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    Quote Originally Posted by TheXFactor View Post
    No need for a rematch, we know how this story ends.
    Mayweather would be more focused and would win yet another decision.
    Boxing is a business all about the money draw. Their are enough people that want to see a rematch for this fight regardless of how many people think it may finish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeerAndPoker View Post
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    No need for a rematch, we know how this story ends.
    Mayweather would be more focused and would win yet another decision.
    Boxing is a business all about the money draw. Their are enough people that want to see a rematch for this fight regardless of how many people think it may finish.
    An "over-the-hill" champion versus a fighter who has no possible way to win, that has the makings of a classic.



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    Quote Originally Posted by TheXFactor View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by BeerAndPoker View Post

    Boxing is a business all about the money draw. Their are enough people that want to see a rematch for this fight regardless of how many people think it may finish.
    An "over-the-hill" champion versus a fighter who has no possible way to win, that has the makings of a classic.


    Whether it does or doesn't boxing is all about the money so the rematch will most likely happen.

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    The 116-112 score was correct. Mayweather controlled the second half of the fight. The draw score is a disgrace. Maidana doesn't deserve a rematch, even though it was a competitive fight. He never even hurt Mayweather at any point. Khan will most likely get the September fight. I don't want to see that fight, but I also wouldn't want to have to watch another fight against Maidana, who would never beat Floyd if he got ten rematches.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HEX View Post
    The 116-112 score was correct. Mayweather controlled the second half of the fight. The draw score is a disgrace. Maidana doesn't deserve a rematch, even though it was a competitive fight. He never even hurt Mayweather at any point. Khan will most likely get the September fight. I don't want to see that fight, but I also wouldn't want to have to watch another fight against Maidana, who would never beat Floyd if he got ten rematches.
    Well I disagree as Mayweather was on the run most of the fight.

    I certainly didn't agree with the decision.

    However a rematch is prolly already in the works for the money.

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    Anyone scoring that fight for Maidana is either doing so out of blind hate for Mayweather, or because of Maidana's aggression. Chino threw a lot of punches, but he missed with the majority of them. Floyd picked him apart on the inside with those short sneaky punches. He was hitting Maidana at will. I think people are overreacting to Maidana's performance because he did better than expected. I was impressed that he did so well, but he still lost. Mayweather would win a rematch in a landslide.


    Khan says a September fight with Mayweather isn't possible because of Ramadan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JMM View Post
    Anyone scoring that fight for Maidana is either doing so out of blind hate for Mayweather, or because of Maidana's aggression. Chino threw a lot of punches, but he missed with the majority of them. Floyd picked him apart on the inside with those short sneaky punches. He was hitting Maidana at will. I think people are overreacting to Maidana's performance because he did better than expected. I was impressed that he did so well, but he still lost. Mayweather would win a rematch in a landslide.


    Khan says a September fight with Mayweather isn't possible because of Ramadan.
    Still disagree as I as I did fight in th ring myself.

    Agression should have won.

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    All I will say is I wasn't impressed with Mayweather one bit last night. I have no problem with the result and from watching the fight the judges results weren't really a surprise to me at all but lets face it Mayweather's performance was sub-par. Anyone who can't at least agree on that is a blinded Floyd fan boy who is either biased or just can't see reality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by son of lockman View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by JMM View Post
    Anyone scoring that fight for Maidana is either doing so out of blind hate for Mayweather, or because of Maidana's aggression. Chino threw a lot of punches, but he missed with the majority of them. Floyd picked him apart on the inside with those short sneaky punches. He was hitting Maidana at will. I think people are overreacting to Maidana's performance because he did better than expected. I was impressed that he did so well, but he still lost. Mayweather would win a rematch in a landslide.


    Khan says a September fight with Mayweather isn't possible because of Ramadan.
    Still disagree as I as I did fight in th ring myself.

    Agression should have won.
    Effective aggression wins. Throwing and missing doesn't. Having fought or not doesn't mean much. There's scoring criteria. Throwing the most punches doesn't = win.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeerAndPoker View Post
    All I will say is I wasn't impressed with Mayweather one bit last night. I have no problem with the result and from watching the fight the judges results weren't really a surprise to me at all but lets face it Mayweather's performance was sub-par. Anyone who can't at least agree on that is a blinded Floyd fan boy who is either biased or just can't see reality.
    He's definitely starting to slow down. His movement isn't as smooth as it used to be. His reaction time has appeared to slow quite a bit, too. Of course, he's also 37 years old. People like to act like Mayweather is the only fighter that isn't supposed to age.

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    Well we have have a rematch to make more money, so we'll see what happens.

    And yes age for Mayweather might make the difference this next time around.

    It has for all the other fighters who have ever fought.

    Joe Louis vs. Rocky Marciano

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    Mayweather will win a rematch much more convincingly. Maidana fought the absolute best fight he could, equipped with 100 rabbit punches, a few low blows and even a knee. And he still came up short. A for effort, but he's never beating Mayweather (nothing to be ashamed of).

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    Mayweather only has 3 to 5 fights left, say, and to waste one of those on a rematch with Maidana would be a damn shame. He's got Garcia, he's got Thurman, he's got Porter, even Matthysse or Provodnikov would be better than Maidana again. None of those guys can necessarily compete with Floyd any better than Maidana did, but he had his chance and lost to the better man, and Floyd needs to move on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by son of lockman View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by JMM View Post
    Anyone scoring that fight for Maidana is either doing so out of blind hate for Mayweather, or because of Maidana's aggression. Chino threw a lot of punches, but he missed with the majority of them. Floyd picked him apart on the inside with those short sneaky punches. He was hitting Maidana at will. I think people are overreacting to Maidana's performance because he did better than expected. I was impressed that he did so well, but he still lost. Mayweather would win a rematch in a landslide.


    Khan says a September fight with Mayweather isn't possible because of Ramadan.
    Still disagree as I as I did fight in th ring myself.

    Agression should have won.
    Being aggressive doesn't win fights, being effective does, and Mayweather was way more effective than Maidana, particularly in the second half of the fight. (Those coming-straight-down right hands Maidana throws are bizarre, btw.) You just don't like Floyd, obviously, and that's affecting your judgment.

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    i thought it was great that at post fight interview in the ring mayweather basically said he wasnt trying. He was just giving the viewers their moneyz worth dog.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HEX View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by son of lockman View Post

    Still disagree as I as I did fight in th ring myself.

    Agression should have won.
    Being aggressive doesn't win fights, being effective does, and Mayweather was way more effective than Maidana, particularly in the second half of the fight. (Those coming-straight-down right hands Maidana throws are bizarre, btw.) You just don't like Floyd, obviously, and that's affecting your judgment.
    Yeah, those hammer fist punches or whatever they are looked really weird, lol. He was trying to hit Mayweather on the top of the head.

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    So where was all the action there? lol

    LAS VEGAS – Fans said they feared for their lives after a "terrifying" crush of spectators injured at least 24 people after Floyd Mayweather's victory over Marcos Maidana at the MGM Grand Garden Arena on Saturday night.

    As supporters tried to leave the arena through a crowded passageway and into the main casino, eyewitnesses reported a "stampede" of people occurred.

    According to Eric Poleski, battalion chief for the Clark County Fire Department, 24 people were taken to local hospitals as a result of their injuries. Most were leg injuries, and those affected ranged in age from children to the elderly. The most serious injury was sustained by a woman in her mid 30s who suffered from a bad leg laceration.

    Poleski confirmed that a stampede-like crowd motion had taken place, sparked by fans mistaking a loud noise for a gunshot.

    "What happened was a temporary wall had fallen over and it made a loud bang and people assumed that shots were fired, so they started stampeding," Poleski said.

    Police and security guards attempt to clear the exit of the MGM Grand Garden Arena. (Yahoo Sports)
    MGM director of public relations Scott Ghertner said the property's management and security staff were looking into the situation and that a statement would be released Sunday.

    Boxing fan Dulce Castillo, who attended the Mayweather-Maidana bout, told Yahoo Sports that her 6-year-old son, Braulio, was being taken to the hospital after being trampled underfoot.

    "I just [felt] like the people [were] over me and I am scared and I am screaming very hard," Castillo said. "I said to my brother, 'Help me, help me, please.' My son is with people [on top of him]. I thought that we were dying, really."

    The official attendance of the fight was a sellout of 16,268, and following Mayweather's majority decision win, many of the fans attempted to leave through the upper concourse exit, which leads to the Garden Walk section of the MGM property and houses several eating establishments.

    Around 15 minutes after the conclusion of the fight, the crowd swell began to move violently to the right. An estimated 60 people took refuge in the ladies' restroom in order to avoid potential harm.

    Others were not so fortunate.

    A 64-year-old hotel photographer who gave his name as Carlos told Greg Heakes of the AFP news service that he was caught in an ugly stampede of between 300 to 400 people.

    "People just started yelling and screaming, and next thing I know some guy jumps over my table and hits me on the head," the man said. "People pushed the table back against the wall. There were a couple of ladies on the floor next to me. It was chaos."

    Former WBA super bantamweight champion Clarence "Bones" Adams and a friend assisted in pulling spectators out of the crush and to safety, with many of them taken to a holding area in the Hecho en Vegas restaurant, where they received medical attention.

    "All of a sudden we heard a loud rumble and people were falling," Adams said. "There was no gun shot. But there was nothing that could be done with the people in here. They were all getting hurt. A little kid got trampled on, all the tables were getting turned."

    "I was really scared," she said after being attended to by medical staff. "Everyone just started running. It was like a stampede."

    Another female victim, Kay from Maryland, spoke of how the terror of the situation meant this would be her first and last boxing event.

    The Blizz Frozen Yogurt shop immediately next to the main entrance to Grand Garden Arena was roped off and shut down as a female fan lay on the floor and received attention.

    A fan from Argentina described a fight scene in broken English, saying, "Everyone wants to fighting like crazy, no room to move."

    The section where the crush of people occurred is routinely jammed at the end of major events, including the fight between Manny Pacquiao and Timothy Bradley last month.

    The MGM this week announced plans for a new $350 million arena on The Strip that will be used to host major sporting events like the Mayweather fight and concerts.

    http://sports.yahoo.com/news/crush-o...090418467.html

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    Floyd Mayweather's unbeatable façade cracked Saturday, but as always, he came out a winner.

    http://sports.yahoo.com/news/floyd-m...09-boxing.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by JMM View Post
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    I hope you dont really think this. Those 2 have the most power/money in the sport and if they both really wanted to fight eachother it would happen regardless of anything.

    Ill say it till im blue in the face MM would be stupid to fight him. He will keep fighting guys that are 11-1 dogs until he beats Marcianos record.

    Its funny because whenever someone would say anything he would be like this guy is a tough fight for me. He knew he had to try and convince people of it so they buy the fight. He had to catch himself and others a few times on all access.
    Pacquiao has very little say over his career. He's Bob Arum's boy. Guy literally makes no decision whatsoever. I don't think it's a Mayweather/Pacquiao thing. I never have. I 100% believe that it's a Mayweather/Arum thing. And I believe that Arum knows what the outcome would be, and that's why he doesn't want his boy in with Mayweather. When Mayweather was a Top Rank fighter, Arum would routinely say "I've been around them all, Floyd's the best I've ever seen". It wasn't until Floyd left Arum, that he started "ducking" Top Rank fighters. Arum has been robbing Pacquiao blind for some time now. I mean, 6 fight, $75 million contract? For the 2nd biggest name in boxing? That's absurd. Pacquiao brings in a LOT more than that.

    Maidana isn't an 11/1 dog. Mayweather is 11/1 favorite. Maidana is 7/1. And he's only 7/1 against Mayweather. He'd be 4-1 against Pacquiao. It's not that Maidana is so bad, it's that Mayweather is so good. I mean, Canelo is a very high risk fight for ANYONE in boxing right now. He's considered a "cherry pick" for Mayweather. He's held to a pretty high standard (admittedly, he brings it on himself with all this "TBE" shit).

    As unlikely as it is, it wouldn't break my heart to see Maidana knock him out. I like Maidana a lot. And I've always wanted to see how Mayweather would act in defeat. I think he would be surprisingly humble.
    I hope you're not serious. Its clear you dont like Arum but noboddy tells MP anything. If he wants to fight someone they will do what he says and make it happen.

    Second part isnt true either. The great thing about MP is hes a huge draw win or lose. Hes not undefeated like MM. The only one concerned about losing is MM. If MM really cared about TBE he would demand a fight with MP, but he only cares about making money and whos to blame him.

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    I'm a a guy that gives rounds to the guy that is pushing the action. I still had the fight 115-113 for Mayweather. Mayweather's insane defense annoys me since it revolves around a lot of holding. He's still amazing but the only reason I watch his fights are in hope that he gets a beating like Broner did at the hands of Maidana. Our bar was only half full, I think a lot of people are losing interest. If he were only about the money he would lose a fight and make 4 times as much on the rematch. He clearly cares about his legacy.

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