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Thread: *UNITED STATES RATINGS CUT TO Aa1 FROM Aaa BY MOODY'S "We do not believe that material multi-year reductions in mandatory spending and deficits will result from current fiscal proposals under consideration." I fuckin warned you guys.

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    i remember my dad coming home with barrons and the ft the 90s were such a decade like briefcases were still a thing

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    Feel like Druff had a briefcase in high school.

    Are we sitting shiva for the site now cause I’m gonna need to order food.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
    Just a reminder that Fitch cut the USA Credit Rating in 2023 under Biden to AA+ status

    And S&P dropped the rating in 2011 while Fitch and Moodys both were stating they had a negative outlook on US Debt under Obama also in 2011. So this isnt something new Tine Its happened before with Obama and Biden both. But Im sure youll just ignore that fact as usual since the Dems can basically do no wrong in your eyes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Boz View Post
    And S&P Global cut the rating in 2011.

    Return since then?

    Average annual return of 12.2% on the 500.

    You get off this shit dreaming of the markets dropping and everyone having to sit around and eat chili to survive.

    Your hatred of success is very telling. It’s an old act.
    Hes still waving his fist at Bitcoin waiting for it to drop while it hits 105K

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    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
    we will know in the next 12 hours whether or not this guts us fast or slow.
    It didnt gut us when Cocoa Jesus was POTUS with S&P downgrade and warnings from the other 2. JFC Tine your fucking financial chicken little. Maybe go outside get some fresh air. Plan a salmon fishing trip for later this year or something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
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    It’s less a surprise this time. The rating is a confirmation of a national concern. Not a black swan. Not a big deal. Frankly I’d take the other side

    Country’s have been positioning and realigning for the past 15 years. It’s an ongoing process

    Inflationary deleveraging and QE coming. Assets prolly roll on until we run out of track. Don’t lock your knees

    I’ll tell you this - Lutnick made his roll facilitating bond trades and the vol this year has been epic. It would be good to be on Lutnick’s friends and family list (and he’s LEGENDARY for rewarding family)

    The enrichment is never really going to be fully comprehended in our lifetime. There is a reason Lutnick is always so upbeat and cheerful.
    futes are down 100 points since i made this post playboy
    Oh dear yes the futures markets who had a fit based on the tariffs announcement and then within a few weeks were above their previous highs. The only thing the futures markets do is forecast where they think the market will be in 1-3 months (current index contracts close roughly 3 1/2 weeks in June). Traders make money on futures going up or down. Mondays have tended to be volatile lately. More interested in where it goes before the holiday weekend close on Friday because all it did was chop in a narrow range the end of last week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
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    If you’re cashing - props. 100 points is noise in 2025
    tonights pull so far; Name:  
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    my very off the cuff target for tomorrow is NQ 21062 but a lot of that depends on what the market does overnight.

    a week ago id say yeah 100 points is a stiff breeze but the last 5 days were really really realllllly thin on travel and it really felt like a regime change.

    so yeah this moodys event is like, straight into my veins please sir.

    it should be a good day. possibly a record day for me. inshallah.
    I wouldnt take any guesses till the opening 15m range in the morning. Were down 305 on NQ/MNQ right now. Dow futures YM are down 370 which is curious because if it was true parallel movement Dow should be down twice that basically roughly.

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    ANOTHER gibberish $hit thread by Sonatine and his wack pack on PFA..

     
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    Hey playboy

    I’m a bond doomer from way back but the overnight was confounding to me. Not news. To anyone

    People got filthy rich when every business was shut down in America (pandemic). End of times will be filled with virgins and gold fixtures on the bidet. Then darkness

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sanlmar View Post
    Hey playboy

    I’m a bond doomer from way back but the overnight was confounding to me. Not news. To anyone

    People got filthy rich when every business was shut down in America (pandemic). End of times will be filled with virgins and gold fixtures on the bidet. Then darkness

    the crazy part to me is a lot of very clued in people predicted we would moon on open.

    the only way i can see it is a squeeze or plunge protection.

    the fact that this miracle moon happened like 15 minutes after the closed door meeting with bessent screams the latter.

    but i dont care much for conspiracy theories after the fact. simple truth is i could have read the tealeaves at 9:30am and made money instead of relying on the ones i read on friday at 4pm. thats on me playboy.

    "Birds born in a cage think flying is an illness." - Alejandro Jodorowsky

    "America is not so much a nightmare as a non-dream. The American non-dream is precisely a move to wipe the dream out of existence. The dream is a spontaneous happening and therefore dangerous to a control system set up by the non-dreamers." -- William S. Burroughs

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    Oh but I do. I will have to root around FRED for clues.

     
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    "Birds born in a cage think flying is an illness." - Alejandro Jodorowsky

    "America is not so much a nightmare as a non-dream. The American non-dream is precisely a move to wipe the dream out of existence. The dream is a spontaneous happening and therefore dangerous to a control system set up by the non-dreamers." -- William S. Burroughs

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    Another bad call by this ass clown.

    Hopefully has enough cash left to have friends over for CHILI.

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    bro is this guy acting like your chili game isnt incredible what is happening here

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    Quote Originally Posted by lol wow View Post
    bro is this guy acting like your chili game isnt incredible what is happening here

    a random i have on ignore has opinions you say? ok ill get right on that as soon as we get these logs analyzed.
    "Birds born in a cage think flying is an illness." - Alejandro Jodorowsky

    "America is not so much a nightmare as a non-dream. The American non-dream is precisely a move to wipe the dream out of existence. The dream is a spontaneous happening and therefore dangerous to a control system set up by the non-dreamers." -- William S. Burroughs

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sanlmar View Post
    Oh but I do. I will have to root around FRED for clues.
    if youre in the mood to get anxious and sick, check out treasuries acting like a fucking memestock this morning
    "Birds born in a cage think flying is an illness." - Alejandro Jodorowsky

    "America is not so much a nightmare as a non-dream. The American non-dream is precisely a move to wipe the dream out of existence. The dream is a spontaneous happening and therefore dangerous to a control system set up by the non-dreamers." -- William S. Burroughs

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    so heres may 2025 me and tine exclusively wearing polo association shirts with the oversized horse from ross this is gonna be lit maybe like neon orange jackets also

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    we slip in like one oversized v neck sweater for date nights or when we need to ask family members for money

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    HOW AM I SO GOOD AT POSTING ITS ACTUALLY INSANE I JUST HAVE GREAT LINES THAT MAKE MY DOGS SMILE THIS IS A STUPID 15 YEAR RUN IVE BEEN ON

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    like just the ross snack counter line marrone like maybe only sal and tine deserve things that good the observational humor next level, the giant fake polo shirt horses me and tine are gonna be wearing i dont really have much more to add

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