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    Quote Originally Posted by ToasterOven View Post
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    Reports that ole boy scherzer is looking for 7yr 200m
    He turned down 6/24 during the year. I could see 6/30 from someone.
    He will probably get the same deal as Lester just because he is not a lefty.

    So 6/155 (25.8125), with a club option for year 7.

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    Salary fix is easy. don't make the guarunteed. Not sure why nba doesn't as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JUSTIFIEDhomicide View Post
    Salary fix is easy. don't make the guarunteed. Not sure why nba doesn't as well.
    Because it is collectively bargained & their union isn't that stupid but I'm sure it was a rhetorical question & you knew the answer.

    One way to bring down the price of the tickets to attend games would be for the governments to make them non tax deductible. No corporations would buy them at such inflated prices if they weren't.
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    I'd say good luck in the freeroll but I'm pretty sure you'll go on a bender to self-sabotage yourself & miss it completely or use it as the excuse of why you didn't cash.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JUSTIFIEDhomicide View Post
    Salary fix is easy. don't make the guarunteed. Not sure why nba doesn't as well.
    Wat

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hockey Guy View Post
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    Salary fix is easy. don't make the guarunteed. Not sure why nba doesn't as well.
    Because it is collectively bargained & their union isn't that stupid but I'm sure it was a rhetorical question & you knew the answer.

    One way to bring down the price of the tickets to attend games would be for the governments to make them non tax deductible. No corporations would buy them at such inflated prices if they weren't.

    Why not? First of all outside of Yankee stadium ticket prices are extremely cheap. If anything they could be raised. Especially GM and SRO.

    Secondly, there are so many awful contract. Guys who sign for 8-10 years, and have 3-4 solid years(Ryan Howard) and than they fall off. They should be able to be cut, or at the very least they need to start making contracts with extremely low buyout rates based on which year they're buying out.

    Something needs to be done. 300mil here 300 mil there, next thing you know someone is going to be signing a 500 million dollar contract right out of hebrew school.

    It's fucking ridiculous
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    Quote Originally Posted by varys View Post
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    Salary fix is easy. don't make the guarunteed. Not sure why nba doesn't as well.
    Wat


    What's the problem, gum?

    Name the last contract that was 8-10 years long where the team was happy to be shelling out millions for some washed up 38 year old scrub
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    Quote Originally Posted by JUSTIFIEDhomicide View Post
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    Because it is collectively bargained & their union isn't that stupid but I'm sure it was a rhetorical question & you knew the answer.

    One way to bring down the price of the tickets to attend games would be for the governments to make them non tax deductible. No corporations would buy them at such inflated prices if they weren't.

    Why not? First of all outside of Yankee stadium ticket prices are extremely cheap. If anything they could be raised. Especially GM and SRO.

    Secondly, there are so many awful contract. Guys who sign for 8-10 years, and have 3-4 solid years(Ryan Howard) and than they fall off. They should be able to be cut, or at the very least they need to start making contracts with extremely low buyout rates based on which year they're buying out.

    Something needs to be done. 300mil here 300 mil there, next thing you know someone is going to be signing a 500 million dollar contract right out of hebrew school.

    It's fucking ridiculous
    Baseball contracts do have the availability to have option years, but there is always some dumbass GM out there (like Amaro Jr.) who will gladly throw $200 mil fully guaranteed at a power hitter like Howard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JUSTIFIEDhomicide View Post
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    Wat


    What's the problem, gum?

    Name the last contract that was 8-10 years long where the team was happy to be shelling out millions for some washed up 38 year old scrub
    Yankees were happy with Jeter's last 10 year deal. His falling off years (the last few) were all 1 year deals if IIRC

    You could argue that AROD's original megadeal worked out well also, but he was traded during it, and the Yankees ripped that deal up early to give him another, the one that they are stuck with now.

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    The problem is how MLB handles players when they are younger.

    Service time of six years means a lot of players don't get their first real contract until they are 28-30 years old.

    They need to fix the system on the front end, so we don't continually have huge contracts running into players upper 30's (this isn't the steroid era).

    Service time should be cut to something like four years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by abrown83 View Post
    The problem is how MLB handles players when they are younger.

    Service time of six years means a lot of players don't get their first real contract until they are 28-30 years old.

    They need to fix the system on the front end, so we don't continually have huge contracts running into players upper 30's (this isn't the steroid era).

    Service time should be cut to something like four years.

    Yup.

    Even stud phenoms like Griffey, Trout, Arod who hit the bigs at age 19 technically wouldnt get their first chance at a free market deal til 25ish. of course guys like that tend to get taken care of earlier by their teams (as the Angels recently did with Trout) but the point remains.

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    Every league has tried to introduce the thought of non-guaranteed contracts during collective bargaining. Every one of them has dismissed it outright & that's where I get my comment that their "union isn't that stupid".

    You do understand that the owners of each league just can't unilaterally implement this non-guaranteed contract thing don't you?

     
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    I'd say good luck in the freeroll but I'm pretty sure you'll go on a bender to self-sabotage yourself & miss it completely or use it as the excuse of why you didn't cash.

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    Quote Originally Posted by abrown83 View Post
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    He turned down 6/24 during the year. I could see 6/30 from someone.
    He will probably get the same deal as Lester just because he is not a lefty.

    So 6/155 (25.8125), with a club option for year 7.
    I don't think so. Scherzer will be getting more than Lester, I don't think that's in doubt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ToasterOven View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by abrown83 View Post

    He will probably get the same deal as Lester just because he is not a lefty.

    So 6/155 (25.8125), with a club option for year 7.
    I don't think so. Scherzer will be getting more than Lester, I don't think that's in doubt.
    He probably deserves it, but lefties get more money historically than fair value.

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    Quote Originally Posted by abrown83 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ToasterOven View Post

    I don't think so. Scherzer will be getting more than Lester, I don't think that's in doubt.
    He probably deserves it, but lefties get more money historically than fair value.
    This is supposed to be true.

    Old lefties become LOOGY's. Old righties become bad contracts.

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    royals making good moves. something that is a rarity w/ them.

    padres doing some good things as well..

    wtf are the yankees doing...lol..wtf do they like about didi greg? no pop, no run, no hit ss that isn't that good defensively....lol..maybe he'll get better w/ the porch and w/ age he's still young. maybe he could hit 250 w/ 10hrs..lol

    yankees are full of 240 hitters and they traded pitching..lol like they have enough of that. (like the headly deal) why trade prado..who will play 2nd base?...lol. i still hope they fry
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    Johnny Manziel will be the 1st pick in the draft. I truly believe not only will Johnny Manziel be rookie of the year, quite possibly he will be MVP as his style will shock defensive coordinators. Manziel may only be 6 feet tall, but he has size 15 feet. And he has HUGE hands. I know some NFL scouts so I know what I am talking about.



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    The latest rumor is the Nationals are pursuing Max Scherzer hard. If he ends up there it will be super scary to face that already stacked core of starting pitching.

    http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/writer/...deal-deal-soon

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeerAndPoker View Post
    The latest rumor is the Nationals are pursuing Max Scherzer hard. If he ends up there it will be super scary to face that already stacked core of starting pitching.

    http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/writer/...deal-deal-soon
    MLB rumors is reporting that Washington will move Strasburg if they sign Scherzer.

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    The deal appears to be confirmed with the National for 7 years but I didn't see an amount mentioned yet.

    http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/12...d=sportscenter

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeerAndPoker View Post
    The deal appears to be confirmed with the National for 7 years but I didn't see an amount mentioned yet.

    http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/12...d=sportscenter
    Reports are now 210 million.

    Wow and sounds like they literally might have been bidding against themselves and Boras played them hard.

    Also, not a Free Agent signing but the Cubs got Dexter Fowler for two backups who weren't going to figure into their roster this year.

    A career 270/370 guy who last year hit 388/488 with no outs and nobody on base.

    I hope at this point the Cubs go after Zimmerman or Strasburg, either would be a nice single year addition and would/should make the Cubs the favorites to win the World Series.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeerAndPoker View Post
    The deal appears to be confirmed with the National for 7 years but I didn't see an amount mentioned yet.
    Just noticed Iggy is back at SS, nice.

    Nathan is back at closer. Nobody in minors. You hear anything?

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