woohoo government shutdown

[DirtyB]

You know he never said that, right?

True, he never used the word invented. He just took the "initiative" in "creating" the internet. Also Mr. Kotter was not real which might have indicated to you that 4D was making a joke.

He's talking about his accomplishments in Congress. He sponsored legislation that turned the internet from a Department of Defense network into a civilian network.

You and 4dragons believe all kinds of bullshit that idiots tell you. I just wanted to clarify that one.

[tony bagadonuts]

Heres a fucked up proof the government just operates on funny money. Ok there is no budget hence things are shut down YET they now have more security and shit up at monuments in DC then are normally present when they were
"Open to the public" If that isnt the definition of Government stupidity I dont know what is and where in the budget is this stupidity being paid for obviously we need to start there with budget cuts to save money. I mean God forbid people actually go to an open area location and walk up the steps at the Lincoln Memorial when the government is shut down.. Seriously WTF..

You have no idea what you are talking about yet I basically agree with you.

Strange.

[DirtyB]

I mean God forbid people actually go to an open area location and walk up the steps at the Lincoln Memorial when the government is shut down.. Seriously WTF..

In a week, the entire Lincoln Memorial would be ankle deep in garbage. Mobs of tourists are amazingly filthy. These places are closed because there's nobody available to clean them.

Of course the whole thing is ridiculous. Plenty of the top people openly admit that its ridiculous. But Ted Cruz and a handful of Congressmen, backed by a small but very vocal group of supporters, want to fuck the government up as much as possible. Unfortunately they have the ability to do so.

When Grover Norquist thinks you're a dumbass, you're a huge dumbass-

"Cruz said he would deliver the votes and he didn’t deliver any Democratic votes. He pushed House Republicans into traffic and wandered away."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...wandered-away/

[4Dragons]

True, he never used the word invented. He just took the "initiative" in "creating" the internet. Also Mr. Kotter was not real which might have indicated to you that 4D was making a joke.

He's talking about his accomplishments in Congress. He sponsored legislation that turned the internet from a Department of Defense network into a civilian network.

You and 4dragons believe all kinds of bullshit that idiots tell you. I just wanted to clarify that one.

Only thing that you have clarified again and again is that on whatever the topic is that you have to suck the enjoyment out of any and every conversation. It's as if your point is so crucial that you are right that all of your other arguments will somehow unravel if even one pixel of your Matrix is out of whack. Problem is that your cat has been running backwards throughout history. Lighten the fuck up.

[DirtyB]

He's talking about his accomplishments in Congress. He sponsored legislation that turned the internet from a Department of Defense network into a civilian network.

You and 4dragons believe all kinds of bullshit that idiots tell you. I just wanted to clarify that one.

Only thing that you have clarified again and again is that on whatever the topic is that you have to suck the enjoyment out of any and every conversation. It's as if your point is so crucial that you are right that all of your other arguments will somehow unravel if even one pixel of your Matrix is out of whack. Problem is that your cat has been running backwards throughout history. Lighten the fuck up.

You think that a joke involving Welcome Back Kotter and Al Gore is enjoyable for other people? Seriously?

[shortbuspoker]

He's talking about his accomplishments in Congress. He sponsored legislation that turned the internet from a Department of Defense network into a civilian network.

You and 4dragons believe all kinds of bullshit that idiots tell you. I just wanted to clarify that one.

Defend your narrowsightedness until the end Barry. All I did was post a video where Al Gore said point blank " During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in creating the Internet ". That was not Rush Limbaugh or Glenn Beck making things up.

That is not anyone putting any words in anyone else's mouth. It is not out of context. Those are his words verbatim. Just admit that he is either that full of himself or he misspoke.

[TheXFactor]

This partial government shutdown is nothing.

Wait a couple of weeks, when they don't raise the debt ceiling and watch the U.S. economy burn.

Did the Tea Party Republicans invest in Bitcoins and Gold?

These Republican Tea Party fanatics want the American economy to fail just so they can blame Obama and the democrats.

[Daly]

This partial government shutdown is nothing.

Wait a couple of weeks, when they don't raise the debt ceiling and watch the U.S. economy burn.

Did the Tea Party Republicans invest in Bitcoins and Gold?

These Republican Tea Party fanatics want the American economy to fail just so they can blame Obama and the democrats.

I'll make a small bet with you that either they raise the debt ceiling or they get a federal judge to rule that the debt ceiling in it's self is unconstitutional by Halloween.

This is all nothing more then Kabuki theater by Boehner because he knows in the end he is going to have to caucus with the moderate Democrats to get something passed.

[Daly]

This partial government shutdown is nothing.

Wait a couple of weeks, when they don't raise the debt ceiling and watch the U.S. economy burn.

Did the Tea Party Republicans invest in Bitcoins and Gold?

These Republican Tea Party fanatics want the American economy to fail just so they can blame Obama and the democrats.

I'll make a small bet with you that either they raise the debt ceiling or they get a federal judge to rule that the debt ceiling in it's self is unconstitutional by Halloween.

This is all nothing more then Kabuki theater by Boehner because he knows in the end he is going to have to caucus with the moderate Democrats to get something passed.

Boom. Boehner just said he is willing to cacus with the left and violate the "hastert rule"

[bottomset_69]

He's talking about his accomplishments in Congress. He sponsored legislation that turned the internet from a Department of Defense network into a civilian network.

You and 4dragons believe all kinds of bullshit that idiots tell you. I just wanted to clarify that one.

Only thing that you have clarified again and again is that on whatever the topic is that you have to suck the enjoyment out of any and every conversation. It's as if your point is so crucial that you are right that all of your other arguments will somehow unravel if even one pixel of your Matrix is out of whack. Problem is that your cat has been running backwards throughout history. Lighten the fuck up.

Exactly. Guy has claimed for years how delusional many posters are and how he is the beacon of truth, and how much smarter he is than everyone else. It's like a broken record. He apparently watches MSNBC every night, gets "educated" and comes on here and posts in a condescending fashion, as if somehow parroting some left wing ideologues makes him intelligent.

He did what he could to drive posters away from NWP, to the point he relished when rival sites like Venom, Tyde, opened up to, in turn, make a smaller more intelligent social forum he could thrive in. That was his goal, he stated it over and over: Posters he did not like to simply go away to other sites so he could have more intellectually stimulating conversations with his online friends.

Well, GUESS THE FUCK WHAT? He has his supreme forum now, its called DONKDOWN. He finally has what he wants but he is over here now with the same old "I am smarter than you gimmick".

I sense a person devoid of real life male companionship.

[Rollo Tomasi]

I'll take a guess and say they counted overall page hits and not just uniques. SOP for people more involved in making something look good, than it being any good.

Nope. Actual hits was 645,000 with 514,000 unique. My question is whether they were so incompetent that they fucked up the count or if they thought that they could get away with inflating the numbers but got caught.

Report: > 1% signed up

[Corrigan]

Report: > 1% signed up

Just to be clear here Rollo: you wanted to say that less than 1% of people signed up, but you are a grown man that doesn't know the difference between < and >

[cmoney]

[bukowski72]

Now we can understand why Fox had to try and call it a slimdown instead of a shutdown because too many people know it is a Republican political ploy and blamed Repubs.

Fox News Poll Finds Disapproval Of GOP Skyrocketing After They Shut Down Government
Bad News is everywhere for the Republican Party. Even the Fox News poll has found disapproval of the Republican Party jumping to 59% in their latest poll.

According to the Fox News poll, disapproval of the Republican Party has jumped from 46% in September of 2012 to 59% today. Disapproval of the GOP has climbed from 54% in January to 56% in April to nearing 60% today. Approval of the Republican Party has fallen from 45% to 35%. In contrast, Democratic Party unfavorability has stayed stable in the Fox poll at between 48% and 49% all through 2013.
http://www.politicususa.com/2013/10/...overnment.html


Fox News Poll: Voters support ObamaCare delay, disapprove of Congress
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/inte...rove-congress/

[bottomset_69]

I hope the Republicans dig in for months. This is healthy. I get the fact Republicans will be in the minority for quite some time, this is what happens when you give the vast majority a bunch of free shit and the other party (Republicans) object. The societal losers will always side with the faction that gives them something for doing nothing.

At the end of the day, the parties of each political spectrum do not matter. A loser will always be a loser.

My back was up against the wall 5 years ago, and I could have sank into despair and have declared myself a victim. Instead, I pulled it together and became a remarkable success story.

I really don't understand anyone making over six figures supporting Democrats. I get the $40,000 a year bitter stiff jealous of the banker in a limo, that is part of life. Been happening since the beginning of time.

It's going to be hilarious when the saps supporting Obamacare see their premiums triple and they will be like WTF?

I personally don't give a shit. My biggest worry right now is what vacation destination I am going to New Years week.

[Corrigan]

[BCR]

Now we can understand why Fox had to try and call it a slimdown instead of a shutdown because too many people know it is a Republican political ploy and blamed Repubs.

Fox News Poll Finds Disapproval Of GOP Skyrocketing After They Shut Down Government
Bad News is everywhere for the Republican Party. Even the Fox News poll has found disapproval of the Republican Party jumping to 59% in their latest poll.

According to the Fox News poll, disapproval of the Republican Party has jumped from 46% in September of 2012 to 59% today. Disapproval of the GOP has climbed from 54% in January to 56% in April to nearing 60% today. Approval of the Republican Party has fallen from 45% to 35%. In contrast, Democratic Party unfavorability has stayed stable in the Fox poll at between 48% and 49% all through 2013.
http://www.politicususa.com/2013/10/...overnment.html


Fox News Poll: Voters support ObamaCare delay, disapprove of Congress
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/inte...rove-congress/

Given the average Fox viewer's love of Paula Deen, and their abject fear that the government is going to put a limit on their pork rinds, calling it a slimdown is probably a bad line to take if you're looking to spin a wildly unpopular decision into something that has support. They hear slimdown, they just hit the disapprove button without even hearing the rest of the question.

Slimdown is kind of a good analogy though. This isn't that different than a diet. The budget is obese, and much like it's populace, it loves to discuss how bloated our debt belly is, but when it comes to actually cutting weight, it cringes and disapproves as soon as it's time for any real work to be put in. That post from Cmoney is pretty accurate in regards to how the average American budgets. They are $20k in the hole, and rather than cut out the $8 Starbucks they have every morning, or the $200 monthly cell phone bill, they will drop Showtime, save $7 a month, and call it a day. Then they'll add it back on a month later when they want to watch Shameless. That our government reflects the people who put them there is not really a shocker.

I know the provocateurs that are pulling this off are mainly concerned about defunding Obamacare, so put them to the test. For every cut they want to make, go dollar for dollar on defense spending vs. what they want to cut. Spending .58 out of every dollar spent by the rest of the world on defense is the entire pizza consumed nightly that has caused this giant belly of debt. If we only outspent China 3-1, instead of the present 6-1, that's a lot of fucking money. Put that on the table dollar for dollar, and we'll see where the cards fall. Even if the tea party faction is down for that, the problem is that would meet extreme resistance from both sides, hence why we are so fucked up as a country.

[Deal]

What is this talk of universal health care and reduction in defense spending? Are you trying to become Canada?

[PLOL]

What is this talk of universal health care and reduction in defense spending? Are you trying to become Canada?

You mean become a country with online poker? That'd be nice

[bottomset_69]

What is this talk of universal health care and reduction in defense spending? Are you trying to become Canada?

You mean become a country with online poker? That'd be nice

I love it when people point to a country like Sweden, which has the population of New Mexico, and say "see it works there it can work here". LOL. There are 325 Million people in this country, half of which are fucking obese and broke. Most of these people generally die from diabetic shock or heart disease in their 50s. To know give them full access to the health care system, my God, they will be in the emergency room every other week and live to they are 90.

The beauty of all of this all, the health conscious liberals that supported Obama and worked the phone banks for free in 2012, will now see their health care costs triple. We'll see how they like that when they have to cancel their vacations.