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    Quote Originally Posted by thesparten View Post
    Clinton DESTROYED Serbia..Milosevic was fighting Albanian,Serbian and Slavic Muslim forces that were remnants of the ottoman empire..what they are attempting to do in France they did to Milosevic..they were annexing his country, killing Christians and the Muslim parts of Serbia wanted to declare that part there's under sharia law..what did the Clinton s do...they bombed Milosevic into submission to allow the Muslim hordes there goals..Clinton instilled a media blackout in that war..they absolutely bombed civilian centers hospitals schools, apartment buildings even though Milosevic had a standing army...do your own research on NATO and the Serbian war as well as Clinton media blackout of the engagement... you liberals forgot as bout Clinton s war.
    Shut it down you senile faggot

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Are you actually questioning the US decision to invade Afghanistan? Even in hindsight, that was the right move.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Krypt View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by thesparten View Post
    Clinton DESTROYED Serbia..Milosevic was fighting Albanian,Serbian and Slavic Muslim forces that were remnants of the ottoman empire..what they are attempting to do in France they did to Milosevic..they were annexing his country, killing Christians and the Muslim parts of Serbia wanted to declare that part there's under sharia law..what did the Clinton s do...they bombed Milosevic into submission to allow the Muslim hordes there goals..Clinton instilled a media blackout in that war..they absolutely bombed civilian centers hospitals schools, apartment buildings even though Milosevic had a standing army...do your own research on NATO and the Serbian war as well as Clinton media blackout of the engagement... you liberals forgot as bout Clinton s war.
    Shut it down you senile faggot
    deflect and redirect

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by ToasterOven View Post
    Druff, what are the scandals? I think the NSA data collection should be a scandal, but it won't be because Republicans like it, too. I think not using a government email at State should be a scandal, too, but the people that vote can't open their AOL email half the time and don't care about the issue.

    Watergate is a scandal. The Chief of Staff went to jail, along with plenty of others. The president had to resign. Iran Contra was a scandal. People went to jail. Lewinsky was a scandal. The president was impeached. Benghazi is not a scandal. Partisan congressional investigations came up with nothing, more than once. It's something for dingdongs to send email forwards back and forth, not something that comes up in a an election.

    I'm not a fan of Hillary, but she's thinking she isn't electable is crazypants.
    You are taking the term "scandal" too literally. By "scandal", I mean anything that has been a controversy surrounding her actions.

    Here is a partial list of them, and I'm not even including the things Bill has done which can be additional baggage for her.

    - Whitewater
    - Weird Vince Foster suicide
    - Vanishing Rose Law Firm billing records in Arkansas
    - The fortune she made in cattle futures under questionable circumstances
    - Hiring Sandy Berger as an adviser after he was caught stealing from the National Archives
    - James Riady, Indoneisan longtime Clinton/Democratic fundraiser and convicted criminal, allowed to enter US somehow in 2009
    - Benghazi
    - NSA data collection scandal
    - Bill, Hillary, and Chelsea Clinton Foundation taking massive foreign donations while she was Secretary of State
    - Usage of private e-mail account to conduct official government business

    Is that enough for you?

    Not all of these will come up during the election, but boy do the Republicans have a deep well to draw from. That has been my point, and I don't understand why you don't feel these situations won't present at least somewhat of a problem for her.

    I also didn't say she's unelectable. Did you miss the 10 or so times I said that she might win the election?

    Oh, and you thinking that Benghazi won't come up during the election is even more crazypants.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Here is a partial list of them, and I'm not even including the things Bill has done which can be additional baggage for her.

    - Whitewater
    - Weird Vince Foster suicide
    - Vanishing Rose Law Firm billing records in Arkansas
    - The fortune she made in cattle futures under questionable circumstances
    - Hiring Sandy Berger as an adviser after he was caught stealing from the National Archives
    - James Riady, Indoneisan longtime Clinton/Democratic fundraiser and convicted criminal, allowed to enter US somehow in 2009
    - Benghazi
    - NSA data collection scandal
    - Bill, Hillary, and Chelsea Clinton Foundation taking massive foreign donations while she was Secretary of State
    - Usage of private e-mail account to conduct official government business
    Let's hear what ignorant Republicans have to say about this...

    Not only does Republican Lindsey Graham claim not to have had a private email address—unlike Hillary Clinton—during his tenure in Congress, he also claims to have never sent an email. Ever. At all.

    On NBC's Meet the Press, Chuck Todd asked the senator from South Carolina, "Do you have a private e-mail address?"

    Graham replied, "I don't email. No, you can have every email I've ever sent. I've never sent one."



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    Fuck Lindsey Graham

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    Leave Lindsay Graham alone. That's somebody's mother.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ToasterOven View Post
    Druff, what are the scandals? I think the NSA data collection should be a scandal, but it won't be because Republicans like it, too. I think not using a government email at State should be a scandal, too, but the people that vote can't open their AOL email half the time and don't care about the issue.

    Watergate is a scandal. The Chief of Staff went to jail, along with plenty of others. The president had to resign. Iran Contra was a scandal. People went to jail. Lewinsky was a scandal. The president was impeached. Benghazi is not a scandal. Partisan congressional investigations came up with nothing, more than once. It's something for dingdongs to send email forwards back and forth, not something that comes up in a an election.

    I'm not a fan of Hillary, but she's thinking she isn't electable is crazypants.
    You are taking the term "scandal" too literally. By "scandal", I mean anything that has been a controversy surrounding her actions.

    Here is a partial list of them, and I'm not even including the things Bill has done which can be additional baggage for her.

    - Whitewater
    - Weird Vince Foster suicide
    - Vanishing Rose Law Firm billing records in Arkansas
    - The fortune she made in cattle futures under questionable circumstances
    - Hiring Sandy Berger as an adviser after he was caught stealing from the National Archives
    - James Riady, Indoneisan longtime Clinton/Democratic fundraiser and convicted criminal, allowed to enter US somehow in 2009
    - Benghazi
    - NSA data collection scandal
    - Bill, Hillary, and Chelsea Clinton Foundation taking massive foreign donations while she was Secretary of State
    - Usage of private e-mail account to conduct official government business

    Is that enough for you?

    Not all of these will come up during the election, but boy do the Republicans have a deep well to draw from. That has been my point, and I don't understand why you don't feel these situations won't present at least somewhat of a problem for her.

    I also didn't say she's unelectable. Did you miss the 10 or so times I said that she might win the election?

    Oh, and you thinking that Benghazi won't come up during the election is even more crazypants.

    Sorry, I thought when you used the word "scandal", you meant the literal definition of the word scandal. I didn't know you meant "topic of email forward from your uncle".

    But, you're right. Republicans will really win over the undecideds with stuff like "Hillary had Vince Foster killed". That will swing the election for sure.

    And who better than Republicans to call out someone's fundraising? That will be very fertile ground for them.

    Shut it down, man.

     
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    Actually the republicans receive there donations in a smaller average increments..I.e..donations from individuals..there both corrupt but the intricacies and grandiose scope of the corruption of the democratic machine make the republicans look like junior varsity...I'm talking about recent history not there reputation from 40 years ago or the crusades...PUT THE KOOL AID DOWN.

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    The average voter in the US won't understand or care about any of those scandals, you need to hit the lowest common denominator stuff that even the dumbest voter can see

    1. She's too old
    2. Didn't do anything after lewinsky deal to bill = no self respect = no leadership = chickenshit...will do anything to get elected, even stay with a guy who is still screwing around on her

    She'll probably win...but I hope the dems can find someone to knock her off

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheXFactor View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Here is a partial list of them, and I'm not even including the things Bill has done which can be additional baggage for her.

    - Whitewater
    - Weird Vince Foster suicide
    - Vanishing Rose Law Firm billing records in Arkansas
    - The fortune she made in cattle futures under questionable circumstances
    - Hiring Sandy Berger as an adviser after he was caught stealing from the National Archives
    - James Riady, Indoneisan longtime Clinton/Democratic fundraiser and convicted criminal, allowed to enter US somehow in 2009
    - Benghazi
    - NSA data collection scandal
    - Bill, Hillary, and Chelsea Clinton Foundation taking massive foreign donations while she was Secretary of State
    - Usage of private e-mail account to conduct official government business
    Let's hear what ignorant Republicans have to say about this...

    Not only does Republican Lindsey Graham claim not to have had a private email address—unlike Hillary Clinton—during his tenure in Congress, he also claims to have never sent an email. Ever. At all.

    On NBC's Meet the Press, Chuck Todd asked the senator from South Carolina, "Do you have a private e-mail address?"

    Graham replied, "I don't email. No, you can have every email I've ever sent. I've never sent one."

    The guy is like 1000 years old. Old people don't even own computers.
    Does he have email? I'm sure he does.
    Does he have his staff check it and make responses? I'm sure he does.

    This should bother you more:

    "Obama said on Saturday he only recently learned of Clinton's private email account."
    https://ca.news.yahoo.com/huge-gaps-...192615720.html
    So while getting and sending emails to her private email for several years, he 'just now' learned of it? Fuck you, fuck me.
    Last edited by 4Dragons; 03-09-2015 at 09:51 AM.

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    The New Forbes list of the world richest billionaires is like a who's,who of socialist and PROGRESSIVE idea supporters..DO YOU THINK THERE BEING ALTRUISTIC OR THAT'S WHAT BENEFITS THEM AND THERE CONTEMPORARIES?? This notion that republicans are for the rich is nuts...PROGRESSIVES consolidate power and wealth, it's like a feudal system..hello Detroit!! Lol

     
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    I think what youre forgetting Druff is that there isnt a soul alive in politics who wants to start trotting out skeletons that old. It just doesnt happen anymore because its basically mutually assured destruction, if they are lucky.

    At best they feed that shit to talking heads like Rush Limbaugh who has exactly zero potential to influence votes in any meaningful capacity, and has demonstrated an ability to consistently alienate centerist Republicans at worst.

     
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      thesparten: how are they centrist republicans...course they act like democrats. and . PROGRESSIVES..what would you call a democrats that agreed with conservatives..or is your logic hypocritical..
    "Birds born in a cage think flying is an illness." - Alejandro Jodorowsky

    "America is not so much a nightmare as a non-dream. The American non-dream is precisely a move to wipe the dream out of existence. The dream is a spontaneous happening and therefore dangerous to a control system set up by the non-dreamers." -- William S. Burroughs

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    By "scandal", I mean anything that has been a controversy surrounding her.

    - Whitewater
    - Weird Vince Foster suicide
    - Vanishing Rose Law Firm billing records in Arkansas
    - The fortune she made in cattle futures under questionable circumstances
    - Hiring Sandy Berger as an adviser after he was caught stealing from the National Archives
    - James Riady, Indoneisan longtime Clinton/Democratic fundraiser and convicted criminal, allowed to enter US somehow in 2009
    - Benghazi
    - NSA data collection scandal
    - Bill, Hillary, and Chelsea Clinton Foundation taking massive foreign donations while she was Secretary of State
    Are we voting for the next Eagle Scout or for the best "politician". Stop fagging this up with idealism.

    Clinton's pain threshold and cunning as evidenced above is the stuff of legend.

    She's ruthless without crippling vindictiveness. She's crafty and cunning unlike guys like Chris Cristie. I once thought Christie was my boy but Clinton has bigger balls.

    She's a dark, manipulative bitch. She's evil and scary. She can't be taken down - try and she might have you killed.

    Clearly she is the best politician and worthy of your vote for MVP.

     
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    If Hillary had balls, people would call her soft. Or a hero. Shrug. I consider her competent and worldly, the 'dirt' on her seems hilariously mild in comparison to that of her peers.

     
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    "Birds born in a cage think flying is an illness." - Alejandro Jodorowsky

    "America is not so much a nightmare as a non-dream. The American non-dream is precisely a move to wipe the dream out of existence. The dream is a spontaneous happening and therefore dangerous to a control system set up by the non-dreamers." -- William S. Burroughs

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    Me and a couple buddies consistently blazed at a dog park not too far away from the Clinton residence. Quite the neighborhood it has to be said; the people that live in that part of NW are so fucking chill about public drinking and smoking, same goes for the cops.

     
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    Politico just admitted that they had the email story 6 months ago but elected not to run it...instead they informed Hillary so she could take the lead in it..what?????? Journalists????? It's more like the ministry of approved information out of the Soviet era...wow! They also said there surprised that she hasn't rectified it as yet...talk about bias media...woe!

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
    I think what youre forgetting Druff is that there isnt a soul alive in politics who wants to start trotting out skeletons that old. It just doesnt happen anymore because its basically mutually assured destruction, if they are lucky.

    At best they feed that shit to talking heads like Rush Limbaugh who has exactly zero potential to influence votes in any meaningful capacity, and has demonstrated an ability to consistently alienate centerist Republicans at worst.
    Your logic is hypocritical..you wouldn't be calling a democrat a centrist for agreeing with conservatives, of course not..you wouldn't say that Rachel maddow on msnbc wasn't alienating Anyone as opposed to rush Limbaugh, of course not..I'm surprised at you sonatine, I'm sure you will rationalize your inconsistent logic like a good member of the collective..

     
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    You say the press is going to sugarcoat everything Clinton has ever done?

    Stop the presses!

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by thesparten View Post
    Politico just admitted that they had the email story 6 months ago but elected not to run it...instead they informed Hillary so she could take the lead in it..what?????? Journalists????? It's more like the ministry of approved information out of the Soviet era...wow! They also said there surprised that she hasn't rectified it as yet...talk about bias media...woe!
    Freedom of the press is a joke in USA. The extreme left wing media takes the first amendment protection of the press to write and say anything they damn well please. Come election time they will say whatever they can to get their left wing nut cases elected.

    The protection of the press in the first amendment in the biggest mistake in the Bill of Rights.
    the bullet hit trump but took out biden.

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