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    Diddy Pardon: Donald Trump “Certainly” Would Consider Clemency For Sean Combs As Old Pal Faces Sex-Trafficking Trial & Life Behind Bars
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    honestly i have no idea how we got to this point; diddy is claiming diminished mental capacity, specifically that he was too drunk/high to know what he was doing was illegal.


    which apparently is a disaster trainwreck of a defense because he had a limited period of time to alert the prosecution that this was going to be his defense and none of his team did so, plus its supposed to be accompanied by a doctors opinion backing up the claim and literally zero doctors have examined him.
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    the general consensus right now;

    he did a couple of assault and batteries against women

    he blew up kid cudi's car


    beyond those specific charges, nothing really met the bar for a guilty verdict.


    hes probably looking at 2 years for the car and 4 year for the assaults on the low end. so maybe 12 years total on the extreme high end of the spectrum. probably more like out in 6.
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    diddys attorney asked for a mistrial today, no word beyond that.
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    • Count 1 (RICO): Still undecided
    • Count 2 (Sex Trafficking of Cassie): Verdict reached
    • Count 3 (Mann Act – Cassie): Verdict reached
    • Count 4 (Sex Trafficking of Jane Doe): Verdict reached
    • Count 5 (Mann Act – Jane Doe): Verdict reached
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    aaaand he walks.

    not guilty on everything but a prostitution pinch basically.

    morally he deserves something pretty extreme but he also paid many, many millions in lawsuits over his behavior so theres that to consider.

    i stand by my original thesis that this was always about shaking the tree to try to get him pinched for being a drug kingpin and it just didnt work out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by desertrunner View Post
    This is a win for Diddy. He avoided the RICO conviction, which is difficult to prove, but prosecutors charge it because it allows them to get evidence in that would otherwise be excluded. He’s basically been exposed as a black Matt Gaetz. I don’t know anything about Hip Hop culture, but I’m thinking it won’t hurt his reputation in that community.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jayjami View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by desertrunner View Post
    This is a win for Diddy. He avoided the RICO conviction, which is difficult to prove, but prosecutors charge it because it allows them to get evidence in that would otherwise be excluded. He’s basically been exposed as a black Matt Gaetz. I don’t know anything about Hip Hop culture, but I’m thinking it won’t hurt his reputation in that community.

    he hasnt been a presence in the hiphop scene in a long time. anything beyond time served would be quite remarkable here, considering how hard the SDNY faceplanted this.
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    So he just got convicted of moving prostitutes over state lines and the Judge won’t give him pre-sentencing bond for a million bucks? It seems like the Judge’s attitude changed over the lunch break because apparently he had an exchange with P Diddy regarding if he wanted to stay in the Brooklyn Detention Center and Diddy said something like “No Sir”.

    So it seemed like he tipped his hand initially he was going to set bond but then came up with the fact that their was “violence” after the intitial raid in order to refuse bail here. Look Diddy is a piece of shit but imo he should have been given bond here. The jury has spoken and didn’t convict on the trafficking or RICO.

    I just hate the range of punishments these Federal Judges have. Really up to 10 years X 2 for bringing prostitutes across state lines? Diddy is a scumbag but the Jury has spoken. He should have been given bond and then probably probation imho.

    To me it’s seems like the “Man Act” or whatever you want to call it has such harsh possible penalties it essentially allows the Government to punish someone even if they don’t get them on a real serious charge or the Jury doesn’t “deliver” the justice they thought was right For better or worse it shouldn’t be that way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
    1) the person he was having sex with is _younger_ than him, like clearly.


    2) its a dude.



    now based on this new info the most obvious guesses are justin bieber or usher.


    and since everyone cant shut up about how much more famous the a-lister is than diddy, i mean, that points at justin here.


    now theres 2 things to consider; if its bieber, that explains why no ones touching the tape because bieber was 15 when they were hanging out, so its literally child pornography. alternately, who the fuck tries to shop child pornography to media outlets??


    so either its not bieber or its bieber like 2 or 3 years after diddy and him were 'chilling'.


    anyway yeah we can scratch the original 3 guesses; kim k, jlo, will smith. will smith is too old and the others have the wrong plumbing.


    ive got the boards at bieber -450, usher +125.


    You nailed Covid, Charlie Sheen and Prince for that matter, but this was a big miss on your part. Ex girlfriend fucking male hookers is all we got here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tgull View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
    1) the person he was having sex with is _younger_ than him, like clearly.


    2) its a dude.



    now based on this new info the most obvious guesses are justin bieber or usher.


    and since everyone cant shut up about how much more famous the a-lister is than diddy, i mean, that points at justin here.


    now theres 2 things to consider; if its bieber, that explains why no ones touching the tape because bieber was 15 when they were hanging out, so its literally child pornography. alternately, who the fuck tries to shop child pornography to media outlets??


    so either its not bieber or its bieber like 2 or 3 years after diddy and him were 'chilling'.


    anyway yeah we can scratch the original 3 guesses; kim k, jlo, will smith. will smith is too old and the others have the wrong plumbing.


    ive got the boards at bieber -450, usher +125.


    You nailed Covid, Charlie Sheen and Prince for that matter, but this was a big miss on your part. Ex girlfriend fucking male hookers is all we got here.


    yeah and thats another thing about this case; the prosecutors spent like a year jawing about how they had billions of hours of videos of absolute scions of the music industry in compromised positions and all we got was the same video of diddy beating up cassie while they were both wasted on heroin that we saw years before his arrest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
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    You nailed Covid, Charlie Sheen and Prince for that matter, but this was a big miss on your part. Ex girlfriend fucking male hookers is all we got here.


    yeah and thats another thing about this case; the prosecutors spent like a year jawing about how they had billions of hours of videos of absolute scions of the music industry in compromised positions and all we got was the same video of diddy beating up cassie while they were both wasted on heroin that we saw years before his arrest.
    Crazy thing is nobody else on the planet would be prosecuted for watching his girlfriend getting willfully banged by male hookers, this case was manufactured. I expect a Trump pardon, and even the most liberal democrat would agree. Yeah he is a bad dude, get all that, but being a bad dude should not get you through all this. It's like Trump getting put though a ringer for giving $100K of his own money to pay off some skank porn star. The whole legal system is corrupted by the ambition of lawyers just trying to get ahead. It was very great when the Stormy Daniels lawyer got put away for 10 years or so.

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    So exactly how did Diddy get off?



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    the judge refusing to let him out on bail is certainly interesting.

    i believe hes potentially on the hook for 15 years in the absolute worst case but for a guy with literally zero convictions going into this trial, they seem particularly interested in making an example of him.

    also his lawyer is the same guy who got yung thug off his rico. there are very few people as good at their job in the history of our species as him.
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    My understanding is that this “Man Act” was really to prosecute pimps. Guys who owned massage parlors/brothels where it was clear they were taking a percentage of the prostitution coin. This way they could get these guys even if they came up short on whether the girls were necessarily “trafficked” in the legal sense. But technically if you have a prostitute cross state lines, like Elliot Spitzer (who wasn’t prosecuted under this act, you are violating the law. In this case the “Man Act” was essentially a slam dunk guilty verdict Now the a judge has a shit ton of power

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    So yea, Cassie is a piss guzzling gangbang slut huh.
    That's pretty crazy.

    You have to wonder about Jalo, she's probably to big of a star for Diddy to to try thatt on her but then again you never know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orko View Post
    So yea, Cassie is a piss guzzling gangbang slut huh.
    That's pretty crazy.

    You have to wonder about Jalo, she's probably to big of a star for Diddy to to try thatt on her but then again you never know.
    My guess is J Lo was just willfully blind to whatever he did when she wasn’t around. They dated when she was a huge star and my thought is they spent a lot of time apart. Im speculating but I think Diddy probably separated his life with her and his other shit pretty well. Not giving her a pass. I’m sure it was more of a status relationship than a real one.

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