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You and Vegas both keep ignoring my main point.....The ONLY reason Klitchko or Lewis would have a chance at beating an ALI is because they outweigh him by 100 pounds, NOT because they are better fighters. I will concede some that I have a harder time giving Klitchko any credit for the heavyweight division has been a total joke for years. Even now its like Saturday morning wrestling with this contrived fake storyline of Shannon Briggs following Klitschko around to build up some bogus rivalry. Briggs was never that good and now he is 42 and over the hill.
I'm not ignoring the point. I told you, Klitschko is stronger and has better defense. He uses his reach to beat guys. It's not like he uses his size to lean on them and wear them down. Taller guys with reach get beat all the time. Lewis, too. They use their strengths. Ali was fast and had great footwork. He didn't have great defense or a lot of power and would get hit too much.

They have about 30 pounds on Ali. Weighing more doesn't just automatically equal winning a fight.
Tyson beat plenty of guys that had 30+ pounds on him. Size does not equal an automatic win obv.

BTW, Ali was not exactly small. He was 6'3" and usually fought in the 215lb range. He was only 4lbs lighter than Foreman when they fought.

IMO, what made Ali so great, aside from amazing footwork, was he had the best chin ever. That pretty much worked against him in the long run though. He simply got hit way too much over the span of his career, and if he had any weakness it was definitely his defense. That is why I feel Lewis and Klitschko would have beaten him. Their defense was far superior to his and would have worn him down over 15 rounds.

BTW, still kind of chuckling that you think Punch Drunk Jerry would have stood a chance vs these two.

I would throw in Earnie Shavers over the majority of your list. He could have knocked anyone out, and would have had the best shot at scoring an early round KO.