Hawks PWNING again
4 more TDS for wilson today all in 1st half , guy is on fire
Hawks PWNING again
4 more TDS for wilson today all in 1st half , guy is on fire
Sat Eli, and picked up Russell The Muscle yesterday off waivers.
Hello league Finals!
55
Happy with today's result. Unhappy with the entertainment factor. The half-time show with PSY was actually more entertaining than the game.
Very few games in this league are worth the time.
"The founding fathers did not like the idea of the tyranny of the majority ruling the country"
Dan Druff
“I don't know what weapons World War III will be fought with, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones.”
Albert Einstein
"Yesterday is history, tomorrow is a mystery, but today if a gift
and that is why it's called the present"
Eleanor Roosevelt
Seattle Seahawks coach Pete Carroll faced accusations of running up the score after his team laid a 58-0 whooping on the Arizona Cardinals last week.
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Carroll can expect more of the same this week after the Seahawks converted a first down on a fake punt against the Buffalo Bills on Sunday. The Seahawks had a 30-point lead at the time in a game they ultimately won 50-17.
With 12:49 to play in the fourth quarter, Seahawks punt protector Chris Maragos took the direct snap, stepped to his right and flipped the ball to running back Michael Robinson, who darted through the middle for a 29-yard gain.
It was a neat little play, but one we're sure the Bills thought little of while trailing 47-17.
After the game, Carroll acknowledged the fake punt shouldn't have happened.
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"I feel bad about this," Carroll said. "It was part of our game plan, it was something I could have called off, and I didn't. It's unfortunate that it comes across like there's something wrong there. That's my fault, totally, for not stopping it from happening ... in the sense that it looked bad."
Carroll's strategy brought to mind a similar situation with the Baltimore Ravens last month, when John Harbaugh called for a fake field goal with his team holding a 41-17 lead over the Oakland Raiders. The Ravens scored a touchdown on the play, and Harbaugh drew criticism for the move.
Harbaugh had no regrets. Carroll can't say the same.
Originally Posted by ShadyJ
WHO CARES
THEY'RE WERE JUST PRACTISING ON SUNDAY ANYWAY
"The founding fathers did not like the idea of the tyranny of the majority ruling the country"
Dan Druff
“I don't know what weapons World War III will be fought with, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones.”
Albert Einstein
"Yesterday is history, tomorrow is a mystery, but today if a gift
and that is why it's called the present"
Eleanor Roosevelt
I hope the hawks have this sort of controversy every week. Unbelievable how well they are playing right now.
No need for Carroll to apologize. This is the NFL and you should go for the throat when you get the chance. Look at how quickly Tom Brady got the Pats back into the game last night.
How Much Heat Does Pete Carroll Deserve for Classless Calls
"I feel bad about this," said Seattle Seahawks head coach Pete Carroll.
Carroll, whose Seahawks had just hung 50 points on their opponent for the second week in a row, faced his post-game press conference in the awkward position of having done his job too well.
The week before, Carroll took heat for throwing downfield on the already-defeated Arizona Cardinals, widening a 45-point margin of victory to 58. Carroll apologized, though he was just trying to get his 26 million dollar backup quarterback Matt Flynn some action.
This week, already up on the Buffalo Bills by 30 points in the fourth quarter, the Seahawks faced 4th-and-4 from the Bills 43-yard line. Carroll's team dialed up a clever fake punt that went for a 29-yard gain:
"It was something I could have called off, and I didn't. It's unfortunate that it comes across like there's something wrong there. That's my fault, totally, for not stopping it from happening ... in the sense that it looked bad." - Pete Carroll
Did it look bad? Yes. Was it the epitome of class? No. Should Carroll feel bad?
Absolutely not.
Unlike Carroll's days at USC, where he regularly matched a roster full of future Pro Bowlers up against rosters full of future high school gym teachers, he's coaching in the NFL. His players are all professionals, paid very well to do their job to the best of their ability. His coaching staff and assistants are all professionals, too. Carroll's job is to help his staff get the most out of his players.
If they don't do their jobs, they get fired.
If Seahawks special teams coach Brian Schneider told Carroll he found a way to exploit the Bills' punt-return coverage for a sure first down, it's Carroll's job to pat him on the back and dial it up—not tell Schneider it would look bad.
If Seahawks punt protector Chris Maragos spent practice time this week with long snapper Clint Gresham and tailback Michael Robinson perfecting their execution, it's their job to make that practice pay off—not hear the play call and say "Gee Coach, that would look bad. Let's just punt."
Unlike Carroll's days at USC, the team on the other side of the field isn't a bunch of undergrads playing for room, board, tuition and a jersey they'll hang in their closest and tell their grandkids about. The Buffalo Bills are professionals, too—they're just not as good at their job.
If there's any doubt Carroll and his staff are doing the right thing by never taking their foot off the pedal, the football-watching world should learn a lesson from what happened just hours after Carroll expressed his regrets:
On Sunday Night Football, the San Francisco 49ers built up a shocking 31-3 lead on the New England Patriots. The 49ers shifted into neutral and tried to coast it home; the Patriots went on a furious 28-point tear, tying the game.
Fortunately for Jim Harbaugh and the 49ers, they immediately regained the lead and secured the win. But the lesson is clear: In the NFL, almost no lead is safe.
Of course, sportsmanship is important, and of course every fan wants their team to win "the right way." But every fan wants their team to win—and every coach wants to win, too.
Pete Carroll's on his third season as Seahawks head coach, and his team has gone 7-9 two years in a row. The victory over the Bills clinched Carroll's first winning season; that's a huge win for the Seahawks (and Carroll's career).
Perhaps Carroll feels bad for embarrassing the Cardinals and Bills. But he doesn't feel nearly as bad as if he'd had to take the podium and explain how punting from inside enemy territory was the "classy" decision, even though it led to a historic collapse and loss.
- Ty Schalter
9er's vs Seahawks. It's Gonna Be A Showdown!!!
If you dont understand keeping your foot on the gas, and faking a punt up 30 your clueless. Should he feel bad for beating up on bad teams no, but theres also sportsmanship that you teach your kids at a young age you win and lose with class.
Things I dont understand about fans. You will never admit when someone from your team does something wrong. I will be the first to admit to things done that arent right, but most people the fan part of their brain just doesnt allow it. This is the same guy that said the fail mary was a good call and really a catch when everyone on the planet even people who know nothing about football disagreed. At least this time he maned up for being a deuchebag. It hurts me to have to root for the Seahags to beat the niners which I highly doubt they can do. If they couldnt beat GB at home how will they beat SF who is alot better then GB?
What these idiot sportswriters miss is the real point of the fake punt. I guarantee it wasn't the spec. teams coach saying "ooh we found a weakness in their punt coverage". that's just LOL.
When you're up 30 (or down 30 for that matter) it's a good time to try some plays that are not normally practiced, or not normally used in game situations. Carroll didn't really care if he converted there, but wanted to see how it would play out against a team not expecting it.....very much like what might happen if he called it in a close game during the playoffs.
Of course in this dog-and-pony show that is the American media, he has to apologize for being a good coach.
Wouldn't it be better to keep that play up your sleeve and save it for a situation that counts? Isn't this the reason coaches use very bland schemes in the preseason, so as not to give too much information away?
I was going to go with this vid, but I have to take advantage of any opportunity there is to make a post involving Big Ern.
GTFO of here with that nonsense. We can disagree over the finer points of gas, pedal, scores etc, it doesn't make anyone clueless.
Never admit when my team is wrong?? You have no idea what you are talking about. You're blinded by your hatred of Pete Carroll.
Sportsmanship is about playing hard for a full 60 minutes, and shaking the hand of your foe win or lose.
Lastly, if you don't see that this Hawk team is completely different from the team that played Green Bay I don't know what to tell you.
Now that's out of the way, why are your rooting for the hawks this week, who is your team?
Soul Train VersionI was going to go with this vid, but I have to take advantage of any opportunity there is to make a post involving Big Ern.
Not the way it worked. The hawks had the play automatically dialed up in case they saw a certain look from the bills. Punt protector Chris Margaros correctly identified the look and audibled into the fake. If you are of the mind that the play was bad form, and I would agree it is at least open to debate, then Carroll or special teams coach Brian Schneider should have called the play off knowing it was still in the toolbox.Wouldn't it be better to keep that play up your sleeve and save it for a situation that counts? Isn't this the reason coaches use very bland schemes in the preseason, so as not to give too much information away?
If anything this give team something else they need to prepare for going forward.
Last edited by tony bagadonuts; 12-17-2012 at 04:03 PM.
My thoughts exactlyWouldn't it be better to keep that play up your sleeve and save it for a situation that counts? Isn't this the reason coaches use very bland schemes in the preseason, so as not to give too much information away?
OMG, OMG, OMG!!!!!!!! This is the greatest video in the history of the internet!
TBags what's your better move the front kick or robot?
I bet that front kick so vicious
I wasnt meaning you specifically although your demonstrating it since the coach actually admitted wrong doing, but you (the fan) cannot.
GTFO of here with that nonsense. We can disagree over the finer points of gas, pedal, scores etc, it doesn't make anyone clueless.
Never admit when my team is wrong?? You have no idea what you are talking about. You're blinded by your hatred of Pete Carroll.
Sportsmanship is about playing hard for a full 60 minutes, and shaking the hand of your foe win or lose.
Lastly, if you don't see that this Hawk team is completely different from the team that played Green Bay I don't know what to tell you.
Now that's out of the way, why are your rooting for the hawks this week, who is your team?
Sportsmanship is defined in alot of ways not just generically saying what you said above. Theres other things as well like not faking a punt up 30. They said on espn that other teams will take that out on the Seahags. Its a respect thing that they have for eachother.
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