***OFFICIAL RUSSIA/UKRAINE WAR*** thread

[Sanlmar]

OK oh, then I guess Putin is one of the good guys, then.

Such a moronic post.
I just can't imagine how sad of a life you have, if your goal every day is to trick people into thinking Putin isn't Evil.
People that are happy w/their life wouldn't do this. (They wouldn't be trolls either, so that applies to like 80 % of the people here.)

Whatever he is we are much much worse, period.
Do you understand we provoked this war? Do you?

We've spent billions since 2014 trying to get this war started.
We reneged on every agreement about NATO.

The Russians and Ukranians were getting to uppity with all the big churches and crap
so that had to be put down, again. Turn em against each other and pump in as many weapons as possible so they begin the great kill off of their most talented warriors. Then their surviving families can grow up impoverished and in broken homes for generations.
These are deep deep scars we are inflicting.

$750 million more approved today.
When they've bled each other to the max, the US corporations and billionaires are going to inflict shock therapy on Ukraine, again.
The deals are already being made, they're going to gut their labor laws and rob and enslave them.

This was Zalensky's plan from day one. Many Ukranian's own farmland, it's a strong part of their culture. Zalensky wants to strip them of their land and hand it to oligarchs and corporations on our dime plus interest.





Raytheon and all the other war profiteers are allowed to legally bribe our elected representatives.
You know this is a recipe for unnecessary war and conflict and you say nothing, why?

Maybe you're even more evil than Putin.

Mistakes happen in war.
Ooops the largest nuclear plant in Europe melts down in the bread basket of the world.

Oooops WW3 breaks out.

Raytheon, randomness of war, military industrial complex. Nobody is gonna argue with you except Druff.

Where we differ - Russia needs access to seaports for energy distribution. You get distracted by a lot of noise. It’s always energy. Always.

Walk with me for a moment….. If Russia won Ukraine (just saying) would Poland and Romania be next? Access to the sea again - especially Poland. That would just necessitate full blown US involvement so the US is critically involved in Ukraine to prevent a disastrous world war. I can’t give you odds of Poland and Romania being the next dominos but neither can the US. That scenario can’t come to pass.

I have zero faith in our diplomacy (there is none) and our military efficiency. We can drag shit out like no one. Perhaps dragging Ukraine out is the only play for us. If Russia looks like they are gonna lose Ukraine & lose face …. AND LOSE THERE ABILITY TO DISTRIBUTE THEIR ONLY ECONOMIC VIABILITY (oil) - they may threaten nukes. Better to just grind Ukraine out endlessly and wait and see. It’s what we have done since the 60’s. We don’t usually win but we have staying power.

Here’s a fun one if you are a semi serious person. In the larger scope of history, Russia needed to act on Ukraine now while their demographics still provided sufficient numbers of men young enough to fight. Their population is aging just like everyone else’s.

Half of all baby boomers are 66 in the US now. I find that so so important. It ain’t different anywhere else. No children and the boomers are aging out. I digress a little.

I heard something from a reporter in Ukraine. He claimed the Russian troops have almost no idea why they are there. That the troops believe they are fighting Nazis. I don’t believe almost anything I see on the subject of Ukraine in the media but I think this was an interesting and sad possibility.

Russia is there because of energy distribution. That’s it. Russian soldiers don’t know and maybe you didn’t either. You will never ever ever see any mention of energy on MSN nightly news when they talk about blonde Ukrainian babies suffering

Enjoy.