oh yeah it's no mystery to me dude I just started getting pissed at the whole black fatigue thing. Like where do you think we go next, time to round up the black people cause a bunch of white pussies are fatigued of them?Originally Posted by Sloppy Joe
Why is this a mystery, time has proven druff is friends with a retard and enjoys being humiliated by him.
Speculate all you want as to why, but it's just established fact now. Been ongoing for years, right?
Druff- You refuse to click on any of the information posted and get informed. "Black Fatigue" is NOT something I made up, you just made up that idea here. Black Fatigue is a national term and internet push back as most of the nation is tired of the constant crime wave, public attacks, stealing and store destruction. Make talking about a national issue thats posted on X daily does make this board look back, its the N word posted here hundreds of times that can be easily found with a search. Note- I never posted the N word here.
Again, not my term, thats something you made up here to make me the bad guy here. The shared tweets speak for themselves, you need to actually click on them to understand it.Your term and your shared tweets about it are very different than pointing out high crime in black communities, or high crime rates in general regarding black men. One is pointing out data-driven facts, and the other is claiming "fatigue" with an entire race.
Everything I have posted here has been legit, non-biased and the material speaks for itself.By the way, it's also fine to point out when the media is covering up crimes by black people, such as when they hesitated to cover the horrendous train stabbing of that Ukrainian immigrant girl. That's an indictment of the mainstream media, and is fair to discuss and point out.
False, that is something made up. Again, "black fatigue" is NOT my term, its a national term, you just havent seen it yet. No one is turning PFA into a stormfront as that board has been dead for a long time, as far as I know.However, anyone here viewing your "black fatigue" posts (and other shared tweets about black people) are going to come away with the belief that you're trying to turn this site into Stormfront.
Nobody said you made up the "black fatigue" term.
But it's a very racist-sounding term and makes this forum look awful. It doesn't help that the memes and tweets you post about the matter are from blatantly racist X accounts.
I keep trying to tell you that it's this sort of thing which makes me look bad to others in poker. Nobody in poker gives a shit if sonatine trolls people on my forum. I've never had one complaint at the WSOP of, "You know what, your forum members are too mean, can you please stop them from being so negative?"
I have had lots of complaints about racism, homophobia, etc. I have responded with "I'm just allowing free speech, I'm not making these sorts of posts myself", but that doesn't convince anyone. They still say it's my forum and I shouldn't allow it, and it's hard to keep arguing back, so I just kinda end the conversation there, knowing the person thinks I'm an asshole and will probably tell their friends I run a bigoted site.
Not only that, people don't even seem to want to see these posts here, so why are you bothering?
OH NO
btw desertretard Black Fatigue was a term created by a black woman to describe the effects of racism on black peoples' health. it was co-opted by racists that a bunch of Neo Nazi cocksuckers that are really just using ragebait videos and titles to drive their racist agenda without actually saying that they are just racist.
In the post above, you called it "my term", its not my term, I never said it was, its a national term.
Again, they are not racist accounts on X, or they would be deleted per their policy. Only you have labeled them "racist accounts", but they arent, they are just members posting national news stories.But it's a very racist-sounding term and makes this forum look awful. It doesn't help that the memes and tweets you post about the matter are from blatantly racist X accounts.
Do a search here of the N-word and it comes up hundreds of times by numerous users- THAT is the main root of the complaints you got in real life. If you search box "desertrunner n-word", only one thread comes up and I never used that word. When someone approached you in real life about PFA at the WSPO, it was about the N word and nothing to do with me. I am being made out to be the bad guy here out of convenience and it makes the liberals happy here when you unfairly publicly shame me.I keep trying to tell you that it's this sort of thing which makes me look bad to others in poker. Nobody in poker gives a shit if sonatine trolls people on my forum. I've never had one complaint at the WSOP of, "You know what, your forum members are too mean, can you please stop them from being so negative?"
The complaints you get are from the liberals here. All of the non-libs have already left the website, I have explained this several times here. And then you quickly add that some of the complainers are not liberals, but they really are. Every reason gets twisted some to where I am always in the wrong. Thats what The Boz was trying to show you, but you just couldnt get what he was telling you, the rest of us saw it.I have had lots of complaints about racism, homophobia, etc. I have responded with "I'm just allowing free speech, I'm not making these sorts of posts myself", but that doesn't convince anyone. They still say it's my forum and I shouldn't allow it, and it's hard to keep arguing back, so I just kinda end the conversation there, knowing the person thinks I'm an asshole and will probably tell their friends I run a bigoted site.
Sontaine has posted way worst items than I have like naked black men and naked blqack women. Its not always me. Everything I post is well within the posted rules and decent taste, just strong political the libs dont like.Not only that, people don't even seem to want to see these posts here, so why are you bothering?
False. I saw that Google too, its to cover up the other national term.
oh yeah not racist at all
Its not racist, its a national term commonly used-
Sure seems like Big Cuck is getting Autistic Retard Muslim Fatigue..
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Lets very much clear this up- one person is acting like a pedo and he is getting called out on it, straight up. I have asked Druff to stop it and he wont, so then the pattern has to be addressed.Originally Posted by Dan Druff V
1) Stop calling people here pedos. We had one actual pedo on the forum (unbeknownst to us, until he vanished), and that was 4Dragons. Nobody else on this forum has shown any pedo tendencies, so that insult is stupid and should be retired. If it were aimed at one person and at least for some actual reason, it would be different, but desertrunner uses this against several people on PFA, just because he doesn't like them.
Okay, I just merged two complain-about-desertrunner threads into one, and I'm going to address this matter for the 1,483,328th time since 2021.
I am tired of the same shit over and over and I'm going to make it stop if it doesn't stop on its own.
After careful consideration, here are my determinations (some of which you've heard before):
1) desertrunner is making zero attempt to fit in here, and it's annoying a lot of people. He also seems to have a general disdain for the veteran posters and for the majority of the forum's opinion of the way they'd like to see this place operate. That is also frustrating people, and understandably so.
2) desertrunner does not seem to be willing to stop behavior which I repeatedly say is either ruining the forum or making me look bad in the community. I don't care if desertrunner feels that his "black fatigue" posts aren't racist. They are, and anyone with a half-functioning brain can see that they're racist. Same with his reposts of racist tweets, with the excuse that they couldn't be racist or they'd be banned from X. That's nonsense, as X is notoriously inconsistent with their rule enforcement, and that has been true there since the beginning (under both regimes). I don't want gratuitous racism posted here, and he needs to respect that. He also needs to respect what MY definition of gratuitous racism is, even if he disagrees.
3) desertrunner keeps calling people "pedos" for no reason other than disliking them. This is despite the fact that there is no one on this forum anywhere close to being underage, and the fact that nobody here is saying anything which would justify calling them a pedo. For example, Tellafriend constantly trolling desertrunner isn't "pedo behavior", because these are two guys over 50, so by definition this behavior is not "pedo". Calling Tellafriend a "pedo" for trolling another adult is as dumb as when a middle-aged straight white guy on Facebook accused me of "mansplaining" to him.
4) desertrunner makes statements about "liberals" running amok here, and that they attack him because he's the only non-liberal left here. You know... since snowtracks left the forum. I'm also purple, apparently. Anyway, there are tons of allegations of "liberal" this and "liberal" that, even when the discussion has nothing to do with politics or social issues.
5) In general, desertrunner doesn't seem to care what I do and don't want to see on this forum, and just tells me why I'm wrong. Amazingly, he even seems to believe he knows what people say to me at WSOP, even though he's never been present for it. This is why many here have the perception that desertrunner can do what he wants on this forum with no consequence.
6) People are intentionally trolling/ruining good threads started by desertrunner, simply because he's the one starting them. This makes the situation worse, and ensures that the entire forum becomes the desertrunner show.
7) People are intentionally trolling/antagonizing desertrunner's replies in existing threads, even if the replies themselves are okay. This also makes the situation worse.
8) The over-thread-bumping, over-thread-creating, and over-posting issues have been addressed via software changes. I feel that those changes are working, and have fixed the posting quantity issues. However, desertrunner's general attitude and presence is bringing on trolling, and at the same time he is refusing to change anything.
So those are my conclusions. In the next message, I will post what I'm going to do about these conclusions going forward.
Here's what will happen going forward, and hopefully this place will return to normalcy.
1) No more pedo allegations. I am sick of it. This includes allegations to and from desertrunner. I will delete all threads and rep I see with "pedo" aimed at other users here, and will ban people from threads if necessary.
2) I don't want to see any more complaints about "liberals" from desertrunner, with the exception of when politics are being discussed. I don't want any more nonsense about "liberal logic", "liberals are ruining the forum", "Druff is siding with the liberals", etc. Enough. It's stupid and it's making this forum look stupid. I will delete all messages from desertrunner like this, and ban him from threads if necessary.
3) I don't want to see any more complaints about "censorship" from desertrunner. This is one of the least censored forums you'll find. However, I might choose at any time to delete threads, messages, rep, or change thread titles as I see fit. I do this to reduce clutter and to prevent this forum to turning into more of a shithole than it already is. desertrunner, if you find that objectionable, go start your own forum where you can set the desired level of "censorship", and see how it works out. Otherwise, respect the way I have chosen to run this place if you want to be here. Note that, aside from a few exceptions, everyone else tends to stay quiet and accept it when I delete a post, merge threads, or change a title.
4) No more gratuitous racism. I don't want to read about "black fatigue", the "black problem", or see tweets from white supremacist X accounts (unless it's to specifically comment on them). I don't care if YOU don't believe it's racist. I'm the one who has to face people in live cardrooms, almost all of whom DO think it's racist, so your interpretation of it doesn't matter. desertrunner, if it makes you feel better, know that these complaints date way back to before you were ever involved here, so it's not just you. But you've been the main perpetrator recently. It needs to stop. I will instantly delete all threads and posts like this, and I will remove your posting ability if this continues.
5) I don't want "master threads" for random topics here. We have a few master topic threads for topics which are likely to be actively ongoing, such as MLB, NFL, NBA, Trump, bitcoin, stocks, etc. I don't want or need master threads about Toyota cars, In-n-out burger, etc. If you have something interesting to post about a topic, just state it in the topic.
6) Don't noose / troll / bash / red rep desertrunner just because he's the one posting. If he starts a decent thread, let it play out normally. Don't ruin every thread he starts just because you don't like him. I'm going to be removing kneejerk troll posts against him like this, and I'll ban people from threads if they keep doing it.
The above can only work if desertrunner is willing to modify his behavior to respect what's being asked of him above, and if the haters of desertrunner can really dial down the trolling when he creates decent topics here (or responds reasonably to an existing topic).
What I can assure you is that I'm going to clean up the forum of the constant desertrunner-related arguing, and that I'm also not going to ask nicely anymore for desertrunner to respect what I'm asking of him here.
So let it be written, so let it be done.
Looking forward to reading DesertRunner’s post about why Druff is wrong.
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