Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post

How did that work out for al-Qaeda when their leadership was eradicated?

What terror groups WANT to do and what they end up doing are two different things. Leaders aren't just figureheads. They need to inspire, organize, and strategize. You can't just swap one Muhammad for another and expect everything to operate the same.

Israel is hitting Hezbollah hard because they're the actual threat. Hamas was far less capable and blew their load on 10/7. Israel is now going to go hard against Iran's proxies, and the maybe go after Iran itself.

There's also the belief that Iran is doing all of this to prevent Israel from establishing relations with Saudi Arabia, and then stabilizing the area. Iran wants control of the region. That would explain why Hamas attacked despite having control of Gaza since 2005. It seemed against Hamas' interests to do this, as it was unlikely to result in a better situation for them or the people of Gaza. It looks like Hamas was probably pressured or manipulated by Iran to do this attack, and then basically left in the lurch to get annihilated.
Did Ben Shapiro fail to tell you that al-Qaeda was Israel's/CIA terror group used to take down Gaddaffi in Libya, fight the houthis in Yemen and attempt to overthrow Syria? Hezbollah fought against them in Syria while Israel/CIA gave al-Qaeda weapons and air support, Russia took them out and saved Syria from becoming part of Greater Israel. Look up operation timber sycamore.

Ben likes to explain the history of Hezbollah by saying it formed in 1982 because they hated Jews. Just like he uses Oct 7 as the starting point for Hamas attacking occupying israel.

Hezbollah started after Israel brutally attacked Lebanon in 1978 and 1982 causing humanitarian crisis and killing civilians indiscriminately, as they like to do. It was either fight back or become part of Greater Israel. They chose to fight. There is no way that Israel repeating the brutality against civilians in both Gaza and Lebenon is going to lead to anything but the cycle repeating itself.

I don't know much about Saudia Arabia but it appears on the surface that they have started leaning towards Russia/China/Iran as strategic partners versus going down with the West. China helped negotiate peace between them and Iran. They have applied for entry into BRICS. Their population hates Israel, so leadership is safer on the other side. They may be hedging bets and sitting on the fence to see how things develop. They were on a path to create better ties with Israel but Israels actions in Gaza has reversed it. W for Hamas. Arabs don't care about their own lives while they are being brutally occupied. They fight and die for a future where they are not subjugated by eastern european Jews. Your statement that Palestinians have 'control' of Gaza is laughable, they were shoved off their land and are being occupied in that small area. That was never a solution.

Do you recognize that the fanatical religion extremists running Israel have always had ambitions to take Lebanon, Syria, Jordan, parts of Egypt, Iraq and Saudia Arabia to fulfill their biblical destiny? Look at the IDF badge on their uniform.