Quote Originally Posted by FatalFlaws View Post
Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
Fatal Flaws aka Doug:

I am the owner of this site. My name is Todd Witteles. I have been in poker for 14 years, and have never once been accused of scamming or any other form of mishandling of bets or money.

I would like to volunteer to be an intermediary to accept the money. I'm pretty sure both duped_samaritan and George would be willing to state publicly that they are okay with this.

I have several major bank accounts, Paypal, and will even be happy to receive a check or money order in the mail from you.

How about you arrange to send ME the $1000, and I will make sure it gets to the right person.

This is not a joke. If you are serious about settling the matter, please strongly consider doing this (or just find a way to immediately pay these guys directly).

Furthermore, you can also deposit cash into a bank account without giving your identification. Just walk into a bank, say, "I want to deposit this cash into this account number for this person's name", and they will take it without question or identification. I know this for certain because I have a friend who does this for me frequently, when he needs to pay back loans I've made to him.
Hello Todd,

No offense, but I don't know you. I would not be comfortable handing over $1k to a complete stranger. As for depositing cash into a bank account, I have already outlined why I am not comfortable doing this above. Whether you show ID or not, the bank will have a record on camera of who deposited the money into the account. Then, as I explained above, if that same account is found to be used in connection with illegal activity, persons found to have deposited money into that account can be held criminally liable. This is a legal fact, I am not just making this up. Me and Finally agreed to meet last night at borg, I was there, he was not. I have no further interest in settling a debt with anyone other than the person that I made this bet with initially, in whatever way that we can both agree to. Also, I understand that this is your site, but I am only responding to this thread in response to finally posting on here that I am a scammer. I don't see how this is any of your business personally other than two people posting on your forums.
You are incorrect.

You can only be held criminally liable if they can link your deposit with an intent to fund criminal activity.

For example, let's say I e-mailed you, "Hey, I want to rob a bank next week, but can't afford a gun. Can you put $600 in my account so I can buy one?" If you agreed and then put $600 in my account, and later the police found our messages back and forth discussing what I would do with the $600, then you would be criminally liable.

But let's say you just decided to be nice and put $600 in my account because you like my radio show and wanted to show your appreciation. And then I go take out the $600 and buy a gun to rob a bank with it. You could NOT be held liable, as you were not knowingly funding criminal activity. It is absurd to say that you bear responsibility for what someone does with money after you gave it to them, if you originally gave the money for innocent purposes.

In this case, there is a long electronic trail of you owing the $1000 for a friendly wager related to poker, so there's no way you could ever be held responsible for what is done with that cash. Even if George subsequently shipped the money to ISIS to fund the next beheading, you would have a reasonable answer in that you owed this money as a result of a bet, and could prove it.

This is a ridiculous excuse on your part. If you feel I'm wrong, link me to a law on the books which supports your point.

Regardless, it is painfully obvious to me and everyone that you are dodging this debt. Your excuses are absurd, and this has dragged for months. There are many legal ways to transfer money which put you at ZERO risk, and you refuse. Instead, you keep demanding that the person meet you at a casino during a narrow window of time, and then when they agree, you don't show up.

Only a complete idiot would believe you are anything but a welcher here.

Rather than make idiotic excuses, why not just agree to a payment plan and be done with it?