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    Quote Originally Posted by VaughnP View Post

    so apparently a gun shop in CT sold someone a B&T recently and they are now main characters.
    "Birds born in a cage think flying is an illness." - Alejandro Jodorowsky

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    Two different people? Or same person?




     
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    "Birds born in a cage think flying is an illness." - Alejandro Jodorowsky

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    Insurance companies look at Medicare and if they pay, they will pay. At this point individual insurance companies have outlived their usefulness.

    Medicare decides what a doctor can do for an individual and if they don’t, they don’t get paid.

    There is an entirely new level of scam going on with these Medicare advantage plans. People that get others to sign on get paid on a rolling basis.

    There is all too much waste. The dude that got wasted is not worth 200 million.

    Hoping new administration gets rid of all the ancillary bs and get back to just care.
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    Quote Originally Posted by splitthis View Post
    Insurance companies look at Medicare and if they pay, they will pay. At this point individual insurance companies have outlived their usefulness.

    Medicare decides what a doctor can do for an individual and if they don’t, they don’t get paid.

    There is an entirely new level of scam going on with these Medicare advantage plans. People that get others to sign on get paid on a rolling basis.

    There is all too much waste. The dude that got wasted is not worth 200 million.

    Hoping new administration gets rid of all the ancillary bs and get back to just care.
    Single payer, mirite?

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    Despite the differences in backpack color and what some believe to be different facial features, the two pictures released are of the same guy.

    They know a lot about him now, but not his name, and they still don't have a full, unhooded facial pic of him.

    He is not from NYC. He came into town on November 24, stayed at a hostel, checked out for 3 days, then came back there. He had some roommates (strangers) at the hostel, who have not said much about him yet, or at least that hasn't been released. He took a taxi to McDonald's at one point. He checked into the hostel with a fake New Jersey ID. He apparently had the mask and hood on the entire time -- something which didn't arouse suspicion because of the cool weather in NYC.

    The best shot of him -- the smiling photo -- was due to either an inability to say not to a girl, or fear of bringing on suspicion. The girl at the front desk at the hostel was having a conversation with him, and said, "Come on, let's see what you look like... pull down the mask!" At that point, he did pull down the mask and gave that big smile. That's the clearest photo authorities have of him. It's unclear if he just couldn't say not to the (presumably young and pretty) female desk clerk, or if he was afraid that refusing to show his face would cause her to report him to authorities. I'm guessing it's more likely the latter.

    The hostel would suggest he doesn't have much money. He would have had fewer witnesses staying in a hotel without any roommates, even a cheap one.

    He looks young in the pictures.

    "Deny, defend, depose" actually has a second meaning -- it seems to be a modification of the title of a book criticizing the insurance industry, called "Delay, Deny, Defend". Someone on Reddit posted a link to the book in PDF format.

    Again, unless this is an intentional false lead, this hit was clearly some sort of revenge about a denied claim. Given that the shooter looks young, it's likely about a relative, such as his parent.

     
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    A lot of people prob know who he is but won’t rat him out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by splitthis View Post
    A lot of people prob know who he is but won’t rat him out.
    It's actually fairly surprising that nobody can tell who he is from that smiling picture. This is a gigantic news story and I have to imagine a high percentage of adults have seen those pictures by now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by splitthis View Post
    A lot of people prob know who he is but won’t rat him out.
    He is clearly unknown as of now and my hunch is he is, 'Well To Do' and has money etc..

    So people wouldn't expect this of him either now, so all are quiet still

    Story is interesting..

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    10k reward money, almost like they don’t want to find killer. Hood rats in the ghetto command a higher reward.
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    Quote Originally Posted by splitthis View Post
    10k reward money, almost like they don’t want to find killer. Hood rats in the ghetto command a higher reward.
    What would that be after taxes, split?

    Wouldn’t it be something if the entire country has adopted a jailhouse attitude toward snitches in this instance. You don’t wanna catch a beating if you recognize the guy in the picture.

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    Absolutely ridiculous that this is the lead story across the country, even on local stations. This guy might be getting more coverage than the assassination attempts on a Presidential candidate received, especially the 2nd at the Golf Course.

    People get targeted and shot daily, especially in the ‘hood. Little effort goes into investigation of these murders let alone pics being broadcast across the nation.

    It appears black lives still don’t matter compared to rich white guys.

     
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    I am ready for him to be picked up so we can move to the interesting part.

    Jury trial.

    Child Molester
    Health Insurance CEO
    Garden variety murderer



    At minimum, he is a serial killer.

    No jury consultant necessary. Give me a bunch of people over 45 and try to find 12 jurors who haven’t at one point wanted to claw their own eyes out when dealing with the carefully constructed health insurance sophistry all designed to wear you down until you quit or preferably die before they have to pay a claim.

    Go ahead. Trot his wife and kids out for me and tell me heartwarming dad stories. I can promise you I would be the most completely unmoved human being alive. I’d stare them in the eyes as I said not guilty and tell them to enjoy their inheritance on the way out of the courtroom.

    Like guards at Treblinka were at least young men for the most part cultivated and developed into sociopathic killers. This guy was 50 and I can’t imagine what a ghoul one must be to rise to CEO of a health insurance monster like United is.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by BCR View Post
    I am ready for him to be picked up so we can move to the interesting part.

    Jury trial.

    Child Molester
    Health Care CEO
    Garden variety murderer



    At minimum, he is a serial killer.

    No jury consultant necessary. Give me a bunch of people over 45 and try to find 12 jurors who haven’t at one point wanted to claw their own eyes out when dealing with the carefully constructed health insurance sophistry all designed to wear you down until you quit or preferably die before they have to pay a claim.

    Go ahead. Trot his wife and kids out for me and tell me heartwarming dad stories. I can promise you I would be the most completely unmoved human being alive. I’d stare them in the eyes as I said not guilty and tell them to enjoy their inheritance on the way out of the courtroom.

    Like guards at Treblinka were at least young men for the most part cultivated and developed into sociopathic killers. This guy was 50 and I can’t imagine what a ghoul one must be to rise to CEO of a health insurance monster like United is.
    ZERO chance he’s found Not Guilty. Only in your far, fringe leftist view of the world would someone shooting someone walking down the street point blank be not guilty.

    Again you people make it so easy to laugh at your views of the country and world. Even Bernie and Lizzy aren’t as crazy as you. Was it your parents, college or just your shitty life choices that made you so crazy and jealous of success?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Boz View Post
    Absolutely ridiculous that this is the lead story across the country, even on local stations. This guy might be getting more coverage than the assassination attempts on a Presidential candidate received, especially the 2nd at the Golf Course.

    People get targeted and shot daily, especially in the ‘hood. Little effort goes into investigation of these murders let alone pics being broadcast across the nation.

    It appears black lives still don’t matter compared to rich white guys.
    You’re missing the point. Perhaps you’ve been busy.

    Nobody cares about the rich white guy. Quite the opposite. He’s a proxy for American Healthcare. The public reaction is stunning.

    The kid is DB Cooper

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Boz View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by BCR View Post
    I am ready for him to be picked up so we can move to the interesting part.

    Jury trial.

    Child Molester
    Health Care CEO
    Garden variety murderer



    At minimum, he is a serial killer.

    No jury consultant necessary. Give me a bunch of people over 45 and try to find 12 jurors who haven’t at one point wanted to claw their own eyes out when dealing with the carefully constructed health insurance sophistry all designed to wear you down until you quit or preferably die before they have to pay a claim.

    Go ahead. Trot his wife and kids out for me and tell me heartwarming dad stories. I can promise you I would be the most completely unmoved human being alive. I’d stare them in the eyes as I said not guilty and tell them to enjoy their inheritance on the way out of the courtroom.

    Like guards at Treblinka were at least young men for the most part cultivated and developed into sociopathic killers. This guy was 50 and I can’t imagine what a ghoul one must be to rise to CEO of a health insurance monster like United is.
    ZERO chance he’s found Not Guilty. Only in your far, fringe leftist view of the world would someone shooting someone walking down the street point blank be not guilty.

    Again you people make it so easy to laugh at your views of the country and world. Even Bernie and Lizzy aren’t as crazy as you. Was it your parents, college or just your shitty life choices that made you so crazy and jealous of success?
    You deem that life a success? I have more respect for cartel kingpins. At least most of them had to get their hands dirty at one point before they simply ordered the hits.

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    Trump will do or say anything to increase his popularity but he has been quiet on the subject. CORRECT me if I’m wrong.

    A true populist would seize the public zeitgeist

    Trumps billionaire circle might object though

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sanlmar View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by The Boz View Post
    Absolutely ridiculous that this is the lead story across the country, even on local stations. This guy might be getting more coverage than the assassination attempts on a Presidential candidate received, especially the 2nd at the Golf Course.

    People get targeted and shot daily, especially in the ‘hood. Little effort goes into investigation of these murders let alone pics being broadcast across the nation.

    It appears black lives still don’t matter compared to rich white guys.
    You’re missing the point. Perhaps you’ve been busy.

    Nobody cares about the rich white guy. Quite the opposite. He’s a proxy for American Healthcare. The public reaction is stunning.

    The kid is DB Cooper
    So is Thomas Crooks a hero to the left?

    And have you seen one news story where it is being reported this shooting was justified? Or is that just a leftist talking point among the few of you left?

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