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    https://boriquagato.substack.com/p/t...onized-empathy

    it’s a natural human impulse to want to help those that look scared or hurt. it’s part of the goodness of many humans.

    but it’s also a weakness that can be preyed upon, used to advantage.

    and i think we’re seeing a lot of that.

    the ability to manipulate others while claiming virtue and status for so doing attracts cluster B traits like rotting fruit attracts wasps.

    this performative fragility has weaponized empathy and for a time, this has proven a very effective tactic of passive aggressive emotional grifting.

    the issue is that past a certain point, people simply stop caring about you and your endless needy demands for the world to order itself around your right not to be offended as the cornerstone and non-negotiable demand of your sense of well being and security.

    it becomes too tiresome and intrusive to support and too obvious a ploy to keep working. you lose your ability to suck in the rubes because the demands grow ever more baroque and the aggressions needed to elicit them grow ever more micro


    but “my emotions are your fault, fix it!” is not really much of an axis-mundi for one’s character, is it?

    eventually, it slips over into just being grating and the response rates to this crybully campaign drop.

    this results in upped intensity to try to get the attention and authority back and this rapidly results in a feedback loop of accusing any who will not accommodate you of being somehow “cruel” and suddenly “just wanting to be left alone” gets cast as malicious.

    this can only be taken so far.

    when the very people accusing you of "lacking concern" are actually playing upon your concern and using it to manipulate you, you eventually wise up.

    it snaps into focus that this was never a damsel in distress, it was a long con.

    at its most charitable, this was just bad pavlovian conditioning induced by getting a cookie every time you throw a tantrum, but a lot of it is done with malice aforethought.

    now go back and look at the image from the beginning of the piece.

    now how does it make you feel?

    it's amazing how broken and and repulsive this looks once you stop feeling a need to protect it.

    there is going to be a lot of "crying alone" as this trick ceases to function.

    i don't mean to be mean. our tear bedecked gate grizzler may well be in acute distress, but pretending like it's all somehow our problem to fix instead of hers when she is the one lacking basic human resiliency of a level at which 5 year olds have been historically expected to perform does not help anyone, least of all our airport anxious annies.

    that’s her being mean to the rest of us and trying to make her problems our problems. do you suspect she had any sympathy for others who disliked “boybands for harris” hats? i’m guessing she’d have railed at them and defended the wearer. and that’s the key pivot, isn’t it?

    it’s one big game of “punch, no punchbacks, empathy for me but not for thee.”

    that is not empathy, it’s tactical morality applied through the performance of aggrievement. but “justification by sad” is no basis for an ethical system.

    what has changed is that the vast abilene paradox of everyone thinking this was mostly absurd but no one speaking up or doing anything about it has broken.

    it feels like a shift in sentiment, but it’s not. it’s the popping of a preference falsification bubble in which sentiment was widely misreported and faked in order to conform to incorrect perceptions of what was popular.

    when it pops, it all goes at once and suddenly everyone is looking around saying “wait a minute, none of you liked this either?” and realizing that the minority they thought themselves to constitute had long been a majority. this is the power of censorship and saturation propaganda: you can mistake a minority for a majority or an extortionist for an ethicist. the public lacks any accurate view into its own collective mind.

    the dam the brothers and sisters of perpetual offendedness are feeling break is one of opinion and social taboo. we were all told we had to care about this, hectored into stopping the ride every time any kid cried, told that that was normal, required, morally obligatory.

    team aggrievement are now struggling with the sound of silence in response to the previously “magic words” of their professions of perturbation.

    they are not ready to hear this.

    but they need to.

    at a certain point, buttercups need to toughen up and more sympathy for their self-cultivated frailty and emotional incapacity is not a path to self-governance or self-confidence, it’s just more cookies for crybullies.

    and it’s OK to say so.

    it’s OK to say no.

    it’s OK to stop falling for this and it’s not on you to make it right.

    it’s the empathetic here who have been taking years of abuse heaped upon them by the narcissistic.

    the irony is thick enough to stand a spoon in: the very trait you were accused of lacking was used to manipulate you into kowtowing to the people who lacked it and who would certainly have never returned such a favor if asked.

    this ends when we stop believing that the self-inculcated fragility of others is somehow on us to fix because they have raised it to the level of passive aggressive performance art.

    Wow I really set this incel off and then went to watch basketball.

    You’re the kid version of splithis. Like no normal female posts on a male dominated forum where everyone makes fun of her for any other reason other than attention, no kid would be reading this site from his teens through his 20s if he had a life. No one with a life would bump a 5 year old Covid thread with copy and paste nonsense every day.

    Fucking losers
    You went to watch overpaid negro's bounce a basketball and shoot it into a hoop as a distraction to your life and you're acting like that's some dunk?

    LMFAO

    Copy and paste nonsense okay pal

    Your inability to ever admit anything is fucking comical

    You were a junkie though so your brain is literally damaged

    Have fun watching hoops faggot


     
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    Man you feel off. Like you're about to start crying like a bitch and cut yourself or something. With split she's post-menopausal and retarded at least, but you're supposed to be a man, or at least faking it. Empathy substacks and now making threads about Kiwi shit? For the thousandth time, no one has or ever will care about your NZ reddit shit.

    You bounce around in your rubber room thread spamming that shit, but new posts? Nah

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by BCR View Post
    Man you feel off. Like you're about to start crying like a bitch and cut yourself or something. With split she's post-menopausal and retarded at least, but you're supposed to be a man, or at least faking it. Empathy substacks and now making threads about Kiwi shit? For the thousandth time, no one has or ever will care about your NZ reddit shit.

    You bounce around in your rubber room thread spamming that shit, but new posts? Nah
    You feel off, the things you support are off

    You voted for a complete disgrace and you actually defend it being an intelligent position?

    I mean really?

    You can't help but act like a sanctimonious piece of shit every chance you get

    You lost, stop coping with delusions you made up in your fucking head. It's pathetic man. You're a grown man. Calling someone an incel is reddit shit you fucking clown, you have your head so far up your ass.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by OK2 View Post
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    Man you feel off. Like you're about to start crying like a bitch and cut yourself or something. With split she's post-menopausal and retarded at least, but you're supposed to be a man, or at least faking it. Empathy substacks and now making threads about Kiwi shit? For the thousandth time, no one has or ever will care about your NZ reddit shit.

    You bounce around in your rubber room thread spamming that shit, but new posts? Nah
    You feel off, the things you support are off

    You voted for a complete disgrace and you actually defend it being and intelligent position?

    I mean really?

    You can't help but act like a sanctimonious piece of shit every chance you get

    You lost, stop coping with delusions you made up in your fucking head. It's pathetic man. You're a grown man. Calling someone an incel is reddit shit you fucking clown, you have your head so far up your ass.

    Reddit shit? Maybe because everything you post here is some copy and paste from 4chan and reddit and incel sites? Every other post is linked to some angry incel shit? What else should I presume? You seem really emotional and off. Uncomfortably so. Very feminine.

    I didn't vote for anyone. Really don't much care. The die was cast and America was hell bent on sucking up to an authoritarian, so let the poors get their way. They need slapped in the face with reality and they'll get it.

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    Let's get back on track here.

    I have my skepticism about DOGE, and it can royally fuck things up if they're not careful.

    With that said....

    1) Yes, there is a huge problem with government waste. I've witnessed it and personally experienced it.

    2) While I think they are going too far with the attack on USAID, the basis for the attack against it was sound. USAID was indeed spending taxpayer dollars on left wing propaganda, in various ways. However, the correct play was to analyze USAID, cut the waste, and fire those responsible for it. They are getting overly aggressive with basically freezing the whole thing, which could have negative consequences in various ways.

    3) Waste is not always ideological, but DOGE is somewhat treating it that way. They should go through major government departments and attack waste there, as that would be the most efficient use of resources (and save the most money!)

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    Quote Originally Posted by BCR View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by OK2 View Post

    You feel off, the things you support are off

    You voted for a complete disgrace and you actually defend it being and intelligent position?

    I mean really?

    You can't help but act like a sanctimonious piece of shit every chance you get

    You lost, stop coping with delusions you made up in your fucking head. It's pathetic man. You're a grown man. Calling someone an incel is reddit shit you fucking clown, you have your head so far up your ass.

    Reddit shit? Maybe because everything you post here is some copy and paste from 4chan and reddit and incel sites? Every other post is linked to some angry incel shit? What else should I presume? You seem really emotional and off. Uncomfortably so. Very feminine.


    You vote for the people wanting tranny's at the olympics for some reason?

    very feminine

    very weird

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    saving the most money would come from cutting off them racketeering schemes called Ukraine and Israel... ^^^^

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Let's get back on track here.

    I have my skepticism about DOGE, and it can royally fuck things up if they're not careful.

    With that said....

    1) Yes, there is a huge problem with government waste. I've witnessed it and personally experienced it.

    2) While I think they are going too far with the attack on USAID, the basis for the attack against it was sound. USAID was indeed spending taxpayer dollars on left wing propaganda, in various ways. However, the correct play was to analyze USAID, cut the waste, and fire those responsible for it. They are getting overly aggressive with basically freezing the whole thing, which could have negative consequences in various ways.

    3) Waste is not always ideological, but DOGE is somewhat treating it that way. They should go through major government departments and attack waste there, as that would be the most efficient use of resources (and save the most money!)

    Most of what Trump has done has been performative so far, and that is not really an insult. He doubled back to reasonable after putting on a show. But the DOGE crew seems to break shit first. I saw other business leaders tell Elon to quit treating it like a company. I found that on point. You can do that shit with a company. Make bold moves and break shit and have your nerds fix it the next day. The government though, you kill something wasteful, and it's attached to a bunch of necessary components. You can't fix messes created over 50 years in a day. You have to unwind them. I don't know if these tech kids have the attention span for that or if they are given too much too quickly?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Let's get back on track here.

    I have my skepticism about DOGE, and it can royally fuck things up if they're not careful.

    With that said....

    1) Yes, there is a huge problem with government waste. I've witnessed it and personally experienced it.

    2) While I think they are going too far with the attack on USAID, the basis for the attack against it was sound. USAID was indeed spending taxpayer dollars on left wing propaganda, in various ways. However, the correct play was to analyze USAID, cut the waste, and fire those responsible for it. They are getting overly aggressive with basically freezing the whole thing, which could have negative consequences in various ways.
    DOGE and the take down of USAID is operating precisely in the spirit of the ideals espoused by Curtis Yarvin.

    Democracy is weak.

    Monarchy is efficient. Successful companies are examples of monarchies. Steve Jobs and Apple was a monarchy with top down directives.

    Yarvin would contend that if California was run as Steve Jobs ran Apple it wouldn’t be the failure it is today. Elon shall do the same for America. Musk runs SpaceX and Starlink in an aggressive fashion too.

    FDR was America’s best and most recent example of a monarchy. FDR has been the darling of the Tech Bros for years and held as an ideal. How many times have you heard FDR mentioned by Vance, Thiel, Andreeson and the ever expanding group of disciples of Yarvin. It’s not random.

    Trump isn’t asking for public input on the future of Gaza to use another example. That would be inefficient. We don’t have time for that. Susie Wile’s expression was priceless but she needs to fall in line.

    Peter Thiel sat watching the 2016 returns with Yarvin. Personally, I find Thiel and Yarvin speak in the same stuttering rambling fashion. I will find it more natural sounding to my ear as the years roll by.

    I’m not saying I agree. I’m just telling you how it is. This has been completely unsurprising to me.

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    Druff crawls out of his hole. I prayed for you pal. Get well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sanlmar View Post
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    Let's get back on track here.

    I have my skepticism about DOGE, and it can royally fuck things up if they're not careful.

    With that said....

    1) Yes, there is a huge problem with government waste. I've witnessed it and personally experienced it.

    2) While I think they are going too far with the attack on USAID, the basis for the attack against it was sound. USAID was indeed spending taxpayer dollars on left wing propaganda, in various ways. However, the correct play was to analyze USAID, cut the waste, and fire those responsible for it. They are getting overly aggressive with basically freezing the whole thing, which could have negative consequences in various ways.
    DOGE and the take down of USAID is operating precisely in the spirit of the ideals espoused by Curtis Yarvin.

    Democracy is weak.

    Monarchy is efficient. Successful companies are examples of monarchies. Steve Jobs and Apple was a monarchy with top down directives.

    Yarvin would contend that if California was run as Steve Jobs ran Apple it wouldn’t be the failure it is today. Elon shall do the same for America. Musk runs SpaceX and Starlink in an aggressive fashion too.

    FDR was America’s best and most recent example of a monarchy. FDR has been the darling of the Tech Bros for years and held as an ideal. How many times have you heard FDR mentioned by Vance, Thiel, Andreeson and the ever expanding group of disciples of Yarvin. It’s not random.

    Trump isn’t asking for public input on the future of Gaza to use another example. That would be inefficient. We don’t have time for that. Susie Wile’s expression was priceless but she needs to fall in line.

    Peter Thiel sat watching the 2016 returns with Yarvin. Personally, I find Thiel and Yarvin speak in the same stuttering rambling fashion. I will find it more natural sounding to my ear as the years roll by.

    I’m not saying I agree. I’m just telling you how it is. This has been completely unsurprising to me.
    Yarvin used to post on 2+2 politics forum back in early 2000s. He already had a blog and didn’t post on 2plus2 under same screen name, but he or someone else linked me to his blog through pm.

    He was well received then. I had no idea he had become this influential. Shocked that escaped me. Not surprising as pretty much all of the Thiel movement, that book on Ross Ulbricht, that was the discussion every day on early 2000s 2plus2. I wouldn’t be surprised if at one point they were all posting.

    The whole forum hierarchy was anarcho capitalist Rothbard disciples arguing about who would build the roads.

    It was horrible to be sick and confined to home at 30, but poker blowing up and 2plus2 having constant discussions where you could bounce back and forth between those politics guys and Nate Silver discussing baseball, Harlabob discussing basketball, and then jump over to NWP to watch guys go on Heeb runs and kids drive themselves headfirst into semis and somehow survive. All with a heads up $200 sit-n-go fired up in the background.

    If you had to be stuck at home, the golden age of poker and forums wasn’t a bad time. Easy to distract yourself. You’d play a sit n go and there would be 100 new posts on interesting subjects and the signal to noise ratio was excellent at that time with a lot of smart young guys emerging.

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    Wow. What a post. Lot to unpack.

    You seriously had exposure to Yarvin at the turn of the century? I only happened upon him a year or two ago as I tried to cipher the tech bros ascendancy to power. I got lost in the Elon books and the whole 9 yards. But this has all been recent to me.

    The temperament of the era you describe survives. The All In tech billionaire bros gather around a poker table still. Faint traces of Micon can be detected. The anarchy and rejection of social norms.

    We come full circle with Ross Ulbricht being pardoned by his peer group who now populate Washington.

    I missed the peak you describe so eloquently. I was working like a fool which I regret mightily now. I have a lost decade which I can’t account for today. Maybe we each lost a decade in quite different ways.

    By the time I returned to society at large - post DD and the crappier lower signal to noise 2+2 which I found intolerable by then …. I missed the formative years of a generation. Even 9/11 and “W” didn’t register til 2007 honestly.

    Crazy fucking times both then and now.

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    Wow. What a post. Lot to unpack.

    You seriously had exposure to Yarvin at the turn of the century? I only happened upon him a year or two ago as I tried to cipher the tech bros ascendancy to power. I got lost in the Elon books and the whole 9 yards. But this has all been recent to me.

    The temperament of the era you describe survives. The All In tech billionaire bros gather around a poker table still. Faint traces of Micon can be detected. The anarchy and rejection of social norms.

    We come full circle with Ross Ulbricht being pardoned by his peer group who now populate Washington.

    I missed the peak you describe so eloquently. I was working like a fool which I regret mightily now. I have a lost decade which I can’t account for today. Maybe we each lost a decade in quite different ways.

    By the time I returned to society at large - post DD and the crappier lower signal to noise 2+2 which I found intolerable by then …. I missed the formative years of a generation. Even 9/11 and “W” didn’t register til 2007 honestly.

    Crazy fucking times both then and now.
    I could be messing up the years a little. I was sick from like 2000-07. I want to say more like 2005ish most likely? I was playing online for a few years before even the forums became big. I read sites like rec forum poker or something like that before 2plus2.

    There was a period where the whole 2plus2 politics site was anarcho capitalists talking Austrian economics and Rothbard. All Mises Institute all day. I was more a reader than someone who engaged much. I probably had 500 posts total. I just recall someone sending me a link to his blog. But I wikied him after my post and it appears his blog was more 2007. So he may have posted there for a few years and then started a blog and someone sent it to me when I wondered where he went. Or possibly posted it after he left as to where he went. But I recall being linked and seeing that name he used on blog. It was different on 2plus2.

    Like I still do with a lot of that stuff. I agree. I agree. Then I say that’s nuts. It was interesting. But I wasn’t an advocate.

    That’s my history with any version of Libertarian thought. There were a few dozen really frequent posters and hundreds of people commenting. I just recall him being one of those who would advocate very extreme positions on shit even for a Libertarian. He’s younger than I am. How fleshed out his ideas were at the time I don’t know compared to now? I mean I recall whole pro slavery discussions among that group. He wasn’t the most popular poster there in that crowd even. They were almost all in tech and VC.

    Their ideas were also really not PC, so as things became more PC, their ideas were facing a lot more critique because Libertarian types argue all kinds of crazy stuff. They had a run of being the dominant voice on the forum and then because considered over the line in their arguments. I’d guess that’s when he started a blog. Like I said, that whole group was in Silicon Valley. I recall when reading that book on Ross thinking he had to be reading that forum when I was in my early 30s and he was a college kid, because that was the only place where I saw so many in that same headspace all congregated and sharing that Mises/Ron Paul/Austrian Economic theory talk. I’d guess many from that movement were there because it was like the main discussion for a few years. A lot of smart kids, well written, but like all Libertarian stuff, also really heartless or way out there.

     
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    lol at calling Trump an authoritarian when that faggot loving Biden….

    Pushed faggotry on EVERYONE including children.

    Forced taxpayers to pay for faggotry sex change surgery.

    Added 87000 IRS agents to go after the rich lol.

    Sent Billions and billions to Ukraine.

    DEI BULLSHIT DUMBING DOWN ALL OF AMERICA.

    The American people voted for NONE of this.

    Trump cannot do ENOUGH.

    LOL BCR IS STILL A WEAK FAGGOT.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by splitthis View Post
    lol at calling Trump an authoritarian when that faggot loving Biden….

    Pushed faggotry on EVERYONE including children.

    Forced taxpayers to pay for faggotry sex change surgery.

    Added 87000 IRS agents to go after the rich lol.

    Sent Billions and billions to Ukraine.

    DEI BULLSHIT DUMBING DOWN ALL OF AMERICA.

    The American people voted for NONE of this.

    Trump cannot do ENOUGH.

    LOL BCR IS STILL A WEAK FAGGOT.
    Biden was in full blown cognitive failure. Great effort was devoted to hiding it by Washington and the press.

    Yarvin is fond of pointing out how the American public was largely unaware that FDR was in a wheelchair due to polio.

    Democracy

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    Quote Originally Posted by splitthis View Post
    lol at calling Trump an authoritarian when that faggot loving Biden….

    Pushed faggotry on EVERYONE including children.

    Forced taxpayers to pay for faggotry sex change surgery.

    Added 87000 IRS agents to go after the rich lol.

    Sent Billions and billions to Ukraine.

    DEI BULLSHIT DUMBING DOWN ALL OF AMERICA.

    The American people voted for NONE of this.

    Trump cannot do ENOUGH.

    LOL BCR IS STILL A WEAK FAGGOT.
    It's important to occasionally listen to the other side, Bernie's TRACK RECORD ON BEING RIGHT IS pretty much SECOND TO NONE.
    This is a dire warning, key word Kleptocracy.


    Since Trump's innag. 2 fucking weeks
    Musk $154 billion richer that's 154,000,000,000 wtf!
    Zuck $43,000,000,000
    Bezos $35,000,000,000

    Wake the fuck up, something is wrong here.

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    country978: buy more pltr

    Did you? It’s getting beyond stupid.

    Take a little off and buy something nice. We gonna need warm mittens this week. Stay well my friend

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sanlmar View Post
    country978: buy more pltr

    Did you? It’s getting beyond stupid.

    Take a little off and buy something nice. We gonna need warm mittens this week. Stay well my friend


    it's run too far. i sold 85%. may not retrace. don't care. great call San.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tellafriend View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Sanlmar View Post
    country978: buy more pltr

    Did you? It’s getting beyond stupid.

    Take a little off and buy something nice. We gonna need warm mittens this week. Stay well my friend


    it's run too far. i sold 85%. may not retrace. don't care. great call San.
    Was it 2-3 years ago you suggested everyone buy some of this? I bought some $11ish and then more at $32 what seems like only a few months ago. I'm holding onto what I have but not buying more. Its gone from being 1-2% of my holdings to 15% and is now a bigger gain for me than nvda which I also have not sold. Thanks to tellefriend I still have cava and avgo too.

    I was too slow to catch on recently when LLY took a big $75 or so beating in a single day that it was actually a tremendous buying opportunity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Let's get back on track here.

    I have my skepticism about DOGE, and it can royally fuck things up if they're not careful.

    With that said....

    1) Yes, there is a huge problem with government waste. I've witnessed it and personally experienced it.

    2) While I think they are going too far with the attack on USAID, the basis for the attack against it was sound. USAID was indeed spending taxpayer dollars on left wing propaganda, in various ways. However, the correct play was to analyze USAID, cut the waste, and fire those responsible for it. They are getting overly aggressive with basically freezing the whole thing, which could have negative consequences in various ways.

    3) Waste is not always ideological, but DOGE is somewhat treating it that way. They should go through major government departments and attack waste there, as that would be the most efficient use of resources (and save the most money!)
    Through USAID the federal government was paying media to spew leftist propaganda.

    Hang ‘em

     
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      1dollarboxcar: Obummer passed that law where it was legal for the US government to propagandize it's own citizens...
      
      splitthis: Hang them publicly I will bring popcorn
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