as far as the shoulder, I tore mine 30 years ago. I hurts all the time...sometimes, its minor pain. I slept on it wrong this past weekend...I cant even lift it and Im in tremendous pain, as it wont go back into the right spot and its preventing me from sleep. Dont think that the pain is always the same. I've had this for 4 days now and there is no way I could throw a solid punch right now. I could have before. Total fluke, but things just arent in the right place .
Yeah, I can understand that.Originally Posted by DRK Star
My issue is that he fought 12 guys with that injury. No one ever mentioned the shoulder.
Roach never asked how it was feeling between rounds. Manny never complained about pain. They never rubbed it, tried to loosen it. He never favored it during the fight. I don't even think he mentioned it in the post fight interview.
It's like they went back to the locker room, came up with an excuse, and have been riding with it ever since.
I agree, except that he had surgery immediately after the fight. Unless they exaggerated how major the surgery was, that would seem to be the thing that legitimizes the excuse. You're right that his shoulder didn't seem hurt during the fight, though. He threw at least a couple hundred fewer punches than expected, but that was definitely partly due to the counters he kept eating whenever he punched. Overall, I say fuck him. Floyd ain't losing to that guy no matter how healthy his shoulders are. Just like we were saying all along.Yeah, I can understand that.
My issue is that he fought 12 guys with that injury. No one ever mentioned the shoulder.
Roach never asked how it was feeling between rounds. Manny never complained about pain. They never rubbed it, tried to loosen it. He never favored it during the fight. I don't even think he mentioned it in the post fight interview.
It's like they went back to the locker room, came up with an excuse, and have been riding with it ever since.
Getting the surgery is an easy decision if it helps get another $100 million pay day. Probably wasn't necessary, just like it hasn't been necessary for the last 12 years. It's just playing into the excuse.
Shoulder injury, no shoulder injury, who cares. These guys could fight another 20 times and it will still be the same outcome, and the same boring ass fight. Pac can't KO anyone anymore, and Floyd is Floyd, he won't suddenly decide to mix it up and make this more exciting if they fight again. His 0 is way too important. Another fight between these two would just be another black eye for boxing IMO.
lol wow holy shit
is JMM still massaging Mayweather's nutbag ?
dude we get it, you don't like Pacquiao, and you love wife beating n-word pieces of shit
Respect for knowing boxing better than anyone on this forum, but I'm surprised at how you are worshiping this clown as a legendary fighter.
One thing is certain, his legacy long after he is finished with boxing, will be as a fucking POS...not as a champion
anyway, carry on gargling his testicles bro
No, you're apparently just too fucking stupid to grasp the fact that I call things as I see it. I don't hate Pacquiao. I'm not some blind Mayweather fanboy. I'm just having a conversation. I don't give a fuck if you agree or not. But until you bring something to the conversaton other than your played out bullshit, stay the fuck out of it. There's a reason you just stoop to insults instead of trying to debate it with me.
lol wow holy shit
is JMM still massaging Mayweather's nutbag ?
dude we get it, you don't like Pacquiao, and you love wife beating n-word pieces of shit
Respect for knowing boxing better than anyone on this forum, but I'm surprised at how you are worshiping this clown as a legendary fighter.
One thing is certain, his legacy long after he is finished with boxing, will be as a fucking POS...not as a champion
anyway, carry on gargling his testicles bro
Anytime someone doesn't share your opinion you attack them with some of the dumbest goddamn insults imaginable.
You're a grown man. Act like it.
Oh I agree completely. I said a few pages back. I 100% believe that there was an injury. But I don't believe it determined the outcome of the fIght.
He wasn't his normal aggressive self. But like you said, he ate counters. Floyd also threw the right hand just about every time he thought Manny was coming in. And he really had Manny out of range for most of the fight. We've seen it over and over. Mayweather takes a guys workrate and cuts it in half.
Exactly. That's why I think it's hilarious that people are pissed off because the fight lacked excitement. It's like they've never seen either guy fight. Manny needs guys to bring the fight to him, or stay in one place so he can get off. Floyd isn't that guy. He's gonna move, counter and make guys fight his fight. I really think all the crying about this fight, is just because this is the guy that was supposed to beat Mayweather. Then he wasn't even that competitive.
People accuse Mayweather of cherry picking his opponents. And if they fight a rematch, that's exactly what it'll be. They can sew on an extra shoulder and Manny won't win. The shoulder gives them a way to sell the rematch. But they're just setting people up for disappointment.
The official fight statistics "Compubox" numbers were way off, they are probably compiled by ‘kids from the HBO and Showtime offices’.
They said that Pacquiao had connected with less than 20 percent of his total punches and only 9 percent of his jabs.
Which was total bullshit.
Mayweather landed fewer punches than Pacquiao.
How can Mayweather dominate a fight by landing fewer punches than his opponent?
You're full of shit. Pacquiao didn't land more punches, lol.The official fight statistics "Compubox" numbers were way off, they are probably compiled by ‘kids from the HBO and Showtime offices’.
They said that Pacquiao had connected with less than 20 percent of his total punches and only 9 percent of his jabs.
Which was total bullshit.
Mayweather landed fewer punches than Pacquiao.
How can Mayweather dominate a fight by landing fewer punches than his opponent?
But the compubox numbers are bullshit.
And you also can't just look at a total number of punches and say "so and so won." Boxing is scored in rounds. 12 individual fights. Not one lump sum.
Either way. The fight was easy to score the first time. Easier to score on the replay. You can't find 7 rounds to give to Pacquiao unless you're being completely biased in his favor. He lost the fight. He'll lose the rematch. Move on.
If you watched that fight and somehow thought Pac won, you should either get your eyes checked, or stop watching boxing.
I say this as someone who was hoping and praying Pac would win. Hell, I even had a dream that he won with a left hook to the kidney followed by an uppercut to the jaw. Unfortunately none of that came true, and he clearly lost.
Pacquiao could have taken more chances in the fight, he should've hit Mayweather with some punches to the kidneys and try to foul him, take out his legs.
Mayweather is a good actor and the punches he threw looked more impressive to the judges than the punches Pacquiao threw.
Actually, both fighters won, they each got paid over $100 million for a fight that should have taken place 5 years ago.
The boxing fans and people who paid $100 to watch this fight lost.
I'm not racist, but how is this n-word not banned?
GGG fighting in t-minus 2 hrs.
Also, a boxing hype video:
ROMAN GONZALEZ IS GOD
Just finished watching GGG-Monroe. Pretty good fight. GGG was definitely getting tagged in rounds 4-5 though, although I guess Monroe has no power so there was no danger. This fight really makes we wonder if he could beat Floyd, as Floyd would be tagging him at will while he was walking Floyd down, and then the question is can he actually do damage when he finally gets Floyd in the corner.
Of course, if you are a conspiracy theorist you could wonder if he was letting Monroe hit him on purpose, to give the illusion he was beatable by someone with better defense. Again, GGG looked a lot smaller than his opponent, but the pre fight weigh in said he was 170, so I guess he is a legitimate middleweight and he doesn't look like it cause he doesn't have a natural mesomorph physique.
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can someone post a gif of the KO? Or video highlights?
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3 excellent fights on HBO since the snooze fest.
A star is born with Chocolito. That's what 43-0 is supposed to look like. I'll watch every one of his fights now.
GGG adoring himself to the Mexican fans is one of the greatest things I have ever seen. A guy from Kazakhstan becoming an American and Mexican boxing icon. Love this guy. Canello would be insane to fight him anytime in the next 2 years.
LOL @ Floyd ever fighting him. Never gonna happen.
Agree on all. Though, GGG would be wise to not let Canelo hit him the way Monroe did. I think his defense is better than he displayed, though. Monroe didn't have the power to earn his respect, so he could just walk through the punches and get to him quicker.
Floyd GGG isn't ever happening. Floyd isn't going to 160. People will say he drained GGG if it's at 154. Too much risk. I think GGG could get Floyd to the ropes. He's soooooo good at cutting the ring off. The question would be, like verminaard said, is can he land when he's there? I don't imagine he'd have to land much. Mayweather has a great chin, but GGG power is nothing to fuck with. A good shot to the chin puts Mayweather down.
Have to think Canelo/Cotto is next, assuming Cotto beats Geale (which isn't a given). So it'd be next year at the earliest for Canelo/GGG. Lara says he'll fight GGG. I'd like to see how long he lasts. With his movement and counter punching, he'd at least make GGG work for it.
Choclatito. Holy shit. Crazy thing is, Sosa is no pushover. He's a good fighter in his own right, despite being well past prime. Gonzalez went right thru him.
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