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    No big deal but theres a biblical flood in Texas thats swept away like 40 children at a Christian camp and the count is getting higher

    its actually quite bad folks.

     
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    "Birds born in a cage think flying is an illness." - Alejandro Jodorowsky

    "America is not so much a nightmare as a non-dream. The American non-dream is precisely a move to wipe the dream out of existence. The dream is a spontaneous happening and therefore dangerous to a control system set up by the non-dreamers." -- William S. Burroughs

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    tine literally getting on a delta flight to offer his services as a giant life raft because he cares and he carries a wide berth thats the kind of hero he is yall

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    literally so wide and buoyant he can rescue 30 to 40 orphan children

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    I've seen some of the pictures of the little girls that died... ones who were like 8 years old.

    Incredibly depressing. Had to click off of it.

    This shit shouldn't happen in 2025. There should be some sort of warning system and procedure in place, in areas prone to it.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    I've seen some of the pictures of the little girls that died... ones who were like 8 years old.

    Incredibly depressing. Had to click off of it.

    This shit shouldn't happen in 2025. There should be some sort of warning system and procedure in place, in areas prone to it.

    The Trump administration's plan to dismantle the nation's atmospheric research programs could set U.S. forecasting back a generation or more, a cadre of retired federal hurricane, weather and ocean scientists warns.

    The budget proposed by the White House for the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration is almost half what it was a year ago, and eliminates all funding for the agency's Office of Oceanic and Atmospheric Research, the division that coordinates and conducts weather and climate research across the nation.

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    It's tough to take a natural disaster seriously when cars are just casually driving across the bridge on a river that is drowning people. The people in the cars are like yeah this isn't so bad.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pablo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    I've seen some of the pictures of the little girls that died... ones who were like 8 years old.

    Incredibly depressing. Had to click off of it.

    This shit shouldn't happen in 2025. There should be some sort of warning system and procedure in place, in areas prone to it.

    The Trump administration's plan to dismantle the nation's atmospheric research programs could set U.S. forecasting back a generation or more, a cadre of retired federal hurricane, weather and ocean scientists warns.

    The budget proposed by the White House for the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration is almost half what it was a year ago, and eliminates all funding for the agency's Office of Oceanic and Atmospheric Research, the division that coordinates and conducts weather and climate research across the nation.

    Here we go.

    Nothing you crazy liberals won’t do to blame Trump for anything.

    I get you are angry that he is making you peopleleave the country but the constant crying like a bitch is old.

    This situation is so sad and tragic, even Sonatine put the politics aside.

    But the beaner, nah.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pablo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    I've seen some of the pictures of the little girls that died... ones who were like 8 years old.

    Incredibly depressing. Had to click off of it.

    This shit shouldn't happen in 2025. There should be some sort of warning system and procedure in place, in areas prone to it.

    The Trump administration's plan to dismantle the nation's atmospheric research programs could set U.S. forecasting back a generation or more, a cadre of retired federal hurricane, weather and ocean scientists warns.

    The budget proposed by the White House for the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration is almost half what it was a year ago, and eliminates all funding for the agency's Office of Oceanic and Atmospheric Research, the division that coordinates and conducts weather and climate research across the nation.
    I don't necessarily agree regarding the funding cut (I'd have to see the details to have an opinion either way), but this isn't really about climate research.

    It's about having a flood warning system in place when flood danger is determined to exist, or when flood waters are detected.

    In 1928, when the St. Francis dam broke in southern California, even then they were able to quickly get together a crude warning system in some cities to get people out of harm's way. 431 people still died, but it could have been much worse. Almost 100 years later, we should be able to sufficiently warn people that a flood is coming.

    (On a side note, the St. Francis dam disaster is not only barely talked about, but it had a tremendous influence upon future dam construction, including Hoover. In addition, the reason there's no significant towns south of Hoover Dam for many miles is a result of the St. Francis dam situation, as they didn't want a repeat if that one failed.)

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    No big deal but theres a biblical flood in Texas thats swept away like 40 children at a Christian camp and the count is getting higher

    Pure question only- Trump is pulling the Feds out of the mix and letting the states have local control. What about the states running the warning system and applying for federal grants?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pablo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    I've seen some of the pictures of the little girls that died... ones who were like 8 years old.

    Incredibly depressing. Had to click off of it.

    This shit shouldn't happen in 2025. There should be some sort of warning system and procedure in place, in areas prone to it.

    The Trump administration's plan to dismantle the nation's atmospheric research programs could set U.S. forecasting back a generation or more, a cadre of retired federal hurricane, weather and ocean scientists warns.

    The budget proposed by the White House for the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration is almost half what it was a year ago, and eliminates all funding for the agency's Office of Oceanic and Atmospheric Research, the division that coordinates and conducts weather and climate research across the nation.

    this was my first thought as well.

    apparently there were flood alerts tho, one of which was like 12 hours before this happened. but i guess texas was just too distracted by the horrors of the NYC mayoral race to save a couple of dozen children. which really makes this NYCs fault when you crunch the numbers.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
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    The Trump administration's plan to dismantle the nation's atmospheric research programs could set U.S. forecasting back a generation or more, a cadre of retired federal hurricane, weather and ocean scientists warns.

    The budget proposed by the White House for the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration is almost half what it was a year ago, and eliminates all funding for the agency's Office of Oceanic and Atmospheric Research, the division that coordinates and conducts weather and climate research across the nation.

    this was my first thought as well.

    apparently there were flood alerts tho, one of which was like 12 hours before this happened. but i guess texas was just too distracted by the horrors of the NYC mayoral race to save a couple of dozen children. which really makes this NYCs fault when you crunch the numbers.

    Non trolling point.

    Interview on the Weather Channel this morning of a local girl. Stated the alerts went off for Flash Flooding but they also do every time it rains hard. And no one really thinks much of it.

    Is it possible we get too many warnings and it becomes a “Boy who cried Wolf” situation? Damned if you do and damned if you don’t.

     
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    The Guadalupe is famous in Texas as a shallow, lazy river - floating it on an inner tube in the New Braunfels area is sort of a right of passage thing here, and the entire stretch across Texas hill country is basically the same.

    This happened outside of Hunt, Texas which is part of the Kerrville area. I have relatives that live just a few miles away from where this happened. Camp Mystic has been there for a hundred years. The river rising like this is just inconceivable from personal experience. It going too dry to float or kayak is the typical issue in the summer.

    Apparently there was a flash flood warning issued hours in advance, but no one took it seriously. That's reminiscent of the Joplin tornado where cars can be seen still in line at places like a KFC drive thru as an EF5 tornado approaches on the horizon, rain wrapped but clearly there by the countless power flashes. They never built one back.

    The river reaching a flood stage around Kerrville is rare, last summer was the first time it happened in six years. This was the highest the river has ever gotten, and it rose 26 feet in just 45 minutes, nearly 13 feet of that in 15 minutes. The only comparable crest happened much more gradually in 1987 - this lead to a similar tragedy. Ten kids on a bus in a church group were swept away.

    Here's a map of the camp:

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    bro dont give us gay geography lectures you absolute nerd

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Boz View Post
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    The Trump administration's plan to dismantle the nation's atmospheric research programs could set U.S. forecasting back a generation or more, a cadre of retired federal hurricane, weather and ocean scientists warns.

    The budget proposed by the White House for the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration is almost half what it was a year ago, and eliminates all funding for the agency's Office of Oceanic and Atmospheric Research, the division that coordinates and conducts weather and climate research across the nation.

    Here we go.

    Nothing you crazy liberals won’t do to blame Trump for anything.

    I get you are angry that he is making you peopleleave the country but the constant crying like a bitch is old.

    This situation is so sad and tragic, even Sonatine put the politics aside.

    But the beaner, nah.
    No we're not putting politics aside.
    Privatized weather forecasts are just as shitty as all the other privatized crap, What we have here is the corrupt leading the blind.
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    Let the GOP corruption and incompetence bodycount begin.

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    Anytime I hear "Kerrville, Texas" I think of Ray Wylie Hubbard, this clip, and the first song he sings in it. Something to distract from the tragedy. It's looking like there may be more people missing than originally thought from surrounding camp grounds.

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    hey great news the 'they kidnapped those girls didnt they' posters have woken up and logged on.
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