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    Quote Originally Posted by p00nz0rdpl0x View Post
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    perfect. pls keep us informed of his progress with raising funds ...

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    How is this guy not a regular poster by now?
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    Sounds like Druff's tough conversation really helped.
    PokerFraudAlert...will never censor your claims, even if they're against one of our sponsors. In addition to providing you an open forum report fraud within the poker community, we will also analyze your claims with a clear head an unbiased point of view. And, of course, the accused will always have the floor to defend themselves.-Dan Druff

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    Talking

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    Cool

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    I spoke to Niko on the phone tonight, at his request.

    It was the first time we have ever spoken directly, and we've never met in person.

    I heard him out, and I'll give him credit that he came off as a lot more sane than he did on the forum. The conversation was never heated, and he was respectful to me the whole way.

    He raised his points to me regarding the situation, and I let him know where I agreed and disagreed. I also gave him general advice as to what I felt he should do about everything, which I will repeat out here.

    Niko wanted to show me proof that Melissa had seen his Twitter DMs in December 2022, and hadn't just found that group of DMs in "the Other Messages folder" in March 2023, as it appears she was claiming. Indeed, Niko send me some fairly convincing proof that, yes, Melissa did see those messages at the time they were sent (December 2022), and didn't just find them in March 2023 as she was calling him out.

    However, I told Niko that this was a minor detail, and unimportant. Whether Melissa was accurate regarding when she found some particular messages is irrelevant. The bottom line is that:

    1) Niko sent Melissa unsolicited messages on two platforms (Twitter and Instagram) over a substantial period of time.

    2) Melissa never responded to him.

    3) Melissa blocked him on one of the platforms, and he kept messaging her on the other, despite it being clear from the block that she didn't want to hear from him.

    4) He made some gross sexual remarks in some of the messages, such as "I want to lick your butthole".

    5) He did identify himself as schizophrenic in one of the messages, and said he would "cancel everyone", which I could see being read as an implied threat.

    6) It is reasonable to assume that Melissa was scared/unnerved/worried about Niko's messages which didn't seem to be stopping.


    At the same time, I'll say this in his defense:

    1) He did not appear to have said anything directly threatening at any point.

    2) He did not appear to send any obscene pictures.

    3) He did not call her at any point.

    4) He did not appear to have stalked her in person at any point. She claims that he "sat at her table" one time at Wynn, but that's meaningless. Given that they are both poker pros, it's not unreasonable to believe he could appear in the same cash game at some point. It's also claimed that he stalked her at WSOP, but I have not seen convincing evidence that it was anything more than him just being present in the same hallway. Lots of people who dislike me are in the same hallway as me at WSOP, but I'm definitely not stalking them (nor are they stalking me!)



    Did Niko act inappropriately and creepy with those barrage of messages? Yes.

    Was Melissa reasonable to worry about the guy, and think he might be a threat? Again, yes.


    However, this has escalated far beyond where it needed to go.

    I have advised Niko to let this go, and to move on with his life. He seems to want to fully clear his name, win a civil suit against her, and achieve other remedies for himself. I told him that none of that is realistic.

    The bottom line is that he repeatedly messaged a woman, did not get a response, kept messaging over a period of months, occasionally wrote obscene things, and even kept messaging after he got blocked on one of his accounts. There is no way for him to win in the court of public opinion, given all of that.

    Niko's position is that he feels Melissa lied about him, both in her public statements and in court. Even if that's the case, the bottom line is that Melissa did not ask for any of this, and the situation occurring in the first place was his fault. I explained to him that, even if she embellished anything in court, it was likely due to fear of otherwise not getting the restraining order granted, which she felt she needed for her safety.

    I told him that the best thing he can do is move on from this, not let it eat him up inside, stop talking about it publicly, and make it clear to everyone that he's never making contact with her again, and forgetting she exists.



    I also told Niko that, while there's a zero point zero chance he will ever win a civil case against her, he does have a chance of overturning the restraining order. In my non-lawyerly opinion, this one could have gone either way, given that there were no threats, no visits, no phone calls, and it appears he was never explicitly told to stop messaging her, until the night she called him out. Additionally, there seems to be little evidence that his presence at the WSOP was anything more than him simply being there to play tournaments. I told him he could contact attorneys in Vegas to see if he has a viable path to overturning it.

    I stated that, if he does get it overturned, his next step should be going to the poker directors of the rooms where he's banned, explaining that he has no desire to do anything but keep his head down and play cards, and promise never to speak to her if they're in the room at the same time. Perhaps they will give him another chance.



    Bottom line is that Niko needs to get past this. He's made some mistakes, and what's done is done. He can let this destroy him inside, or he can take responsibility for his actions, seek to minimize the damage, and move forward. I hope he does the latter. I told him this on the phone multiple times.

    Finally, to the troll who has been hassling him, my suggestion is to drop it. You are just enflaming the situation and making it worse for everyone. I'm hoping you can just leave this alone, and hopefully Niko will decide on his own to take the correct actions going forward.

    I will say that in our long conversation, Niko never once expressed any desire to ever talk to or see Melissa ever again. I think if he simply lets it go (or alternately, uses the legal system to challenge the restraining order), he can heal much faster.

    Good luck.
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    and always remmember kids, yes i might be a "psychopath" "dark personality" LOL but niko will always be a below average 0 talent self loathing faggot forever victim who cant accept reality, anyways boys imma go sim race vs max verstappen have fun having ur daily laugh at this loser =]

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    I think this thread has hit a new low, which is saying a lot.

    I might have to lock it very shortly and be done with this topic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    I think this thread has hit a new low, which is saying a lot.

    I might have to lock it very shortly and be done with this topic.
    Just after it became Sonatine’s favorite. Oh the humanity!

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    gay thread, lock it druffuss !!!!!

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    teenage gossip still alive i see


    dumb as a box a frogs haha !!





    god bless me

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    I think this thread has hit a new low, which is saying a lot.

    I might have to lock it very shortly and be done with this topic.
    I think one more phone call and you'll break through to him.

    Would record it for the eventual court proceedings.
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    I think we're done here.

    Closing the thread now. Please do not create any other thread to circumvent this closure.

    Niko, I urge you one more time to just move past this. Few people care about this anymore, and you might be able to talk yourself back to the properties which banned you. Otherwise just play elsewhere. No court can help you with what you're looking to accomplish. I'm two decades older than you. Take my advice.

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