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Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
This is unprecedented territory, and very hard to predict.

At the same time, we have a very polarizing Republican candidate who got voted out after 1 term, and is back as the candidate again. Also something we've never seen in our lifetime.
Well you are part right. There has been a similar precedent. Nixon was VP from 1952-1960 and effectively had the presidential election stolen in Chicago in 1960, that is almost universally agreed upon. Nixon became very bitter, much like Trump. He did something so incredibly stupid and ran for Governor of California. He was crushed, his career apparently washed up. Then he ran and won in 1968. It was a remarkable comeback, the press hated Nixon and made a mission to get him removed, much like Trump.

Trump is following a very similar path, sure its different but the fact is he is making a startling comeback. It's very Nixon like. Make no mistake, Nixon praised Trump in the early 80s. I am quite certain Trump remembers that.
Yes, the 1960 Presidential race was indeed stolen. Nobody talks about that anymore. I guess because it's been so long, most of the population was either not yet born or too young to care when it occurred.

There's no doubt it was stolen, actually. Between the dead people voting in Chicago and the ballot stuffing in Texas, Nixon was denied being the rightful winner. This is the only real stolen election in modern US history. The 2000 election (Bush/Gore) was not stolen, just amazingly down to a few hundred votes in Florida. The 2016 election (Hillary/Trump) was not stolen. The Russian influence thing was complete BS. The 2020 election (Biden/Trump) was not stolen. The vote counting was just weird due to the large number of mail-ins.

However, Nixon and Trump are not the same situation. Nixon ran in '60, got cheated out of the win, then ran again in '68 and won. Trump actually won, then lost, then became the candidate again, in 3 consecutive elections. That hasn't been seen before.

A new set of polls came out showing Kamala ahead as much as 6 points (!!) in Nevada, after Trump was crushing Biden there. That's a problem. Nevada has been a difficult state to predict, and often defies national trends, though. For example, Hillary greatly outperformed expectations in Nevada in 2016, and was one of the earliest states to yield results, due to early voting. This made it look almost certain that Trump was going to get crushed. However, it ended up as only one of two (at the time) swing states where she outperformed polls -- the other being Colorado, which is now solid blue.