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    thought i had the lock wong teaser for this week but washington blows a huge lead and gives up a TD on last play of the game and now i gotta sweat overtime.....


    siiiiiiiiiiiiike Nawlins goes for 2 and that decision immediately makes me lose whether they are successful at it or not LOL



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    Quote Originally Posted by rollinx420 View Post
    thought i had the lock wong teaser for this week but washington blows a huge lead and gives up a TD on last play of the game and now i gotta sweat overtime.....

    siiiiiiiiiiiiike Nawlins goes for 2 and that decision immediately makes me lose whether they are successful at it or not LOL

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    I have a book which still gives good odds for teases (-110 for two team 6 points, which an additional 10c to buy half points), and I have recently started buying half points/full points to get down to 1 or up to 9, which I would have never done before the last couple years. I dont have any math to back it up, but I just feel all the going for 2 teams do now makes 1 and 8-9 point wins more likely. Shrug.

    But yeah, having the end of game go Saints TD, missed Commanders FG, and then Saints TD with missed 2 point conversion is pretty brutal if you had Commanders teased to -1.5. I had Saints +7.5, so was feeling good as soon as the FG missed.

    For my "How the fuck did that happen" bets I had Dolphins +3 and Colts teased to 11. Dolphins game was just your standard "LOL Turnovers"

    For Colts game final score is very misleading, as Colts were going to go up 20-10 at the beginning of the 3rd when Taylor did the classic drop the ball too soon when going into end zone causing a turnover. And then a Broncos defensive and special teams TD (technically 15 yard drive) completely turned the game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tgull View Post
    I made $1,400 last night screwing around with college BB halftimes. I withdrew today and of course I have the option to cancel the withdraw until COB tonight. Hopefully I can stay away. Couple drinks this afternoon who knows, fist clenching for sure. I really want the money though, something is just incredibly rewarding making $1400 for doing literally nothing.
    I made another $500 on the Broncos - Colts game. I thought I was hosed, then the running back tossed the ball before scoring, and then there was the most ridiculous play call on the end around interception for a TD. If you watched the game, you would realize what a luck box I got on this one. Last bet of the year, I am just mentally betting fatigued and don't want any sweat over Christmas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tgull View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by tgull View Post
    I made $1,400 last night screwing around with college BB halftimes. I withdrew today and of course I have the option to cancel the withdraw until COB tonight. Hopefully I can stay away. Couple drinks this afternoon who knows, fist clenching for sure. I really want the money though, something is just incredibly rewarding making $1400 for doing literally nothing.
    I made another $500 on the Broncos - Colts game. I thought I was hosed, then the running back tossed the ball before scoring, and then there was the most ridiculous play call on the end around interception for a TD. If you watched the game, you would realize what a luck box I got on this one. Last bet of the year, I am just mentally betting fatigued and don't want any sweat over Christmas.

    see you christmas day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tellafriend View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by tgull View Post

    I made another $500 on the Broncos - Colts game. I thought I was hosed, then the running back tossed the ball before scoring, and then there was the most ridiculous play call on the end around interception for a TD. If you watched the game, you would realize what a luck box I got on this one. Last bet of the year, I am just mentally betting fatigued and don't want any sweat over Christmas.

    see you christmas day.
    He probably doesn't make it through tonight.

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    see you christmas day.
    He probably doesn't make it through tonight.


    we won't either in fairness.


    i don't see how you can't do a -6.5 teaser w Minny here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tellafriend View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Kalam View Post

    He probably doesn't make it through tonight.


    we won't either in fairness.


    i don't see how you can't do a -6.5 teaser w Minny here.

    fade accordingly.
    I hope you're joking... -6.5 teasers should never be done.

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    Deleted ... posted pic after game started. THought it was 5:10

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    Here's one tht hasn't started:

    Las Vegas vs Atlanta - Over 44.5 -110

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
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    we won't either in fairness.


    i don't see how you can't do a -6.5 teaser w Minny here.

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    I hope you're joking... -6.5 teasers should never be done.


    nope.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tellafriend View Post
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    I hope you're joking... -6.5 teasers should never be done.


    nope.
    In our post -110 world I contend Wong Teasers are obsolete too

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tellafriend View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Kalam View Post

    He probably doesn't make it through tonight.
    we won't either in fairness.

    i don't see how you can't do a -6.5 teaser w Minny here.

    fade accordingly.
    Of course I did a teased Minnesota -6 with Arizona Cardinals -6 yesterday. Easy money.

    In WTF just happened news, I took Bulls -1.5 tonight, and they were up double digits the whole second half, and somehow managed to win by only 1, due to an end of game missed free throw by them and half court buzzer beater by Raptors.

    Edit: I also teased Falcons -6 tonight with Cinci next week, but didn't want to jinx it by by announcing while Raiders are going for a Hail Mary to win.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sanlmar View Post
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    nope.
    In our post -110 world I contend Wong Teasers are obsolete too
    Well, given most American sports bettors are donking off their recreational money betting parlays with completely boinked odds; 6 point teasers on 6 point favorites are the least of their problems. It is like arguing to penny slot junkies that they shouldn't be playing optimal blackjack from a 6 deck shoe because it is -EV.

    If you do the math teasing -6 or -6.5 to ML actually isn't giving up very much EV compared to betting -110 sides or ML's. (At least -110 teasers I have access to)

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    Boy I've been ice cold lately

    Almost did Falcons -6 instead of this under, but that would've pushed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalam View Post
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    In our post -110 world I contend Wong Teasers are obsolete too
    Well, given most American sports bettors are donking off their recreational money betting parlays with completely boinked odds; 6 point teasers on 6 point favorites are the least of their problems. It is like arguing to penny slot junkies that they shouldn't be playing optimal blackjack from a 6 deck shoe because it is -EV.

    If you do the math teasing -6 or -6.5 to ML actually isn't giving up very much EV compared to betting -110 sides or ML's. (At least -110 teasers I have access to)
    I don't understand.

    Why not just do parlays?

    Only crossing the 3 line sucks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Kalam View Post

    Well, given most American sports bettors are donking off their recreational money betting parlays with completely boinked odds; 6 point teasers on 6 point favorites are the least of their problems. It is like arguing to penny slot junkies that they shouldn't be playing optimal blackjack from a 6 deck shoe because it is -EV.

    If you do the math teasing -6 or -6.5 to ML actually isn't giving up very much EV compared to betting -110 sides or ML's. (At least -110 teasers I have access to)
    I don't understand.

    Why not just do parlays?

    Only crossing the 3 line sucks.
    Fair enough. If you are specifically teasing two (or more) 6 or 6.5 favorites and the games are not at the same time, you should just do a parlay. But that exact scenario doesn't come up a ton. I just scanned my history and of the last 10 teasers I have done this is the only time that exact scenario played out (teasing Minn/Arizona from -6 to ML).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalam View Post
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    I don't understand.

    Why not just do parlays?

    Only crossing the 3 line sucks.
    Fair enough. If you are specifically teasing two (or more) 6 or 6.5 favorites and the games are not at the same time, you should just do a parlay. But that exact scenario doesn't come up a ton. I just scanned my history and of the last 10 teasers I have done this is the only time that exact scenario played out (teasing Minn/Arizona from -6 to ML).
    I made the last post at 3 am and my mind wasn't working right. I meant you should just bet one team ML, and then bet the other team ML letting it ride; which is better than teasing. Parlaying two 6 point favorites ML is NOT generally better than teasing -110.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalam View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post

    I don't understand.

    Why not just do parlays?

    Only crossing the 3 line sucks.
    Fair enough. If you are specifically teasing two (or more) 6 or 6.5 favorites and the games are not at the same time, you should just do a parlay. But that exact scenario doesn't come up a ton. I just scanned my history and of the last 10 teasers I have done this is the only time that exact scenario played out (teasing Minn/Arizona from -6 to ML).
    Mathematically speaking the largest move in ML over 1 point in the spread is from -2.5 to -3.5. The second largest is -6.5 to -7.5.

    Nothing says you cant tease down 6.5 to .5….. but probability says you will be far more successful teasing the 7.5 than the “just one point” would normally indicate.

    Also you going from effectively even money to +275 or so depending on book giving up the 6 points. Thats big diff on payout considering the lack of perceived value on the 6 points.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daly View Post
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    Fair enough. If you are specifically teasing two (or more) 6 or 6.5 favorites and the games are not at the same time, you should just do a parlay. But that exact scenario doesn't come up a ton. I just scanned my history and of the last 10 teasers I have done this is the only time that exact scenario played out (teasing Minn/Arizona from -6 to ML).
    Mathematically speaking the largest move in ML over 1 point in the spread is from -2.5 to -3.5. The second largest is -6.5 to -7.5.

    Nothing says you cant tease down 6.5 to .5….. but probability says you will be far more successful teasing the 7.5 than the “just one point” would normally indicate.

    Also you going from effectively even money to +275 or so depending on book giving up the 6 points. Thats big diff on payout considering the lack of perceived value on the 6 points.
    Fair enough. My point is if you are dedicated to only making +EV bets, you shouldn't be teasing 6.5 favorites. But given most of us are just flipping coins on sides/totals at -110 odds (or worse regularly making parlays and prop bets with much worse odds) teasing 6.5 favorites isn't that big of a deal. Druff is acting like it is Keno levels of -EV, which it really isn't.

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