Hi Lurker. I'm pretty sure I was referencing a different NYC attorney but in any case, I'm really sorry what happened to you. How did Peter scam you, if you don't mind sharing - and was he able to get any cash from your two close friends? Thank God we did not give Peter our friends' contact information.

[Sandwich]

Would you be willing to talk on radio tonight? I'm positive Druff would love to talk through these stories to paint the big picture of who Pete is.

Depends - what time and what would I need to do?

The show starts at 7pm Pacific / 10pm Eastern, and goes until "whenever."
Call in number: (775) FRAUD-55 or (775) 372-8355.
Dan Druff usually likes the callers to show caller ID, but if you're not comfortable with that, perhaps there is a way to PM him and arrange a different way to call in.

It would be great to hear more details and stories about this -- thanks for all you've shared thus far!

[Lurker1998]

Hi Lurker. I'm pretty sure I was referencing a different NYC attorney but in any case, I'm really sorry what happened to you. How did Peter scam you, if you don't mind sharing - and was he able to get any cash from your two close friends? Thank God we did not give Peter our friends' contact information.

Hello No Name Please,

If you go to www.donkdown.com and search for the very long thread there about Peter Falcone, you will find me enter that thread around pages 98 to 100. Spread out through those pages, I tell my story. Here is what I believe to be a link to the longest entry, but it might not work --

http://www.donkdown.com/forum/warnin...8856-1980.html

Peter did not succeed in getting any cash from any of my friends. However, I did introduce him to over 10 close friends of mine and they all benefited from his largesse in varying degrees (he was obviously "investing"....and all the cards came crashing down before he could make his "harvest" fuller than just me). A big part of his scam was getting close to people close to me. One close friend of mine (a single professional woman who would probably accurately be described as being starved for affection at the time) ended up speaking with Peter by telephone several times a day every day for several months. He clearly honed in on her. However, the day he stiffed me for the $65k, he never called her again. After the scam went down, I had to call a lot of friends and caution them that Peter is a thief -- many required hours of persuasion to believe it.

Lurker 1998

[Deal]

http://www.donkdown.com/forum/warnin...8856-1980.html
Lurker 1998

Here it is:

My story is not new. But, in any event, provided below is story chopped way down to be made as concise as possible (even the way chopped down story is long -- these events took place over a long period of time and involved extremely intense involved interactions).

I hope you all are satisfied finally that I have come out and told my story. This is very painful for me to recount for a lot of reasons. I do not like doing this and I feel like it can only bring me more trouble and problems, but I also admire the guy who spoke out against Peter because that is the only way future victims can be protected. Peter is an extremely skilled and serious serial scammer -- he himself cannot deny this. As he pointed out in one of his notes to the guy who started the thread -- this is what he (Peter) does and there is other way he is going to make money. I am only coming forward with this story so that anybody in the future who might be a potential victim is able to find this thread and protect themselves (or at least go into whatever they do with full (or fuller) information). If you guys here flame or torch me for telling this story, not only do you make me feel like an idiot for giving you all this reading material, you also will definitely scare off a lot of other people out there who have similar stories to tell. If you want these stories, then you need to be supportive of the people providing them. Being scammed sucks beyond losing the cash and to be ridiculed just rubs salt in the wounds. I hope that by doing this, i will be encouraging others to come forward as well.

The following is extremely abbreviated and to the best of my recollection (remember, these events began more than 9 years ago).

First Saturday in February 2002 -- I was at a NYC OTB Restaurant (second floor at 7th Ave and 38th street) with two good friends (both Federal prosecutors -- I am a lawyer and these guys are law school buddies). Peter was at the next table with a regular who was a well known 10 percenter. Peter was flashing a very large role of $100 bills and talking up a fierce storm. Said he worked for Billy Walters placing action and also helped with sports bet analysis. Said he went to Syracuse but was a big St. John's fan. He exchanged cards with my prosecutor friends (I was unemployed at the time). He bought my friends drinks (I do not drink Alcohol). He wanted to talk handicapping, but I was too busy to talk, so he largely talked up my buddies.

Mid-June 2002 -- See Peter at the Meadowlands teletheater betting simulcasts. He sits near me and we exchange contacts and talk a little about that day's races. He tells me he is just in NY visiting friends and family but has to get back to Vegas. Urges me to come to Vegas and let him comp me. I reply that I already get comped on my own play. He chides me that my comps are 2 bit compared to his. I say I dont need fancy comps, just need a room and food.

from Mid-June to August 1 -- Peter and I speak by telephone everyday numerous times. We handicap the NY, California, and Monmouth races together by telephone and discuss the day's action. We do not do anything together. I do all my betting either in person at the Meadowlands or online. I plan a visit to Vegas for 3rd weekend in July. Peter offers to comp trip. I am visiting with a friend and planning to meet friends who live in Vegas. I turn down his offer to comp me for room, but I do allow him to pay for dinner out with my friends (I tell him that I was planning to take my friends out in the MGM where I get comped, I tell him to come to me and I will comp him. He insists we come to meet him in the Venetian and he will get the dinner comped for our trouble). Over the course of the time, he would comp me all meals outside of the MGM Grand and I would comp him all meals inside the MGM Grand. While I comped him more meals than he comped me, the meals he comped me were way more expensive than the meals I comped him -- no question he comped me significantly more than I comped him...not even close). While in Vegas, he invited me and my friends (me plus 3) to go meet Louie Anderson, go back stage, and see the Louie Anderson show. We accept his invite. We are ushered into Louie Anderson's dressing room. Louie and Peter hug. Louie is super nice to us. Peter comps us the best seats in the house for the show (first time I ever saw a show (other than rock concert) in Vegas....I told him repeatedly I wasnt interested in show tickets that he offered, but he was quite persistent). During the show, during one of his breaks on stage, Louie shouts out to us hello (He says something to the effect (quotation is an estimate, not exact) -- "I want to say hello to Peter Falcone's friends that I met backstage before the show, any friend of Peter is a friend of mine, come find me at any of my shows to say hello"). Peter introduces me to friends of his and I introduce him to friends of mine.

August 2002 -- Peter and I start betting together on horses. He takes my bets and bets them at the Boardwalk and he gives me a 3.5% rebate (which is better than I can get online or in NY but what I was getting at the time when betting at the MGM Grand in person). I also allow him to use one of my online racetrack accounts. Over the course of the month, I end up owing him something in the neighborhood of $35k ($10-15k are my own losses, and $20-25k are winnings he made while using my own accounts that I owe him but the money is in my online accounts and I have no trouble withdrawing it out -- I dont remember the precise figures, but it is someting like $12,5k of my own losses and $22,5k of his bona fide wins). I see Peter three times over the month, twice in Vegas and once in LA. I pay him cash in person what I owe him. Note that at this stage, I could have simply run off and not paid him the $35k. I would have profited greatly. Part of the beauty of his con is that he did trust me with large sums of money. Once a person trusts you with such large sums of money, it is very hard to turn around and say no to trusting him with similar sums. I make two visits to Vegas in the month. On the second trip, I finally give in to him and allow him to comp me a room. He gets me an extremely impressive suite at the Bellagio. Way more than I could possibly ever use or want. One of the only suspicious things before the whole thing fell apart happens while I am staying at the Bellagio (by the way, this is the only time in my life I ever stayed at the Bellagio). I get a phone message to telephone a friend in Moscow. She is an ex-girlfriend who I remain very friendly with. She only speaks Russian, no English. So, I am on the phone speaking in Russian. Falcone is pacing the suite ferociously while I am talking and starts breaking out in big red blotches on his face and is sweating like crazy. I have about a 10 minute phone call in Russian and as soon as I hang up he yells sharply at me -- "What the fuck was that?" I laugh and tell him it is nothing...an ex girlfriend in Russia with a problem looking for help and she doesn't speak English so I have to speak Russian....he is still very agitated and yells "Are you trying to kill me?" I laugh at the preposterousness of this. He sees there is nothing, and the moment passes. In retrospect, I should have realized that his bizarre reaction to me having a conversation in Russian should have been a tip off. Over this month, he also meets more of my friends and I meet more of his friends. He begins calling my friends directly and interacting without me (which I am fine with at the time). One of my friends is a single woman looking for attention and Peter lavishes her with attention. He completely charmed her. Was a complete and total gentleman. All of my friends were extremely impressed with him and liked him. He did pay outsize attention to single women (but all completely correct, nothing untoward).

September 2002 -- Peter continues befriending my friends and he gives them lots of comps which they accept. He and I also agree for me to become an agent for Billy Walker with Peter as the intermediary. First action is labor day weekend. Peter makes a very large score (I forget the exact amount, but in the neighborhood of $25k). Again, I could make off with the cash and profit hugely. I take my cut (I think it was $2500) and send him the rest by giving the cash in an envelope to a friend of his. He arranges a very elaborate plan...tells me a guy in an SUV with license plates XXXXX will arrive at my building. I am to give the guy the envelope with the cash (it is a large manilla envelope) and I am to get as my receipt a one dollar bill with a specified serial number. he told me that as long as I have the one dollar bill with the right serial number, then that is the evidence that I made the payment required of me. The next week, he breaks even with the bookie, but I owe him $9,5k on horse losses for the first two weeks of September. He says I am entitled to $1500 for the capacity he used in my accounts with the bookie, so I owe him $8000 which I also pay. The third week of the season is when all hell broke loose. It is Sunday noon. I have a very important (at least to me) second date with a gal I am very smitten with. As I am about to walk out the door to meet her for brunch, the bookie calls me...says I am over the limit ($32,5k) and my friend still wants to bet...what do I want. I should also point out that the bookie complains that my friend is berating the guys who answer the phones. In fairness, the bookie had warned me previously that Peter had a bad phone manner with the people taking the calls and also warned me that his betting is very bizarre. I know nothing about sports betting so I have no way to judge. I just assume the betting is what makes Billy Walters special. As to the phone manner, I did ask Peter to try to be polite on the phone (before the bookie even warned me, Peter told me the guys answering the phone were being smart wiht him and playing games -- I just assumed this is part of that whole world). Anyway, I call Peter....he explains they are running bad.....but nothing serious, asks me to double the iimit and he tells me he will throw me an extra $2500 and the limit can go back down after the weekend. My problem is the following -- I have two choices -- (1) say to Peter no, and then have a whole long conversation with him about why i wont extend credit while he has been extending me huge credit for 2 month and basically screw up my date or (2) go with raising the limit to $65k and make my date. Peter tells me he is in NY and will get me cash either that night (sunday night) or monday morning worst case. I go ahead and raise the limit. Account ends up maxed out in loss position. I speak with Peter, he says he has cash and will meet me with cash at the meet with the bookie's runner (which is to take place at 135th and Broadway). An hour before the meet, I call Peter and he doesn't answer. Try frantically to reach him for the next 30 min. Then call bookie and say I am going to miss meet and need to reschedule. Peter never answers another phone call or email from me to this day nor does he ever try to contact me. I contact his friends that introducd me to him, they say he was in Vegas on Sunday and left town in a hurry and nobody had seen him.

Aftermath -- first thing I do is call all the friends that Peter is in regular contact to warn them he is a scammer and not to trust him at all. Then, my prosecutor friends refer me to the FBI. The FBI then puts me on to the guy at department of corrections in NY with jurisdiction over Peter's parole (this is not his parole officer, but a corrections detective, they have such things). I spend a lot of time talking with law enforcement in Nevada and NY. Various things I learned....(1) if I had known at the time, I could have gone to the department of corrections website and searched for Peter and I would have found him (I did after the gig was up). Problem is that time a search of Peter Falcone criminal record or violations or anything like that did not turn up anything. Only way you could find out was to go to specific sites and do targeted searches. Too late now. Also, NY now allows non-violent guys to have their record not obtainable over the internet after a certain amount of time -- something Peter is now a beneficiary of, (2) I tell the cops to warn Louie Anderson -- they do, and it turns out Peter skipped out an a debt to Louie as well as a debt to Louie's charity, (3) he had also just scammed a cocktail waitress in Reno. Anyway, there is a very condensed version of the story.

One thing -- the bookie offered to me that I did not have to pay if I would give him all the information I had on Peter and he (the bookie) would collect for me. When I opened the account, I had told the bookie it was my account, but i was letting a friend bet in it for me. He was fine with that, and he was sympathetic to my plight. However, when i spoke with my prosecutor friends -- they told me I was an idiot. At that time, I had done nothing wrong. If i gave the bookie info on Peter and cooperated in their collection efforts, then I could be looking at some real trouble (including prison). They told me in no uncertain terms that it was an idiotic thing to do. They did tell me I should just stiff the bookie. However, the bookie had paid out a big chunk, and the bookie did nothing wrong. I decided to take my lumps and pay the bookie and I did not give the bookie any info on Peter. The whole experience was awful. I at least learned from it. Losing that amount of cash stinks -- but it is better than prison or being in Peter's shoes.

It is hard to figure a guy like Peter. He obviously has talents. I think his nature is to be a good guy. At bottom, i think he has a gambling sickness so bad that it just perverts and infects everything else about him. Also, he is in such a hole that there is probably no other way out than to keep going doing what he does. In my view, maybe it would be better for him to become like the scammer in the Leonardo DiCaprio movie who ends up becoming a security consultant and working with law enforcement. His current path is just dreadful and has no good ending. While it may be painful to change and try to fly right.....the ending is a lot better that way. This thread should make it a lot harder for him to scam people (at least that is my hope and why i am participating in it), so maybe it will help him hit rock bottom and try to straighten up and fly right. I hope he does.

So, now that I have spilled my guts -- anybody else out there have similar stories to share? Anything new? Also, i noticed that Peter was quite active on here including a thread where he was dealing with a guy who deadbeated on him (oh the ironies). Am curious if there are any other worthwhile things to know about his participation on this site before he left. If I am reading the site right, he posted 1200 times....too much to go back through

[Dan Druff]

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Very interesting stories about Peter.

One thing I should add (not sure if I posted this yet) is that Stephanie, the girl referred to in the first post in this thread, told me that Peter doesn't like sex. He actually told her that he hates sex and doesn't enjoy having it.

It seems that the other reports I'm reading are consistent with that. It seems he only has sex if it is used as means to establish trust. Unless he's gay (which I don't believe to be the case), Peter is likely an asexual. Asexuals are said to comprise of 1% of the population, and are not sexually attracted to anyone. Much like homosexuals aren't attracted at all to the opposite sex and heterosexuals aren't attracted at all to the same sex, asexuals aren't attracted to either sex.

Many of Peter's victims were women, and some of them were attractive. He could have easily used them for sex as well as money, but never did. It seems that sex only enters the equation for him if he feels like he has to -- such as when he makes the woman believe they're in a serious relationship. A normal heterosexual scammer would be glad to take the sex that goes along with the monetary gain. Peter has no desire for that.

[vpplayer]

One thing I should add (not sure if I posted this yet) is that Stephanie, the girl referred to in the first post in this thread, told me that Peter doesn't like sex. He actually told her that he hates sex and doesn't enjoy having it.

How do you know if Peter Falcone is lying? His mouth is moving!! I've talked to women who have told me he does like sex, I understand your friend felt safe with him, that's a character that he is always in. If you're a single woman and you go on Craigslist looking to share a ride from LA to Vegas and you find a man to go with you, if that man doesn't have you in the trunk by Barstow you have a champion by Craigslist standards. He will always be charming, as for the not liking sex part, it might make interesting radio but in my eye's I couldn't say that with certainty because I've heard too much the contrary.

On a side note, Peter is furious and demanding all the pictures be taken down here and on DD. All I can say is keep demanding Petey.

[Lurker1998]

One thing I should add (not sure if I posted this yet) is that Stephanie, the girl referred to in the first post in this thread, told me that Peter doesn't like sex. He actually told her that he hates sex and doesn't enjoy having it.

How do you know if Peter Falcone is lying? His mouth is moving!! I've talked to women who have told me he does like sex, I understand your friend felt safe with him, that's a character that he is always in. If you're a single woman and you go on Craigslist looking to share a ride from LA to Vegas and you find a man to go with you, if that man doesn't have you in the trunk by Barstow you have a champion by Craigslist standards. He will always be charming, as for the liking sex part, it might make interesting radio but in my eye's I couldn't say that with certainty because I've heard too much the contrary.

On a side note, Peter is furious and demanding all the pictures be taken down here and on DD. All I can say is keep demanding Petey.

On the sexual front --

My view is the -- "i don't like sex at all" -- is simply one of his moves....one of the weapons in his arsenal....tools in his tool bag. I am sure it works great. Some women take that as making him safe and they can know he is with them for other reasons than trying to get laid....a great confidence to instill in a gal. Some women may take it like a challenge...i wonder if I can turn him type of thing. It is a win there too for him. It is a great line for him to use.....it is win win all around no matter how the gal takes it. What's more, it is a perfect distraction from the truth -- his whole goal in life is to hurt people through deception. A huge part of that deception is to take people's eyes off the fact that they are being deceived. Instead of talking about the harm he has caused through his deceptions, the "I do not like sex" becomes its own focus taking peoples' attention away from the central fact about this guy. It has worked brilliantly. Without meaning any offense to the hosts here -- we have had one radio host suggest that Peter is the victim of childhood sexual abuse and we have Mr. Dan Druff riffing about asexuality. I am sure there are people who are victims of childhood abuse and that is an awful thing. I am also sure there are asexuals out there (and I guess that is interesting to some people -- although I do not see that much interesting about it). Again, I am not trying to diss the radio hosts.....just trying to expose the brilliance of this scammer and how they have even fallen for his deceptions -- taking one of his lines and using it to distract from the central truth about the guy.

I just want to be absolutely clear. Peter Falcone is a sociopath. Read the book on this -- anybody who has met Falcone and who reads the Martha Stout book will come away profoundly impacted. Peter Falcone is addicted to hurting people through deception and nothing else matters to him. That is what he loves, lives for, and is addicted to. Everything else is just a life support system for that profound need to hurt/beat people. I was reading about Stuey Ungar recently. He apparently hated to eat.....just viewed it as something necessary you had to do to live, but otherwise hated doing it. It took time away from his gambling or drug addiction. Now, with Stuey Ungar, you can believe he did not like food and his addictions were what they were professed to be (drugs and gambling). When Falcone says he does not like sex, it is a completely different situation than with Stuey Unger. However, part of Falcone's brilliance is his ability to cover over what he truly his. I bet one of his potential defenses in court will be that he is a gambling addict, no different than a Stuey Ungar. But, if he tries that, it will be one more lie. I know a lot of true gambling addicts, and Peter Falcone is not one of them (yes, this is a sly allusion to the Bentsen-Qualye debate). Gambling addicts do not steal money to take a lot of strangers out to dinner or to comp them suites or to comp them show tickets. Fraudsters steal for that purpose, gambling addicts do not. If Falcone is an addict, his addiction is absolutely not gambling -- his addiction is the high he gets from successfully deceiving people. The money is a convenient scorecard for how artful/masterful his frauds are.

On his pictures --

As to Petey wanting to have his pictures taken down, why doesn't the host of this site do what he does with others -- give the alleged scammer an opportunity to defend himself -- the debts exist or do not exist -- he either pays them back or explains why the money is not owed. His pictures can come down once he settles all the claims against him. Also, it would be interesting to hear how he defends having so many aliases -- Pete Falcone = Pete Serrano = Mike Esposito = Mike Vitale -- am I missing any others? He should probably want to explain the situation with the various aliases -- they seem to me to be an indicia of guilt and a clear attempt to continue his scamming ways after his own name is irredeemably tarnished. Why should Petey be subject to a different standard than say Erick Lindgren is? Shouldn't the same standard apply to both guys? If anything, Lindgren appears to be the more benign of the two (It appears to me that Lindgren is a bona fide gamblaholic and to the extent he is scamming it is because of his gambling sickness and not for the purpose of hurting somebody else). Look at the Brad Booth situation. Why should Peter be treated better than Brad Booth? Booth is clearly a more benign figure than Falcone. Rather than demanding that his pics get taken down, maybe instead Falcone should be posting a video of himself a la Brad Booth. Whatever Booth's motivation was in making the video....you have got to place the guy above Falcone in relative terms. Am I missing something here? Are we being unfair to Falcone? He and his proxies are watching these boards......the only reason he cannot either defend himself or else make a post like Brad Booth did is that what I am saying about him is all true. All I think Falcone wants is for these threads to fade away so that when he gets back out of prison, he can go back to his notorious ways.

[TheTemplar]

Peter knows he can come on here and explain himself. Druff would absolutely love to have him on I am sure.

[nonamesplease]

He will always be charming, as for the not liking sex part, it might make interesting radio but in my eye's I couldn't say that with certainty because I've heard too much the contrary.

On a side note, Peter is furious and demanding all the pictures be taken down here and on DD. All I can say is keep demanding Petey.

vpplayer - I can tell you first hand that my husband had a conversation with Peter just a couple of months back (initiated by Peter) about the subject of sex. Peter told him that he does not need to have sex ever.... that he has zero sex drive and if he didn't have sex for a year, he could care less. That is first hand.

[Deal]

Druff, why don't you take Pete's picture and his 4 known aliases and create facebook pages for each of them. That way the victims, that google his name every once in a while will have an easy way of contacting you. You could then encourage them to post their stories here or you could do it on their behalf.

[Hockey Guy]

vpplayer - I can tell you first hand that my husband had a conversation with Peter just a couple of months back (initiated by Peter) about the subject of sex. Peter told him that he does not need to have sex ever.... that he has zero sex drive and if he didn't have sex for a year, he could care less. That is first hand.

Does it really matter what you heard first hand? Everything he's ever said to you has been a lie. Why would this thing about sex be any different? Lurker 1988 & vpplayer have explained it perfectly so I don't really understand still believing this not liking sex nonsense. Especially a first hand conversation that Peter initiated. Isn't it obvious?

On a side note, why do you seem to be posting under 2 screen names?

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You should only post under 1 name because a lot of conspiracy theorists would think you are 2 different people posting.

[chinamaniac]

I luckily avoided his scams and reaped some perks in the mean time. He comped me a weeks worth of rooms (Bellagio and a HUGE room @ Caesars) in Vegas AND all my food and drinks were taken care of and we were ordering $100 drinks etc. He offered a limo for me as well but I rented a car instead. He left me keys with a hand written note @ Bellagio VIP desk. He also treated about 8 of us out to a nice steak dinner @ some place @ Caesars and the manager there came over and new him and talked him up like he was a king and said he new Pete forever. Peter then explained to us when he first started going there that guy was the busboy.

While in Vegas he did come to my room after the first night and I just lost about 10-15k playing heads up online and I was still awake and he was telling me I could make a guaranteed 50-100k as a runner for him. He also told me to stick with sports so I wouldn't have to worry about the swings in Poker. he also told us to stay out of the pits and stick with just sports when we made a couple of $500 black jack wagers. When I explained to him that I just lost 25 % of my bankroll when he was in my room he seemed almost mad that I didn't have more money than he perceived I had.

He even booked my bets earlier that football season and I beat him for between 1k and 2k and he paid me on Stars courtesy of the guy who was booking his bets "ramboftw" but didnt take my action after that cause I believe he said I was "sharp".


The week before I came out there we talked on the phone about betting and he sent me a few private messages asking me how much would be " A lot" to me when making a wager when we were discussing college totals and how much could I "get down" on them. I explained to him that no book offers more than 500 on NCAA hoops totals and told him I could set him up with a Boston guy but he would have to post first for the amounts he played.

Had I have hooked him up with the guy I would have explained to the book that the guy seems legit and he is going to post xxxxx and he probably eventually would have rolled that guy.

I would have loaned him maybe up to 2k in Vegas had he asked me for a straight loan but I don't think anything more. But that would have never happened because at the time he had a lot of money and was looking to fry me for more if he could I believe. Maybe down the line he could have gotten me somehow for more if he worked hard too but at the time I don't think there was an angle he could have worked to get me. he possibly could have gotten me with an online xfer saying to ship to xxxxx and he would ship later in the day or something.

All in all he booked my bets and paid me. And comped me a shitload in Vegas. I would buy him a steak dinner if I saw him again but def wouldnt let him crash in my room

[nonameplease]

Does it really matter what you heard first hand? Everything he's ever said to you has been a lie. Why would this thing about sex be any different? Lurker 1988 & vpplayer have explained it perfectly so I don't really understand still believing this not liking sex nonsense. Especially a first hand conversation that Peter initiated. Isn't it obvious?

On a side note, why do you seem to be posting under 2 screen names?

nonameplease has 10 posts
nonamesplease has 2 posts

You should only post under 1 name because a lot of conspiracy theorists would think you are 2 different people posting.

You sound like a jerk, in case you were wondering. And not that it's your business, Hockey Guy, but when I created nonamesplease, my account was frozen after two posts and I was unable to post to any threads - hence the new nonameplease. If I were trying to be shady, one would hope I'd pick a move clever screen name than simply removing the "s" from the original. Hope this satisfies any potential conspiracy theories.

[Dan Druff]

Does it really matter what you heard first hand? Everything he's ever said to you has been a lie. Why would this thing about sex be any different? Lurker 1988 & vpplayer have explained it perfectly so I don't really understand still believing this not liking sex nonsense. Especially a first hand conversation that Peter initiated. Isn't it obvious?

On a side note, why do you seem to be posting under 2 screen names?

nonameplease has 10 posts
nonamesplease has 2 posts

You should only post under 1 name because a lot of conspiracy theorists would think you are 2 different people posting.

You sound like a jerk, in case you were wondering. And not that it's your business, Hockey Guy, but when I created nonamesplease, my account was frozen after two posts and I was unable to post to any threads - hence the new nonameplease. If I were trying to be shady, one would hope I'd pick a move clever screen name than simply removing the "s" from the original. Hope this satisfies any potential conspiracy theories.

Let's not do any fighting in this thread.

I agree that nonameplease/nonamesplease having two similar accounts is nothing shady, nor will anyone with a brain think that.

I can confirm that this person contacted me to fix their account.

[vpplayer]

[QUOTE=nonamesplease;37359]

vpplayer - I can tell you first hand that my husband had a conversation with Peter just a couple of months back (initiated by Peter) about the subject of sex. Peter told him that he does not need to have sex ever.... that he has zero sex drive and if he didn't have sex for a year, he could care less. That is first hand.

NNP,
Like I said before if his lips are moving he is lying. But all this chatter of sex makes us digress from the core of our mission, which is to keep Peter where he is. So with that as mind I would like to talk to you, (I PM'd you my number and I have yours) you can call me I can call you whatever you prefer. I would really like a notarized statement that Peter contacted you, through Robin Pern*** for the purpose of scamming you while in the custody of the LA Sheriffs Department. And include all his lies about being in Italy, using a fake name ect. I want to put an end to any chance of his bail being lowered. PM me or reply here

[Lurker1998]

He will always be charming, as for the not liking sex part, it might make interesting radio but in my eye's I couldn't say that with certainty because I've heard too much the contrary.

On a side note, Peter is furious and demanding all the pictures be taken down here and on DD. All I can say is keep demanding Petey.

vpplayer - I can tell you first hand that my husband had a conversation with Peter just a couple of months back (initiated by Peter) about the subject of sex. Peter told him that he does not need to have sex ever.... that he has zero sex drive and if he didn't have sex for a year, he could care less. That is first hand.

Here is another way to look at the same set of facts -- Peter is always fawning over women......maybe while he was trying to impress you, he was also sensing that your husband was feeling jealous over the attention Peter was showing you. For Peter, telling your husband what he told your husband is a good way for him to both put your husband at ease about him potentially having any untoward thoughts about you while still allowing Petey to keep the pedal to the metal to keep impressing you. I do not doubt that he told your husband this. I only doubt that it was true (or whatever the truth is, it is subservient to his need to keep the thing going with you guys). With Falcone, you always have to assume that what he is saying is irrelevant to whatever the truth is....rather, whatever he is saying is engineered to for his own purposes.