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    Lets say he decides to go ahead with the poker site. His daughter 20 years from now is back in the states and wants to get married. What if the whole thing blows over and no charges are brought against him. Do they need a judgement against him or can they still arrest him without any sentence imposed on him while he is in abstentia?

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    free poker theory...

    I play live poker so.. Most god players play TIGHT for the first, even 3 hours.. spot the tight.loose/mark etc



    raise call or fold...

     
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    Seems like he has resigned himself to not returning to the US for the WSOP or anything else:

    Bryan Micon @BryanMicon · 5h 5 hours ago
    @jvfricke I'll build a yearly poker tournament on this awesomely beautiful island over the next few years and you will have to come here
    So apparently he understands the gravity of his decision.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FRANKRIZZO View Post
    Lets say he decides to go ahead with the poker site. His daughter 20 years from now is back in the states and wants to get married. What if the whole thing blows over and no charges are brought against him. Do they need a judgement against him or can they still arrest him without any sentence imposed on him while he is in abstentia?
    If there are no charges, he can return, as the statute of limitations will be long over.

    However, if they charge and convict him in absentia, then he can be shipped off to prison if he sets foot on US soil.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Seems like he has resigned himself to not returning to the US for the WSOP or anything else:

    Bryan Micon @BryanMicon · 5h 5 hours ago
    @jvfricke I'll build a yearly poker tournament on this awesomely beautiful island over the next few years and you will have to come here
    So apparently he understands the gravity of his decision.
    One can't hate on a man who believes in his conviction.

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    I've shipped some more garrett-related fighting here to the containment thread.

    garrett, you are welcome to comment in this thread, but please stick to relevant commentary and tone down the number of posts. Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FRANKRIZZO View Post
    Lets say he decides to go ahead with the poker site. His daughter 20 years from now is back in the states and wants to get married. What if the whole thing blows over and no charges are brought against him. Do they need a judgement against him or can they still arrest him without any sentence imposed on him while he is in abstentia?
    Roman Polanski has not stepped foot in US soil in over 40 years because the statutory rape charge and law still exist. So if he is indicted, he just cannot wait it out as long as the law is on the books. I guess if UIGEA is overturned he might stand a chance, but that likely is not going to happen any time soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Forum Wars View Post
    Geeps, how's SwCPoker gonna pass these legal hurdles in Antigua...maybe Micon's good for it/has investors?



    License Fee:

    $15,000 non-refundable application fee.
    Interactive gaming license: £100,000.
    Interactive wagering license: $75,000 plus $5,000 annual renewal fee.
    To have a monitoring system, the fee is $25,000 for one license, $45,000 for two.


    Security Requirements/Indemnity for Players Deposits:
    Operators must register and verify the identities of players before allowing participation in wagering. Operators are required to provide the name, date of birth and place of residence of registering players and in accordance with privacy laws, player identities must remain confidential.


    http://calvinayre.com/online-gaming-...erica/antigua/


    Personally see the biggest problem with "no account necessary bitcoin poker" to be Antigua's Security Requirements: Must register and verify identities including name, DOB, address. Good Luck with that Micon.
    Great point.

    This won't be easy, and perhaps not feasible at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tony View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by FRANKRIZZO View Post
    Lets say he decides to go ahead with the poker site. His daughter 20 years from now is back in the states and wants to get married. What if the whole thing blows over and no charges are brought against him. Do they need a judgement against him or can they still arrest him without any sentence imposed on him while he is in abstentia?
    Roman Polanski has not stepped foot in US soil in over 40 years because the statutory rape charge and law still exist. So if he is indicted, he just cannot wait it out as long as the law is on the books. I guess if UIGEA is overturned he might stand a chance, but that likely is not going to happen any time soon.
    Polanski was convicted. He actually pled guilty, and then ran off before he could be sentenced. That's why he could be imprisoned in the US today, despite the length of time that has passed.

    It's not related to the age of the law or whether it's still on the books.

    If you are convicted in the US (whether while here or in absentia), no amount of time can save you from prison when you return.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    ..they are absolute geniuses when it comes to both payment processing and avoiding smackdowns from the US government. They've existed for 15 years as a poker room, casino, and sportsbook (the latter of which really pisses of US authorities) and have avoided any kind of bust..
    yes. great payment processors.

    and 'avoided' any kind of bust.

    almost makes you wonder.

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    Just read the 2+2 thread in the Internet Poker section regarding Seals.

    The stupidity of most of the posters on that site is astounding.

    They're actually having a discussion about whether it was illegal for Seals to offer games to Nevada residents if Seals was anonymous and didn't collect player info.

    Like they're trying to say that if you close your eyes and don't ask where players are from, then you can't be responsible for players from jurisdictions with regulated online gaming playing on your site.

    Seriously, some are trying to make that point.

    Others are saying that Seals simply needed a disclaimer, warning people to follow all local laws regarding playing there, and that having it would have saved them from legal trouble.

    Um, no.

    Reminds me of the hookers who think that putting a website notice of "Payments are for time spent together only. Anything sexual that occurs after that is a matter of choice between two consenting adults" will prevent them from being charged with prostitution.


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    Quote Originally Posted by superallah View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    ..they are absolute geniuses when it comes to both payment processing and avoiding smackdowns from the US government. They've existed for 15 years as a poker room, casino, and sportsbook (the latter of which really pisses of US authorities) and have avoided any kind of bust..
    yes. great payment processors.

    and 'avoided' any kind of bust.

    almost makes you wonder.
    I don't know what point you're trying to make, but I can tell you from experience that they are constantly hopping between payment processors, so as to avoid having them tracked down and money seized.

     
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    Countries with no extradition treaty with the USA


    At least he can tell Martha they're spoilt for choice.


    Afghanistan, Algeria, Andorra, Angola, Armenia, Bahrain, Bangladesh, Belarus, Bosnia and

    Herzegovina, Brunei, Burkina Faso, Burma, Burundi, Cambodia, Cameroon, Cape Verde, the Central

    African Republic, Chad, China, Comoros, Congo (Kinshasa), Congo (Brazzaville), Djibouti, Equatorial

    Guinea, Eritrea, Ethiopia, Gabon, Guinea, Guinea-Bissau, Indonesia, Ivory Coast, Kazakhstan,

    Kosovo, Kuwait, Laos, Lebanon, Libya, Macedonia, Madagascar, Maldives, Mali, Marshall Islands,

    Mauritania, Micronesia, Moldova, Mongolia, Montenegro, Morocco, Mozambique, Namibia, Nepal,

    Niger, Oman, Qatar, Russia, Rwanda, Samoa, São Tomé & Príncipe, Saudi Arabia, Senegal, Serbia,

    Somalia, Sudan, Syria, Togo, Tunisia, Uganda, Ukraine, United Arab Emirates, Uzbekistan, Vanuatu,

    Vatican, Vietnam and Yemen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of the Fraud View Post
    Countries with no extradition treaty with the USA


    At least he can tell Martha they're spoilt for choice.


    Afghanistan, Algeria, Andorra, Angola, Armenia, Bahrain, Bangladesh, Belarus, Bosnia and

    Herzegovina, Brunei, Burkina Faso, Burma, Burundi, Cambodia, Cameroon, Cape Verde, the Central

    African Republic, Chad, China, Comoros, Congo (Kinshasa), Congo (Brazzaville), Djibouti, Equatorial

    Guinea, Eritrea, Ethiopia, Gabon, Guinea, Guinea-Bissau, Indonesia, Ivory Coast, Kazakhstan,

    Kosovo, Kuwait, Laos, Lebanon, Libya, Macedonia, Madagascar, Maldives, Mali, Marshall Islands,

    Mauritania, Micronesia, Moldova, Mongolia, Montenegro, Morocco, Mozambique, Namibia, Nepal,

    Niger, Oman, Qatar, Russia, Rwanda, Samoa, São Tomé & Príncipe, Saudi Arabia, Senegal, Serbia,

    Somalia, Sudan, Syria, Togo, Tunisia, Uganda, Ukraine, United Arab Emirates, Uzbekistan, Vanuatu,

    Vatican, Vietnam and Yemen.


    If there are any KARMA GODS, Micon will end up moving there

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    The fact is they will not even try to extradite micon back to the U.S when charges are filed and yes they will be filed. They will wait if he ever steps foot in the U.S he is done, There will be a arrest warrant waiting

     
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    This is what happens when you screw me out of 400 dollars.

    There are no sides, only players.
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    How long and hard is Erin laughing now. She had to wait a long time for justice.

    Martha will end up leaving Micon on the island. She will make this choice as a mother.

    The only thing I feel sorry for is Micon's asshole in jail.

     
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      also yikes: He's probably coming from Brooklyn so it could just be me

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    Quote Originally Posted by splitthis View Post
    How long and hard is Erin laughing now. She had to wait a long time for justice.

    Martha will end up leaving Micon on the island. She will make this choice as a mother.

    The only thing I feel sorry for is Micon's asshole in jail.


    Lads, this is why you don't piss women off


    They're fucking vicious!
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    Meanwhile it's just business as usual for Micon. He faded over 7000 players in the freeroll.

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    Quote Originally Posted by splitthis View Post
    How long and hard is Erin laughing now. She had to wait a long time for justice.

    Martha will end up leaving Micon on the island. She will make this choice as a mother.

    The only thing I feel sorry for is Micon's asshole in jail.
    Over/under on Micon's rectum being 2.5 times normal size in five years?

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