Did the 49ers really just try to trade away Jim Harbaugh??

[NaturalBornHustler]

http://blogs.mercurynews.com/kawakam...what-it-means/

[JimmyG_415]

49s roster is loaded. IMO you could plug in just about anyone and they are a lock for 11 wins.

Well what happened w/Singletary then?
According to Serial Fail, we had Joe Montana w/ the best D ever????

& Serial Fail you are obv the new generation that only looks at stats and doesn't watch the games.
You will rack up good stats when you never throw the ball more than 10 yards down field.

Your stats are losing vs winning football, this isn't fantasy, you sabre metric loser.



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[JimmyG_415]

Fuck this thread, already

NBH stop acting like you have some inside info, we all know how to google, (expect roofie)

here is the link Serial Fail, and Mulva (and all you trolls) have been waiting for,
Careers in the NFL
https://www.nfl.apply2jobs.com/ProfE...earchInterface

I'm sure Jed would love to hear you explain why both Harbaugh and Balke are morons, and why Alex is better.

And Mulva, "draft manager" has ring to it doesn't it it?
Just show him you called it on Kaepernick. Maybe they can avoid 2nd round mistakes like him in the future.

[chinamaniac]

49s roster is loaded. IMO you could plug in just about anyone and they are a lock for 11 wins.

Well what happened w/Singletary then?
According to Serial Fail, we had Joe Montana w/ the best D ever????

& Serial Fail you are obv the new generation that only looks at stats and doesn't watch the games.
You will rack up good stats when you never throw the ball more than 10 yards down field.

Your stats are losing vs winning football, this isn't fantasy, you sabre metric loser.



,

Diff roster with Singletary, although some guys were there. I'm talking the team they have right now. Not like Harbaugh does anything out of this world that makes him some outstanding coach. I dont think hes bad but he aint some game changing football coach either

[vegas1369]

Well what happened w/Singletary then?
According to Serial Fail, we had Joe Montana w/ the best D ever????

& Serial Fail you are obv the new generation that only looks at stats and doesn't watch the games.
You will rack up good stats when you never throw the ball more than 10 yards down field.

Your stats are losing vs winning football, this isn't fantasy, you sabre metric loser.



,

Diff roster with Singletary, although some guys were there. I'm talking the team they have right now. Not like Harbaugh does anything out of this world that makes him some outstanding coach. I dont think hes bad but he aint some game changing football coach either

In other words, he ain't no Bill Belichick or Chip Kelly.

[son of lockman]

Harbaugh will be in S.F. this coming year as my belief. But cleveland sure could use a good coach.

[Serial Fail]

49s roster is loaded. IMO you could plug in just about anyone and they are a lock for 11 wins.

Well what happened w/Singletary then?
According to Serial Fail, we had Joe Montana w/ the best D ever????

& Serial Fail you are obv the new generation that only looks at stats and doesn't watch the games.
You will rack up good stats when you never throw the ball more than 10 yards down field.

Your stats are losing vs winning football, this isn't fantasy, you sabre metric loser.

You're a very angry person, aren't you?

Saying that Alex Smith is better than Kaepernick is far from claiming that he is Joe Montana.

You want winning football? Alex Smith took over a team that won 2 games a year ago and took them to the post season, that is winning football.


Throughout the entire course of the season Alex Smith threw for more yards and more touchdowns than Kaepernick did. He did it with Dwayne Bowe, Donnie Avery, and Dexter McCluster. Kaepernick spent all season throwing to guys like Vernon Davis and Anquan Bolden.

You can make all the unfounded claims that you want about how Alex doesn't throw the ball more than 10 yards down the field and that not being "winning football" but he threw for more yards, and more touchdowns which, the last time I checked, scores more points.

[NaturalBornHustler]

back on topic.....

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/writer/...-getting-worse

INDIANAPOLIS -- Things are not getting better behind the scenes for the San Francisco 49ers. There was a persistent rumble throughout the combine about the extent of the rift between coach Jim Harbaugh and the team's front office. It doesn't seem like it will go away, and there is increasing buzz that the team might have to decide between Harbaugh or GM Trent Baalke.

The men are barely speaking, I'm told, and almost all communication is through email. Harbaugh also has a strained relationship with team president Paraag Marathe, sources said, and he has clashed with many within the organization. It could prove untenable. If anything, the impression I got this week was that the situation there is actually much worse than how it has been portrayed in the media, and helps explain the delay in giving a new deal to the coach, who has two years left on a contract he has outperformed.

Harbaugh has done nothing but reach, at least, the NFC Championship Game since coming to San Francisco three years ago, and the longer this goes on, the worse it might get. To almost anyone I posited the question to, the response was pretty much the same -- there is no way they can't extend Harbaugh. But then again, in the NFL, you never know.

I've long expected Dolphins owner Stephen Ross to attempt to trade for Harbaugh, and we all know he already tried to hire him before firing a coach in the past. I'm also not surprised that the Browns made an attempt to land him as well, although, from what I have heard of that situation, Cleveland's approach did not get very far. Still, if other teams sense a vulnerability there, they will continue to explore, and it's hard to imagine Harbaugh coaching out a lame-duck year there in 2015 if he hasn't received an extension by then.

This is a matter that will need attention this offseason, one way or the other. When the 49ers landed Harbaugh, his intensity, personality, potential issues getting along with others, etc., were no secret. Some wondered how long it might be before issues arose, with Baalke also very intense and strong-willed himself. If they did in some way move on from him -- via a trade or whatever -- many believe defensive line coach Jim Tomsula would be positioned to slide in.

Perhaps owner Jed York can find a way to make this situation work long term and retain the many talented people he has assembled. He has proven to be a dynamic leader and a problem solver already.

[JimmyG_415]

the fight between these guys is nothing new,

but if it gets to a point where it is either me or him, kick Balke to the curb and move on.
Harbaugh is the shit,
we all thought Balke was for amassing this team, but the last 2 drafts sucked.

Harbaugh is a great coach, but he seems like he would be a cock sucker to work for or with.


This is Peter King this AM,
http://mmqb.si.com/2014/02/24/johnny...quarterback/5/

I’m not convinced Cleveland got very far down the road. Did Jed York get an offer of a draft pick or picks from Cleveland for coach Jim Harbaugh, mull it over, talk to his inner circle and decide not to accept it? Did he ask Harbaugh if this was something he really wanted? Or did York simply decide, “We’re not trading our coach?” We might never know, though my guess is the only way York would have agreed to consider a deal is if Harbaugh told him flatly he wanted to take the Cleveland job. But what would trouble me about the story is how far down the road it got. Harbaugh clearly hasn’t gotten the money he thinks he deserves for leading the Niners to three straight playoff appearances, including a Super Bowl—for making the Niners a star franchise again. He’s entering year four of a five-year deal, which pays him $5 million a year. The Niners and Harbaugh have tried to do an extension but failed. And now you have to think his future beyond this year is murky at best. The Niners are unlikely to break the bank for a coach who hasn’t won a Super Bowl, and even if they win the Super Bowl next season and make Harbaugh an $8-million-a-year coach, is there any guarantee he’ll be happy with that contract for an extended period? The one thing the Pro Football Talk report leaves in its wake is the impression this story, and Harbaugh’s wanderlust, is not over.

back on topic.....

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/writer/...-getting-worse

INDIANAPOLIS -- Things are not getting better behind the scenes for the San Francisco 49ers. There was a persistent rumble throughout the combine about the extent of the rift between coach Jim Harbaugh and the team's front office. It doesn't seem like it will go away, and there is increasing buzz that the team might have to decide between Harbaugh or GM Trent Baalke.

The men are barely speaking, I'm told, and almost all communication is through email. Harbaugh also has a strained relationship with team president Paraag Marathe, sources said, and he has clashed with many within the organization. It could prove untenable. If anything, the impression I got this week was that the situation there is actually much worse than how it has been portrayed in the media, and helps explain the delay in giving a new deal to the coach, who has two years left on a contract he has outperformed.

Harbaugh has done nothing but reach, at least, the NFC Championship Game since coming to San Francisco three years ago, and the longer this goes on, the worse it might get. To almost anyone I posited the question to, the response was pretty much the same -- there is no way they can't extend Harbaugh. But then again, in the NFL, you never know.

I've long expected Dolphins owner Stephen Ross to attempt to trade for Harbaugh, and we all know he already tried to hire him before firing a coach in the past. I'm also not surprised that the Browns made an attempt to land him as well, although, from what I have heard of that situation, Cleveland's approach did not get very far. Still, if other teams sense a vulnerability there, they will continue to explore, and it's hard to imagine Harbaugh coaching out a lame-duck year there in 2015 if he hasn't received an extension by then.

This is a matter that will need attention this offseason, one way or the other. When the 49ers landed Harbaugh, his intensity, personality, potential issues getting along with others, etc., were no secret. Some wondered how long it might be before issues arose, with Baalke also very intense and strong-willed himself. If they did in some way move on from him -- via a trade or whatever -- many believe defensive line coach Jim Tomsula would be positioned to slide in.

Perhaps owner Jed York can find a way to make this situation work long term and retain the many talented people he has assembled. He has proven to be a dynamic leader and a problem solver already.

[JimmyG_415]

the fight between these guys is nothing new, I just don't think Cleveland was as close to landing him as they are saying. Anyone can make an offer.

but if it gets to a point where it is either me or him, kick Balke to the curb and move on.
Harbaugh is the shit,
we all thought Balke was for amassing this team, but the last 2 drafts sucked.

Harbaugh is a great coach, but he seems like he would be a cock sucker to work for or with.


This is Peter King this AM,
http://mmqb.si.com/2014/02/24/johnny...quarterback/5/

I’m not convinced Cleveland got very far down the road. Did Jed York get an offer of a draft pick or picks from Cleveland for coach Jim Harbaugh, mull it over, talk to his inner circle and decide not to accept it? Did he ask Harbaugh if this was something he really wanted? Or did York simply decide, “We’re not trading our coach?” We might never know, though my guess is the only way York would have agreed to consider a deal is if Harbaugh told him flatly he wanted to take the Cleveland job. But what would trouble me about the story is how far down the road it got. Harbaugh clearly hasn’t gotten the money he thinks he deserves for leading the Niners to three straight playoff appearances, including a Super Bowl—for making the Niners a star franchise again. He’s entering year four of a five-year deal, which pays him $5 million a year. The Niners and Harbaugh have tried to do an extension but failed. And now you have to think his future beyond this year is murky at best. The Niners are unlikely to break the bank for a coach who hasn’t won a Super Bowl, and even if they win the Super Bowl next season and make Harbaugh an $8-million-a-year coach, is there any guarantee he’ll be happy with that contract for an extended period? The one thing the Pro Football Talk report leaves in its wake is the impression this story, and Harbaugh’s wanderlust, is not over.

back on topic.....

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/writer/...-getting-worse

INDIANAPOLIS -- Things are not getting better behind the scenes for the San Francisco 49ers. There was a persistent rumble throughout the combine about the extent of the rift between coach Jim Harbaugh and the team's front office. It doesn't seem like it will go away, and there is increasing buzz that the team might have to decide between Harbaugh or GM Trent Baalke.

The men are barely speaking, I'm told, and almost all communication is through email. Harbaugh also has a strained relationship with team president Paraag Marathe, sources said, and he has clashed with many within the organization. It could prove untenable. If anything, the impression I got this week was that the situation there is actually much worse than how it has been portrayed in the media, and helps explain the delay in giving a new deal to the coach, who has two years left on a contract he has outperformed.

Harbaugh has done nothing but reach, at least, the NFC Championship Game since coming to San Francisco three years ago, and the longer this goes on, the worse it might get. To almost anyone I posited the question to, the response was pretty much the same -- there is no way they can't extend Harbaugh. But then again, in the NFL, you never know.

I've long expected Dolphins owner Stephen Ross to attempt to trade for Harbaugh, and we all know he already tried to hire him before firing a coach in the past. I'm also not surprised that the Browns made an attempt to land him as well, although, from what I have heard of that situation, Cleveland's approach did not get very far. Still, if other teams sense a vulnerability there, they will continue to explore, and it's hard to imagine Harbaugh coaching out a lame-duck year there in 2015 if he hasn't received an extension by then.

This is a matter that will need attention this offseason, one way or the other. When the 49ers landed Harbaugh, his intensity, personality, potential issues getting along with others, etc., were no secret. Some wondered how long it might be before issues arose, with Baalke also very intense and strong-willed himself. If they did in some way move on from him -- via a trade or whatever -- many believe defensive line coach Jim Tomsula would be positioned to slide in.

Perhaps owner Jed York can find a way to make this situation work long term and retain the many talented people he has assembled. He has proven to be a dynamic leader and a problem solver already.

[JimmyG_415]

This is really a big deal about nothing.
Harbaugh rubs everyone the wrong way, San Diego U, Stanford, his 1st wife, his players, other players, other coaches, his own coaches, the media, he just cares about winning, nothing else.

He is not only a winner, but can turn programs around.
The 49ers hadn't been to the playoffs in 7-8 years when he got there, and who would have ever thought Stanford would be in 4 BCS bowls in a row?
They were like 40 point dog's to USC his first season. As accomplished as Harbaugh is though, his football knowledge pales in comparison to Mulva's and Serial Fail's, obviously.




http://blog.sfgate.com/killion/2014/...-absolutely-2/

..............................Jed York – who denied the report on Friday on Twitter – told Sports Illustrated’s Peter King that, “The Browns reached out to me, and we had no interest in pursuing it.” Sources told me the entire interaction between the 49ers and the Browns lasted all of 15 minutes.

[JimmyG_415]

This says it all,
this "trade" was nothing but some BS, and this rift is old news.

Its not like it started after the Seattle game, and now the demise is on, it has been here since before the superbowl last year.
It is part of working w/Jim Harbaugh it seems.


http://thefootballgirl.com/news-and-...absurdity.html

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Where exactly do we see evidence that this “strained relationship” has affected the team? When the 49ers played in the NFC Championship last year? Or how about in the Super Bowl the year before? - See more at: http://thefootballgirl.com/news-and-....ZYRr9yri.dpuf........................................

[JimmyG_415]

Well what happened w/Singletary then?
According to Serial Fail, we had Joe Montana w/ the best D ever????

& Serial Fail you are obv the new generation that only looks at stats and doesn't watch the games.
You will rack up good stats when you never throw the ball more than 10 yards down field.

Your stats are losing vs winning football, this isn't fantasy, you sabre metric loser.



,

Diff roster with Singletary, although some guys were there. I'm talking the team they have right now. Not like Harbaugh does anything out of this world that makes him some outstanding coach. I dont think hes bad but he ain't some game changing football coach either

Don't see how anyone can say that that.

Stanford football, pre Harbaugh was crap.

3 straight NFC champions w/ a team that hadn't been in the playoffs in 7yrs
it was pretty much the same team,
Alex, Gore, Crabtree, Davis
Willis +Spikes , instead of Willis and Bowman
The secondary was better. DL is about the same, but for sure we had a better OL then, than now. (probably peaked Harbaugh's 1st season.)

He takes teams other coaches can't win with, and wins.
If he left the 49ers, he wouldn't be out of a job for 2 minutes.



Balke is the one who has the shaky resume.
No previous experience, they made it sound like Singletary had no say on draft day, but now it is pretty apparent it wasn't all Balke that amassed this team.
AJ jenkins as a 1st round pick? then we pass on CAL's Keenan Allen????

Seattle's GM, that guy is the shit. He doesn't listen to nay sayers, after the draft 2 years ago, it was ranked at the bottom.
Then, look how many of those guys were part of that SB team?
Including Wilson who beat out Matt Flynn, and his monster contract, in training camp.

[mulva]

maybe kap will take his swag and MVP level play to cleveland as well.

[chinamaniac]

Diff roster with Singletary, although some guys were there. I'm talking the team they have right now. Not like Harbaugh does anything out of this world that makes him some outstanding coach. I dont think hes bad but he ain't some game changing football coach either

Don't see how anyone can say that that.

Stanford football, pre Harbaugh was crap.

3 straight NFC champions w/ a team that hadn't been in the playoffs in 7yrs
it was pretty much the same team,
Alex, Gore, Crabtree, Davis
Willis +Spikes , instead of Willis and Bowman
The secondary was better. DL is about the same, but for sure we had a better OL then, than now. (probably peaked Harbaugh's 1st season.)

He takes teams other coaches can't win with, and wins.
If he left the 49ers, he wouldn't be out of a job for 2 minutes.



Balke is the one who has the shaky resume.
No previous experience, they made it sound like Singletary had no say on draft day, but now it is pretty apparent it wasn't all Balke that amassed this team.
AJ jenkins as a 1st round pick? then we pass on CAL's Keenan Allen????

Seattle's GM, that guy is the shit. He doesn't listen to nay sayers, after the draft 2 years ago, it was ranked at the bottom.
Then, look how many of those guys were part of that SB team?
Including Wilson who beat out Matt Flynn, and his monster contract, in training camp.

The stanford job I give him a ton of credit for. 49s he gets credit too but it isnt like he went into some situation with no talent here either. Lot of teams go through lumps then get better, the 49s were always considered pretty talented before he got there but they lacked experience and their Oline was not as good as it is now.

[JimmyG_415]

Don't see how anyone can say that that.

Stanford football, pre Harbaugh was crap.

3 straight NFC champions w/ a team that hadn't been in the playoffs in 7yrs
it was pretty much the same team,
Alex, Gore, Crabtree, Davis
Willis +Spikes , instead of Willis and Bowman
The secondary was better. DL is about the same, but for sure we had a better OL then, than now. (probably peaked Harbaugh's 1st season.)

He takes teams other coaches can't win with, and wins.
If he left the 49ers, he wouldn't be out of a job for 2 minutes.



Balke is the one who has the shaky resume.
No previous experience, they made it sound like Singletary had no say on draft day, but now it is pretty apparent it wasn't all Balke that amassed this team.
AJ jenkins as a 1st round pick? then we pass on CAL's Keenan Allen????

Seattle's GM, that guy is the shit. He doesn't listen to nay sayers, after the draft 2 years ago, it was ranked at the bottom.
Then, look how many of those guys were part of that SB team?
Including Wilson who beat out Matt Flynn, and his monster contract, in training camp.

The stanford job I give him a ton of credit for. 49s he gets credit too but it isnt like he went into some situation with no talent here either. Lot of teams go through lumps then get better, the 49s were always considered pretty talented before he got there but they lacked experience and their Oline was not as good as it is now.

49ers had had talent for days, and no one could do shit w/it.
Takes that same team and they go 13-3. Fuck that, Harbaugh is the reason there is a new stadium coming.

Our O line sucks, now, that is why Gore sucked so bad this year.
He had no holes,
Those same guys were blasting holes in 2011.

sorry Serial, you won't see insight like this in a box score.

[JimmyG_415]

So the answer to your thread title NO.
Did Cleveland make an offer to SF for Harbaugh Yes.

There was nothing close to a "done deal".

Multiple sources are reporting a trade was all but a done deal to send Harbaugh to Cleveland as their new coach for multiple drafts picks but Harbaugh was able to nix the deal. First wtf is San Fran thinking trying to send away the guy who turned around a disaster with Mike Singletary to three straight NFC title games and a trip to SB 47. Is there really that much heat between him and the GM?? Now one has to wonder what Harbaugh must think when the team tries to ship him off for draft picks.

[Hockey Guy]

So the answer to your thread title NO.
Did Cleveland make an offer to SF for Harbaugh Yes.

There was nothing close to a "done deal".

Multiple sources are reporting a trade was all but a done deal to send Harbaugh to Cleveland as their new coach for multiple drafts picks but Harbaugh was able to nix the deal. First wtf is San Fran thinking trying to send away the guy who turned around a disaster with Mike Singletary to three straight NFC title games and a trip to SB 47. Is there really that much heat between him and the GM?? Now one has to wonder what Harbaugh must think when the team tries to ship him off for draft picks.

I understand it's a story about your team but I'm not sure why you seem to be so upset that it got posted here & the title. Every news outlet has reported it so it's not like he pulled it out of his ass & posted here just to piss you off. There's validity to the story & we'll probably never know exactly who contacted who or how close it was to actually happening.

In the meantime you have a really great team & a seemingly very good coach so enjoy the ride. It's not worth getting pissed off about.

[JimmyG_415]

I'm not mad about that, I just think NBH acting like he is Anderson Cooper on the scoop is a bit much.

I'm pointing out the title of the thread, I haven't seen one story that made it sounds like it was the 49ers who approached Cleveland.

"Did Cleveland really try to trade for Jim Harbaugh", would be the way it should have read.

Big difference, but NBH knew what he was doing, that wouldn't sell in a troll heavy website.

So the answer to your thread title NO.
Did Cleveland make an offer to SF for Harbaugh Yes.

There was nothing close to a "done deal".

I understand it's a story about your team but I'm not sure why you seem to be so upset that it got posted here & the title. Every news outlet has reported it so it's not like he pulled it out of his ass & posted here just to piss you off. There's validity to the story & we'll probably never know exactly who contacted who or how close it was to actually happening.

In the meantime you have a really great team & a seemingly very good coach so enjoy the ride. It's not worth getting pissed off about.

[nunbeater]

Great, now you guys have Jimmy so tilted he is quoting you backwards. Great job fuckwads