Is PFA really the #5 poker forum in the world?

[Dan Druff]

I will admit that I haven't checked non-English poker forums, but from what I can see (from Alexa stats), PFA has the highest traffic aside from Twoplustwo, Pocketfives, Pokerstrategy, and Cardschat.

Cardschat is an SEO monster, and made a fortune during the years when affiliate programs were very profitable.

This, in turn, made their forums active, though it appears to be mostly dry poker content.

Alexa does rankings by monitoring the internet usage of people with the Alexa plugin installed. If you don't have the Alexa plugin, your traffic is meaningless to Alexa. This is the biggest flaw with Alexa's rating system, but it's still the best metric out there. For this reason, Alexa tends to favor sites with more non-internet-savvy users (since they are more likely to install garbage plug-ins like Alexa), but that would actually imply that PFA has MORE traffic than Alexa is showing, since most of our users are net-savvy.

Anyway, here are the traffic rankings right now for select poker forums. Lower number is better. For example, google is ranked 1.

PokerStrategy: 3,475
TwoPlusTwo: 7,233
Pocketfives: 36,911
Cardschat: 50,030
PFA: 173,878
PartTimePoker: 189,166
FullContactPoker: 281,468
InternetTexasHoldem: 288,878
DD: 422,829

There are a number above 500,000 that I didn't bother to list.

Am I missing something here? Admittedly, we are a distant 5th (though probably closer to Cardschat than it appears due to a lot of their traffic being non-forum-related), but I'll be happy with 5th if it's true.

[SrslySirius]

Don't forget FlopTurnRiver. Rank: 120,276

[Dan Druff]

Don't forget FlopTurnRiver. Rank: 120,276

We've officially fallen to #6.

Can we hold on before slipping out of the top 10?

[anonamoose]

people still go to p5's?

[SrslySirius]

Don't forget FlopTurnRiver. Rank: 120,276

We've officially fallen to #6.

Can we hold on before slipping out of the top 10?

Liquidpoker.net?

Rank: 148,739

[Dan Druff]

We've officially fallen to #6.

Can we hold on before slipping out of the top 10?

Liquidpoker.net?

Rank: 148,739

[Fergie72]

people still go to p5's?

I used to be active there until they "upgraded" the forum. Now its been years since Ive even browsed p5s.

[SrslySirius]

deucescracked.com - Rank: 114,635

[Jasep]

LOL

podcastvegas.com
Keywords: las vegas poker, las vegas poker radio, podcasts, bluefirepoker, black women

WAT?

[BetCheckBet]

casinomeister.com
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Alexa Traffic Rank: 39,349

Not 100% poker but anyone who plays for a living should be familiar with it.

[Deal]

people still go to p5's?

I used to be active there until they "upgraded" the forum. Now its been years since Ive even browsed p5s.

Ditto, same can be said for DD. I never did the pw migration to 2.0
Ever since 2+2 reserved 1/4 of the screen for ads I stopped visiting there too.

[Dan Druff]

casinomeister.com
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Alexa Traffic Rank: 39,349

Not 100% poker but anyone who plays for a living should be familiar with it.

Can't count this one because it's a multi-purpose site, with poker just being one of them.

Also I can't count deucescracked, since I believe the majority of traffic comes from their coaching service rather than their forum.

Same reason I didn't count Pokernews (which also has a forum, and whose traffic is greater than PFA's), because most people are visiting Pokernews for news, not the forum.

[Jasep]

casinomeister.com
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Alexa Traffic Rank: 39,349

Not 100% poker but anyone who plays for a living should be familiar with it.

Can't count this one because it's a multi-purpose site, with poker just being one of them.

Also I can't count deucescracked, since I believe the majority of traffic comes from their coaching service rather than their forum.

Same reason I didn't count Pokernews (which also has a forum, and whose traffic is greater than PFA's), because most people are visiting Pokernews for news, not the forum.

Isn't that pretty much exactly this website?

[Dan Druff]

Can't count this one because it's a multi-purpose site, with poker just being one of them.

Also I can't count deucescracked, since I believe the majority of traffic comes from their coaching service rather than their forum.

Same reason I didn't count Pokernews (which also has a forum, and whose traffic is greater than PFA's), because most people are visiting Pokernews for news, not the forum.

Isn't that pretty much exactly this website?

No, this website is almost all current and former poker players (some pro, some amateur), who also talk about a lot of other subjects.

Casinomeister is pretty much a site focusing on all online casinos, which is a much broader topic.

[DRK Star]

blackwhorepoker.com

how is that one doing?

[zealanddonk]

LOL

podcastvegas.com
Keywords: black women

WAT?

If the Iceman ever gets his #1 N-Nightlife site back up and running with a poker forum you'll have stiff competition for sure.

[ErickAA]

I have never even heard of "pokerstrategy." I just visited the site and checked out the forums, and although there are a lot of subforums, each subforum only has a few posts per day, some less than that.

As far as actual forum activity I would say this forum has about the same amount of activity as that site, and 2+2 is magnitudes larger.

As far as actual forum activity, I would guess 2+2 is more than all the others combined, although much of this is non poker related.

[PLOL]

You really should measure it by US traffic rank, where you are #33,758. Because if you want to say "in the world" there's prob some Spanish poker forums or whatever that are pretty big but you've never heard of. And I think I help out by having the Alexa toolbar. I know you can somehow look up by city, and you're probably pretty high up in Orlando.

[ShadyJ]

I have never even heard of "pokerstrategy." I just visited the site and checked out the forums, and although there are a lot of subforums, each subforum only has a few posts per day, some less than that.

As far as actual forum activity I would say this forum has about the same amount of activity as that site, and 2+2 is magnitudes larger.

As far as actual forum activity, I would guess 2+2 is more than all the others combined, although much of this is non poker related.

Its big outside the US. One of my guys is a coach there and he gave me his log in info to watch some vids because US arent allowed, and even using his info I couldnt get on.

[SrslySirius]

You really should measure it by US traffic rank, where you are #33,758. Because if you want to say "in the world" there's prob some Spanish poker forums or whatever that are pretty big but you've never heard of. And I think I help out by having the Alexa toolbar. I know you can somehow look up by city, and you're probably pretty high up in Orlando.

I wonder how easily these stats could be manipulated by using that toolbar.