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    Ohtani still has the flu tonight.

    Flu might have damaged Ohtani permanently

    Angels fans were booing Ohtani too. Druff is upset and confused

    I need two more runs. Gonna have to lean on Angels for that

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    A Hawaii real estate investor and broker are suing Shohei Ohtani, claiming the Los Angeles Dodgers star and his agent got them fired from a $240 million luxury housing development on the Big Island’s coveted Hapuna Coast that they brought him in to endorse.

    According to the lawsuit filed in Hawaii Circuit Court on Friday, Ohtani’s agent, Nez Balelo, increasingly demanded concessions from developer Kevin J. Hayes Sr. and real estate broker Tomoko Matsumoto before demanding that their business partner, Kingsbarn Realty Capital, drop them from the deal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by simpdog View Post
    A Hawaii real estate investor and broker are suing Shohei Ohtani, claiming the Los Angeles Dodgers star and his agent got them fired from a $240 million luxury housing development on the Big Island’s coveted Hapuna Coast that they brought him in to endorse.

    According to the lawsuit filed in Hawaii Circuit Court on Friday, Ohtani’s agent, Nez Balelo, increasingly demanded concessions from developer Kevin J. Hayes Sr. and real estate broker Tomoko Matsumoto before demanding that their business partner, Kingsbarn Realty Capital, drop them from the deal.
    If we learned one thing from the gambling scandal, it's that Ohtani entrusts his business to shady "professionals" who then sometime proceed to act in unethical ways.

    I doubt Ohtani had any knowledge of this. His agent was probably far too aggressive with the negotiations to have Ohtani endorse it, and then when he didn't get them, he probably called their business partner to bitch about those two guys, stating that Ohtani would refuse to endorse it unless they were fired.

    Totally believable that this would happen.

    Of course, these two guys also could have just been assholes, and perhaps Ohtani's agent exposed it to the business partners. There has to be more to this.

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    You can't blame Ohtani for not being himself when he's back in Anaheim.

    He probably still has nightmares from his time there. Here he was putting up huge numbers, and sometimes was getting support from an on-and-off healthy Mike Trout.

    In six years, he didn't get to play a single postseason game. There are only two teams in MLB who haven't seen the postseason since 2018, and that's the Pirates (2015) and the Angels (2014).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    You can't blame Ohtani for not being himself when he's back in Anaheim.

    He probably still has nightmares from his time there. Here he was putting up huge numbers, and sometimes was getting support from an on-and-off healthy Mike Trout.

    In six years, he didn't get to play a single postseason game. There are only two teams in MLB who haven't seen the postseason since 2018, and that's the Pirates (2015) and the Angels (2014).
    Ohtani deliberately chose to hide in Anaheim. If The Angels were a dynasty it would not have suited him. Lack of competition from other team mates meant he had tremendous opportunity to pitch while being a position player. He would be given a long leash

    As well, Angels executive Billy Eppler courted Ohtani since he was in high school. There was trust. It is fascinating to me thet Eppler is with Milwaukee now.

    The Angels playoff ignominy was a feature not a defect to Ohtani. You know this to be true.

    Curiously, Ohtani apparently has the same trust in Fraudman he felt with Eppler. Ohtani has an exit clause in his Dodgers contract should Fraudman leave the organization. Crazy. We see by the latest news story Ohtani doesn’t always have a good radar regarding non athletes

    We have yet to see how Ohtani’s career will unfold after his mind boggling performance in Anaheim. Home runs are nice but that isn’t what captured the world’s attention previously. It’s trending positively. Pray for him.

    Ohtani has traded one fail team for another, of course. The Dodgers legacy of playoff failure may present the opportunity for Ohtani to carry them on his back to playoff victory and cement his GOAT status. It’ll be a monumental challenge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sanlmar View Post
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    You can't blame Ohtani for not being himself when he's back in Anaheim.

    He probably still has nightmares from his time there. Here he was putting up huge numbers, and sometimes was getting support from an on-and-off healthy Mike Trout.

    In six years, he didn't get to play a single postseason game. There are only two teams in MLB who haven't seen the postseason since 2018, and that's the Pirates (2015) and the Angels (2014).
    Ohtani deliberately chose to hide in Anaheim. If The Angels were a dynasty it would not have suited him. Lack of competition from other team mates meant he had tremendous opportunity to pitch while being a position player. He would be given a long leash

    As well, Angels executive Billy Eppler courted Ohtani since he was in high school. There was trust. It is fascinating to me thet Eppler is with Milwaukee now.

    The Angels playoff ignominy was a feature not a defect to Ohtani. You know this to be true.

    Curiously, Ohtani apparently has the same trust in Fraudman he felt with Eppler. Ohtani has an exit clause in his Dodgers contract should Fraudman leave the organization. Crazy. We see by the latest news story Ohtani doesn’t always have a good radar regarding non athletes

    We have yet to see how Ohtani’s career will unfold after his mind boggling performance in Anaheim. Home runs are nice but that isn’t what captured the world’s attention previously. It’s trending positively. Pray for him.

    Ohtani has traded one fail team for another, of course. The Dodgers legacy of playoff failure may present the opportunity for Ohtani to carry them on his back to playoff victory and cement his GOAT status. It’ll be a monumental challenge.
    Regardless of how he felt in his early MLB career about keeping out of the spotlight while playing for a failteam, he clearly wanted to win once he became a free agent.

    The trust in Friedman is based upon the (misguided) belief that Friedman is the only one in the Dodgers organization who can be counted on to build a champion.

    I will say that the Dodgers are thus far 1-for-1 in World Series titles since Ohtani joined the squad, so that probably solidifies the Friedman myth even more in his head. He also got to witness one of the best Friedman moves in a long time, which was acquiring Edman and Kopech in exchange for a pile of trash. Both players made a big postseason impact, especially Edman.

    The 2025 moves will yield no such miracles.

    Ohtani is still OPSing over 1.000, which puts him only behind Judge. He's still going to win the MVP again.

    He does have a 27% strikeout rate, so that's something to watch. But strikeouts have always been a hidden problem for Ohtani, as he's whiffed over 1000 times since 2018.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Sanlmar View Post

    Ohtani deliberately chose to hide in Anaheim. If The Angels were a dynasty it would not have suited him. Lack of competition from other team mates meant he had tremendous opportunity to pitch while being a position player. He would be given a long leash

    As well, Angels executive Billy Eppler courted Ohtani since he was in high school. There was trust. It is fascinating to me thet Eppler is with Milwaukee now.

    The Angels playoff ignominy was a feature not a defect to Ohtani. You know this to be true.

    Curiously, Ohtani apparently has the same trust in Fraudman he felt with Eppler. Ohtani has an exit clause in his Dodgers contract should Fraudman leave the organization. Crazy. We see by the latest news story Ohtani doesn’t always have a good radar regarding non athletes

    We have yet to see how Ohtani’s career will unfold after his mind boggling performance in Anaheim. Home runs are nice but that isn’t what captured the world’s attention previously. It’s trending positively. Pray for him.

    Ohtani has traded one fail team for another, of course. The Dodgers legacy of playoff failure may present the opportunity for Ohtani to carry them on his back to playoff victory and cement his GOAT status. It’ll be a monumental challenge.
    Regardless of how he felt in his early MLB career about keeping out of the spotlight while playing for a failteam, he clearly wanted to win once he became a free agent.

    The trust in Friedman is based upon the (misguided) belief that Friedman is the only one in the Dodgers organization who can be counted on to build a champion.

    I will say that the Dodgers are thus far 1-for-1 in World Series titles since Ohtani joined the squad, so that probably solidifies the Friedman myth even more in his head. He also got to witness one of the best Friedman moves in a long time, which was acquiring Edman and Kopech in exchange for a pile of trash. Both players made a big postseason impact, especially Edman.

    The 2025 moves will yield no such miracles.

    Ohtani is still OPSing over 1.000, which puts him only behind Judge. He's still going to win the MVP again.

    He does have a 27% strikeout rate, so that's something to watch. But strikeouts have always been a hidden problem for Ohtani, as he's whiffed over 1000 times since 2018.
    Having been allowed to develop his game in Anaheim Ohtani was ready for the next step. You are correct.

    Dodgers winning last year with 2½ pitchers was a modern miracle. Similarly, this years troubled staff presents a blank canvass.

    The only asterisk is that Ohtani is not playing a position as he did in Anaheim. The outfield, much like the entire Dodgers defense, is a shifting and mediocre landscape. If Shohei is inclined he will advise Fraudman of his intention to play right field.

    I was looking at Spencer Strider tonight and his internal brace. Not pretty. He’s still learning to pitch with it. Ohtani is not human.

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    If 3rd base coach Dino Ebel was formally introduced to the current roster perhaps they would use him and there would be fewer base running blunders.

    Any other level or any other team would bench the player who ran the way the Dodger do. Even Ohtani the other day. Senseless. There was no way Ebel gave him the sign to steal 3rd with Freeman at the plate.

    There is no coaching happening lately. Players are tuning them out

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    LOL Druff, granted all you gave up was Outman to re-acquire him, but Brock Stewart back on his proper IL roster.

    Him traded back to Prior just made me giggle. Seems like he got hurt literally walking into the clubhouse.

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    Tied for first now with Padres.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sanlmar View Post
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    Sawks like the Brewers are a new age Cutter team. 4S is old school. If Sawks can deprogram the Dodgers 4 seam out and improve his cutter (too much arms side according to baseball savant) and increase its usage they might be able to salvage something out of May.

    Meantime tomorrow’s game is gonna be a pitching shitshow on both sides.
    I posted this in the early morning hours yesterday prior to May the mound for the Sawks.

    lol, the Sawks wasted no time deprogrammimg Dodgers Mark Prior fail out of Gingergaard. I know I would.



    Brewers Sawks and Cleveland. New school pitching. Deempahsizing 4 Seam and weighted balls and leaning into the cutter. It’s working
    Dustin May pitched 6 scoreless and struck out 8 with a tight 2-0 lead vs the same team that knocked around one of the 5 best pitchers in MLB, Crochet, the previous night

    May acted the stopper ending a 4 game Red Sox skid.

    Just took some decent pitching coaching for a change.

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    Quote Originally Posted by simpdog View Post
    Tied for first now with Padres.
    I have a ticket purchased a mere 12 days ago for Padres NL West winner +750. +175 now

    Obv gonna take some profit here

    Perhaps I shoulda said something. lol

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    Brewers. You’ll hear about the 12 straight. They’ll miss the more important 10-2 run line record. They aren’t squeaking these out. They are just a RISP machine right now.

    Tribe is a Druff special Marlins play tonight. I will stay away, Williams has been very good, but he threw 124 pitches chasing no hitter last game. We will see if it matters tonight

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    Quote Originally Posted by BCR View Post
    Brewers. You’ll hear about the 12 straight. They’ll miss the more important 10-2 run line record. They aren’t squeaking these out. They are just a RISP machine right now.
    That is an important observation. They know how to advance a runner. I thought the bunt was illegal cause I watch so much Dodgers. Turns out it’s not.

    Brewers are what is good about baseball in 2025 too.

    Dodgers are on a 0-7 run with bases loaded. Very impressive. Quite inept. They are the mirror image of Brewers. Swing from their heels and hope.

    Both teams are hella entertaining in their own way.

    May not win but it’s +EV
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    That is a good bet. They're playing the best of any second half NL team right now, so +650 is a good line.

    It will help if Misiorowski is healthy and emotionally ready for the postseason.

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    Brew Crew best record too

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    You know Padres and Dodgers batters are gonna get drilled in the upcoming series. I can see hitting hot head Pages, for instance. He tilts easy and would be even more prone to mistakes. I just don’t think you want to give Roberts the opportunity to re-light the Dodger emotional fuse.

    I’m Red Sox, Yankees, Pedro and old school so HBP is part of my DNA but I hope Machado and company just keep on autopilot and continue the run. No shenanigans. If Dodgers want to start up in the second inning don’t take the bait.

    The Fraudman comments today regarding the trade deadline. Absolutely classic. Save the prospects like you are clipping coupons for Bed Bath and Beyond. He thinks he can squeeze one more year out of this crew. He will upgrade over the winter and just run out the cards for this year

    Fraudman’s stated thought process is that trading prospects at the deadline yields less value than doing same in the winter. So he’ll pass the opportunity to fix holes now. He will wait till winter meetings. See what a brilliant strategist he is?

    He’s not in Tampa. He’s in the triple penalty phase with payroll and he’s looking to buy dented cans at the food pantry.

    I’ll show you my Ohtani player prop fades and Angels tickets if you want but what’s the point?

     
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    Expensive game tonight in LA. Like playoff expensive.

    See, San, the fans do care.

    Remember how bad the Padres were for awhile after their hot start? Seems like ancient history.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Expensive game tonight in LA. Like playoff expensive.

    See, San, the fans do care.

    Remember how bad the Padres were for awhile after their hot start? Seems like ancient history.
    Guilty of being unsophisticated not apathetic.

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    Padres doing what they do best -- choking when it comes to the Dodgers.

    LA back in first.

    In the meantime, Brewers have won 14 straight and sit 8.5 ahead of the Dodgers & Phillies for best NL record.

    Anyone notice how the Mets have been scuffling lately? Bad last month for baseball in New York. Mets are only 1.5 ahead of Reds for final WC spot.


    I forgot to bet against Nick Martinez on his last start. He's been consistently inconsistent, in that he pitches poorly after going 7+ innings in any start. Indeed, he got bombed yesterday. Get ready to fade him if he goes long again.

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    At one point the Dodgers had 5 runs on 1 hit.

    Padres tested Dodgers catcher Will Smith’s arm three consecutive times and got thrown out every time.

    Dropped ball on warning track by America’s sweetheart Jackson Merrill in a miscommunication with Tatis yielded two unearned runs. Again, Padres had 5 hits and no runs to Dodgers 1 hit and 5 runs.

    Youth baseball. Battle of losers. I was offended as a baseball fan

    Neither is playing even remotely close to Brewers baseball.

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