Dune by Frank Herbert

[Daly]

true story; i collect early editions of this series.

quick update; i run extremely good at books.

Can we get a update here?

I mean I have friends who list baseball cards for 100K. Its just like a house anyone can list something for sale for whatever they want.

[sonatine]

quick update; i run extremely good at books.

Can we get a update here?

I mean I have friends who list baseball cards for 100K. Its just like a house anyone can list something for sale for whatever they want.

[Daly]

Is that autoed copy a 1965 version in similar condition?

Point proven though…. 18K is a lot for a bunch of paper.

[Tellafriend]

Is that autoed copy a 1965 version in similar condition?

Point proven though…. 18K is a lot for a bunch of paper.

and $65,000 for btc in a wallet? haha, i know, i know.

[Daly]

Is that autoed copy a 1965 version in similar condition?

Point proven though…. 18K is a lot for a bunch of paper.

and $65,000 for btc in a wallet? haha, i know, i know.

Yeah its all nuts

Of course i could say the BTC is supported by energy and the USD is supported by nothing.


And thats when someone adds a picture of a Nuke or a Aircraft carrier that says “USS Nothing”.

[Tellafriend]

and $65,000 for btc in a wallet? haha, i know, i know.

Yeah its all nuts

Of course i could say the BTC is supported by energy and the USD is supported by nothing.


And thats when someone adds a picture of a Nuke or a Aircraft carrier that says “USS Nothing”.

another - you can pay your taxes with USD.

personally - our USD are trash, but the best trash on the block for now. what a shame.

[Dan Druff]

I'll admit that I never read the book.

I saw the 1984 movie, which turned me off to Dune. It was boring and confusing. I tried to understand and like it, but it simply made no sense.

My friend I saw it with agreed.

I saw a TON of moves at that point of my life (I was 12 in 1984), and Dune was one of the least entertaining and hardest to understand. At the time I chalked it up to being a 12-year-old and the movie being over my head.

Much later, as an adult, I looked up reviews online, and noticed that intelligent 1984 adults, such as Roger Ebert, also had the same reaction to it that I did. And apparently if you didn't read the book beforehand, you were lost, which is a huge no-no when making a movie.

David Lynch, who made the film, was so ashamed of it that he took his name off it.

[sonatine]

didnt love Dune 2.

didnt hate it. but it seemed to sacrifice a lot of the depth of the world and the characters.

everyone was simply much more interesting in the books, especially the emperor and feyd. the BBC dune adaptation really got feyd right, especially his relationship with vladimir.

but like, where is the spacing guild in all this? in the book, representatives of the guild are present with the emperor during the final showdown. and thats an incredibly important point because when paul threatens to obliterate the spice, the guild (through their spicey powers) recognize the truth of the threat. this basically explains how the means for a galactic jihad become available to paul.

anyway whatever. it could have been much, much worse. they started preproduction on dune messiah which is promising i guess.. better than leaving the story as is i suppose.

[tigerpiper]

The 1984 movie was bad, but when I watched it over and over again, I liked it. I saw it on acid one time, too, and it was good.

The new one, much more faithful to the book. I took my middle daughter to it because she likes Tim Chalofee, who is nice on the eyes, and she kept asking me what was happening,

Because even with a long movie, it makes not much sense unless you know what's going on.

Haven't see 2, yet, but I'd watch it on Netflix or something.

[Sloppy Joe]

didnt love Dune 2.

didnt hate it. but it seemed to sacrifice a lot of the depth of the world and the characters.

everyone was simply much more interesting in the books, especially the emperor and feyd. the BBC dune adaptation really got feyd right, especially his relationship with vladimir.

but like, where is the spacing guild in all this? in the book, representatives of the guild are present with the emperor during the final showdown. and thats an incredibly important point because when paul threatens to obliterate the spice, the guild (through their spicey powers) recognize the truth of the threat. this basically explains how the means for a galactic jihad become available to paul.

anyway whatever. it could have been much, much worse. they started preproduction on dune messiah which is promising i guess.. better than leaving the story as is i suppose.

Yeah, Villeneuve has said things to the effect of how much more he cares about images and set design at the expense of story and dialogue.

Part 1 really seemed to tow the line and achieve both, this one was more like a Terrence Malick visual wet dream.

Still loved it but felt the second half especially was tailored a bit too much to normies to lock down Messiah.

[sonatine]

didnt love Dune 2.

didnt hate it. but it seemed to sacrifice a lot of the depth of the world and the characters.

everyone was simply much more interesting in the books, especially the emperor and feyd. the BBC dune adaptation really got feyd right, especially his relationship with vladimir.

but like, where is the spacing guild in all this? in the book, representatives of the guild are present with the emperor during the final showdown. and thats an incredibly important point because when paul threatens to obliterate the spice, the guild (through their spicey powers) recognize the truth of the threat. this basically explains how the means for a galactic jihad become available to paul.

anyway whatever. it could have been much, much worse. they started preproduction on dune messiah which is promising i guess.. better than leaving the story as is i suppose.

Yeah, Villeneuve has said things to the effect of how much more he cares about images and set design at the expense of story and dialogue.

Part 1 really seemed to tow the line and achieve both, this one was more like a Terrence Malick visual wet dream.

Still loved it but felt the second half especially was tailored a bit too much to normies to lock down Messiah.

thank you, this explains so, so much.

like honestly it makes sense now.

[Tellafriend]

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[lol wow]

dune 2 was gaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay i literally left work at 2 that friday got sushi with my gay wife we made a thing it waaaaaaaaaassssssssssss gaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyy

[lol wow]

also now that anti semitism is cool can we call it jewn 2

[lol wow]

also spent 26 dollars on twisters last night to own fell asleep 18 minutes in im gonna assume also gay as fuck

[Tellafriend]

also spent 26 dollars on twisters last night to own fell asleep 18 minutes in im gonna assume also gay as fuck

peak gey

[Daly]

The reason why star wars works is because its so simple. Space magic. Cool.

This book in movie form is just shoving one space magic concept after the next with no real foreshadowing. Its not nearly as complicated as it pretends to be but it comes off as one Deus ex machina after the next.

Ok the emperor stabbed them in the back

Ok the mom is space wizard with voice powers, oh and so is the son

Ok we have sand people

Now the sane people have 95% of their warrior population hiding in tbe other side of the plannet

Ok he is him.

Cool now we drink snake juice and we are now half brothers to all tbe bad guys

The list can and does just go on and on and on here

Im 99% sure it makes a lot more sense in the book. People talk about the story with such reverence Im perfectly willing to believe it. I just think it made for a shitty movie adaptation

[tigerpiper]

I saw most of Dune 2 on a plane ride recently. It was really dark (like cinemotagraphy) and mumbled dialogue. Didn't make it through it.

Also, I don't like going to the beach unless I can shower right after because the sand gets everywhere, and this reminded me of that so was uncomfortable.

[sonatine]

The reason why star wars works is because its so simple. Space magic. Cool.

This book in movie form is just shoving one space magic concept after the next with no real foreshadowing. Its not nearly as complicated as it pretends to be but it comes off as one Deus ex machina after the next.

Ok the emperor stabbed them in the back

Ok the mom is space wizard with voice powers, oh and so is the son

Ok we have sand people

Now the sane people have 95% of their warrior population hiding in tbe other side of the plannet

Ok he is him.

Cool now we drink snake juice and we are now half brothers to all tbe bad guys

The list can and does just go on and on and on here

Im 99% sure it makes a lot more sense in the book. People talk about the story with such reverence Im perfectly willing to believe it. I just think it made for a shitty movie adaptation

one of the charms of the book is that you really get a feel for the 'great houses', all these ancient bloodlines and cultures that are constantly engaged in this violent but civilized dance with each other.

also the stakes are higher because spice actually increases lifespans. like humans with steady access to spice can live for hundreds of years.

further more there are weird corners of the dune universe like the Bene Tleilax and the Ixians who are in this constant arms race with everyone and everything that isnt them, who become very important when paul (moreso his son) rise to power.

so in a very real way, the story of dune was never meant to be character driven but a story of ascending and descending powers driven by this one substance on this one planet that fueled it all / made it all possible.

eventually the story becomes about the survival of the known universe through all this chaos and potential ruin, and the sacrifices made to affect it.

and the movies are lovely but at no point did that sense of scale creep in for me. and it should have started to by now. maybe we get into it in dune messiah but to your point; how do we accomplish that in under 3 hours without feeling like we are just lifting plot points out of a hat and slapping them onto a storyboard?

by the by theres a BBC scifi series that captures this all pretty well so the notion that no ones come close to doing it (which i see bandied about a lot) is kinda ill informed.

[Jayjami]

Apparently the only purpose of making Dune 2 was so they could make Dune 3 (and more money of course). The whole movie was filler. Dune 1 was pretty good though.