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    Quote Originally Posted by sevencard2003 View Post
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    Re-read my post. Numerous programs, paid for by the people of Canada, read taxes, are there to assist you from housing to education. Gambling is legal no matter the province. If that sounds like a dictatorship then you are getting your information from the wrong places.
    didnt u see all the videos posted on twitter by protestors of the cops in ottawa sending in horses to knock a disabled elderly clan mother of the mohawk tribe out of her scooter and send her to the hospital who was at the truckers protest? and about how they are seizing the bank accounts of the millions of people who donated to the protest?

    Good luck to you Tony. I hope you get staked as Bart promised and that you do well. There is nothing unethical about this. I'll be your next Twitter follower.

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    Quote Originally Posted by limitles View Post
    Dude stay off twitter. It's the new home of propaganda.
    This is solid advice.

    You have given yourself a permanent scar (racist hateful posts) on Twitter

    Your condition makes you less equipped to cipher out the signal to noise on Twitter
    There is mostly nonsense posted by people with agendas and misinformation. It’s generally a waste of time and effort to critically read the crap. It will not make you a positive and happy person. You will not be better informed. You know this already.

    You have other skills. The stereotype of individuals with Aspergers being persistent and detail oriented seems to run true with you and poker. You would do well with other jobs too if someone gave you a break.

    Everybody has some cross to bear and some gifts. Obviously you do too. It’s all part of the journey.

    Get off Twitter. Canadian truckers and all the noise has nothing to do with your life and will not make you happier and appealing to others. Be positive and healthy. Find a hobby that makes you smile and use that Twitter time to pursue it. Don’t let social media steal your time or happiness.

    Everyone roots for the underdog. We are attracted to happy and positive people. I’m rooting for you. It’s a reflex. Twitter is not gonna help you there. Nobody is posting sunsets and puppies.

    Hate Twitter and the asshat that started it if you wanna hate something.

    Todd has a friend on the spectrum that he has had on the radio and posts about on this forum. Master Scalir. I have been struck by the guys positive vibe. Coincidentally, he has no phone and sure as all shit doesn’t do social media.

    Todd and the Aspie crowd is an interesting rabbit hole but that is for another day.

    I rarely write positive stuff cause it’s less fun….. but if I can nudge you in a direction that makes you happier then I will have done one good thing today.

    Get off Twitter and smile

     
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    Hey Tony the one thing you should do is establish your heritage status.

    The Jay Treaty, signed in 1794 between Great Britain and the United States, provides that American Indians may travel freely across the international boundary. ... In order to qualify for these privileges, eligible persons must provide evidence of their American Indian background to at the port of entry.

    So entry into Canada is not at problem and if you exchange a sum of say fifty thousand American into Canadian you gain approximately $13,000.

    Living out of a suitcase/hotel and getting no help for your problems is no way to go.

    The average white guy health care benefits include some of the following for simple annual premiums and it extends well beyond if you have native American blood. A simple dna test can settle that

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    We have everything you do down there and less, as in crime, racism etc.

    And it never hurts to play live poker at a home casino where you get to know your competitors.

    BTW tell Hanson to donate the money he was going to stake you for as a gift and he can write it off and feel better about himself.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sanlmar View Post
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    Dude stay off twitter. It's the new home of propaganda.
    This is solid advice.

    You have given yourself a permanent scar (racist hateful posts) on Twitter

    Your condition makes you less equipped to cipher out the signal to noise on Twitter
    There is mostly nonsense posted by people with agendas and misinformation. It’s generally a waste of time and effort to critically read the crap. It will not make you a positive and happy person. You will not be better informed. You know this already.

    You have other skills. The stereotype of individuals with Aspergers being persistent and detail oriented seems to run true with you and poker. You would do well with other jobs too if someone gave you a break.

    Everybody has some cross to bear and some gifts. Obviously you do too. It’s all part of the journey.

    Get off Twitter. Canadian truckers and all the noise has nothing to do with your life and will not make you happier and appealing to others. Be positive and healthy. Find a hobby that makes you smile and use that Twitter time to pursue it. Don’t let social media steal your time or happiness.

    Everyone roots for the underdog. We are attracted to happy and positive people. I’m rooting for you. It’s a reflex. Twitter is not gonna help you there. Nobody is posting sunsets and puppies.

    Hate Twitter and the asshat that started it if you wanna hate something.

    Todd has a friend on the spectrum that he has had on the radio and posts about on this forum. Master Scalir. I have been struck by the guys positive vibe. Coincidentally, he has no phone andsure as all shit doesn’t do social media.

    Todd and the Aspie crowd is an interesting rabbit hole but that is for another day.

    I rarely write positive stuff cause it’s less fun….. but if I can nudge you in a direction that makes you happier then I will have done one good thing today.

    Get off Twitter and smile
    I agree with everything you said, but iirc, I’m pretty sure Ken was the focus of a news article about the last users of MySpace and would take a bus down to the library to keep up his MySpace page a decade after everyone had quit it and had some absurd amount of friends.

    MySpace was gentler times and about music and interests, and he probably actually considers those people friends, so barely even social media like today’s toxic angry tone. Ken has always been a ray of sunshine, so I’d like to think he skips out on modern social media, but Druff would have to answer that.

    Here is the article. Ken in The Guardian. Got to love the guy.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.the...social-network

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by sevencard2003 View Post
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    Another poster suggested you have Indigenous status. If so you should consider relocating to Canada where programs aimed at improving you're lot in life are numerous, especially in Saskatchewan.
    my father died when i was 1, and my grandmother on my dads side whose now dead never would tell my mother who his real father was. so there is no way to prove it. also canada would be a terrible place to be now, theres a dictator running it exactly like Hitler.
    Tony, you were born in Canada. There should be a birth certificate.
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    Tony, this thread was made yesterday, so you easily found it while it's still relevant. I didn't inform you directly because I had assumed you were monitoring that Twitter thread by Bart, where I posted this link.

    The biggest piece of advice I'd give you is just to watch what you say and write. I'm not going to debate any of your views with which I disagree, because that's pointless. However, if you have any thoughts which are denigrating women or any particular race, don't post them. If you have any thoughts regarding how you'd like to burn a place down or see Democrats die, don't post them. Having bad thoughts and posting/saying them are two very different things. It's the latter which really turns certain people off to you.

    I have always been in the "Tony is actually harmless" camp, which is why I stated that I supported Bart staking you.

    It is actually admirable that you prefer to support yourself rather than get on SSI or some other form of assistance.

    As Sanlmar said, everyone loves an underdog. If you were just a weird guy with Asperger's who was trying to make a living from poker, everyone would root for you -- even many on the left. It has been your lack of filter on social media (and sometimes in person) which has upset some people. You haven't upset me because I always try to look past the rhetoric and see the real person behind it.

    Jennifer Newell isn't a bad person. I don't agree with any of her politics, and I think she judges people too quickly who think differently than she does, but overall she's an ethical person who is trying to do what she thinks is right. If she did have a hand in reporting you, it was because she was actually worried you were a danger to others. Clearly she doesn't like you, and you don't like her, and that's fine. However, I don't think she's doing this from a place of hatred, but rather just believes that you're a bad/dangerous person.

    Anyway, I encourage you to accept the stake from Bart. In fact, seeing you play on stream might increase people's understanding of you, and maybe some of your critics will change their minds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Tony, this thread was made yesterday, so you easily found it while it's still relevant. I didn't inform you directly because I had assumed you were monitoring that Twitter thread by Bart, where I posted this link.

    The biggest piece of advice I'd give you is just to watch what you say and write. I'm not going to debate any of your views with which I disagree, because tha'ts pointless. However, if you have any thoughts which are denigrating women or any particular race, don't post them. If you have any thoughts regarding how you'd like to burn a place down or see Democrats die, don't post them. Having bad thoughts and posting/saying them are two very different things. It's the latter which really turns certain people off to you.

    I have always been in the "Tony is actually harmless" camp, which is why I stated that I supported Bart staking you.

    It is actually admirable that you prefer to support yourself rather than get on SSI or some other form of assistance.

    As Sanlmar said, everyone loves and underdog. If you were just a weird guy with Asperger's who was trying to make a living from poker, everyone would root for you -- even many on the left. It has been your lack of filter on social media (and sometimes in person) which has upset some people. You haven't upset me because I always try to look past the rhetoric and see the real person behind it.

    Jennifer Newell isn't a bad person. I don't agree with any of her politics, and I think she judges people too quickly who think differently than she does, but overall she's an ethical person who is trying to do what she thinks is right. If she did have a hand in reporting you, it was because she was actually worried you were a danger to others. Clearly she doesn't like you, and you don't like her, and that's fine. However, I don't think she's doing this from a place of hatred, but rather just believes that you're a bad/dangerous person.

    Anyway, I encourage you to accept the stake from Bart. In fact, seeing you play on stream might increase people's understanding of you, and maybe some of your critics will change their minds.
    Lol autism.

    Do this guy a favor and ban him now, your recent history of hand holding these drooling lunatics has not been good, even when they're real-life friends.

     
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    Yeah Todd is 100% spot on with this one. I think Tony is harmless even though he probably thinks of me as a blood sucking communist lib.

    I truly hope that Tony can get to the area and we can make this happen. I intend to analyze his play as straight as I would with any other student. No trolling 100% serious. I also understand that Tony has said some outrageous things on Twitter that would make people think that he isn’t deserving of a stake. But I look at him as a long time grinder that could actually use a few pointers that could help his win rate, and if he was willing to listen, I certainly have some advice for him in terms of full time poker playing and money management.

    One of the first things I think he should stop doing is traveling so much. He seems to spend a lot on air B and B and motels, Lyfts/Ubers and flights. I think he needs to find one area for a while (hopefully without access to vices like video blackjack) and grind. Treat it like a job and build up his bankroll so that he will have the freedom to live an eventful life outside of gambling professionally. No one should feel like they are always under pressure and the slave to their occupation.

     
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    That Marxist Hanson Kid looking out for the proletariat.

    I’m now a fan and comrade.

    Don’t exploit Tony for capitalism.

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    I did a segment about this on radio, starting from the 1:21:49 mark.

    https://pokerfraudalert.com/forum/sh...2-Just-Kidding

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    Tony doesn't know much about his Canadian Indian heritage so I'm trying to untangle it. So far I've found newpaper articles of his father's death in 1970 when Tony was just 1 year old. I couldn't get the news item into just one screenshot. Tony's father was born Stanley William Bigcharles on 28 May 1948 at Maple Ridge, British Columbia and died at Lake Cowichan, British Columbia on 9 Apr 1970. Stanley's parents have yet to be determined.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    Tony doesn't know much about his Canadian Indian heritage so I'm trying to untangle it. So far I've found newpaper articles of his father's death in 1970 when Tony was just 1 year old. I couldn't get the news item into just one screenshot. Tony's father was born Stanley William Bigcharles on 28 May 1948 at Maple Ridge, British Columbia and died at Lake Cowichan, British Columbia on 9 Apr 1970. Stanley's parents have yet to be determined.
    Wow, nice going. I don't want to push anything on Tony but regaining his status it could open up many opportunities on this side of the border at least. Vancouver Island is an added bonus.
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    Quote Originally Posted by limitles View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    Tony doesn't know much about his Canadian Indian heritage so I'm trying to untangle it. So far I've found newpaper articles of his father's death in 1970 when Tony was just 1 year old. I couldn't get the news item into just one screenshot. Tony's father was born Stanley William Bigcharles on 28 May 1948 at Maple Ridge, British Columbia and died at Lake Cowichan, British Columbia on 9 Apr 1970. Stanley's parents have yet to be determined.
    Wow, nice going. I don't want to push anything on Tony but regaining his status it could open up many opportunities on this side of the border at least. Vancouver Island is an added bonus.

    You mean like free Totem Poles?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cerveza Fria View Post
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    Wow, nice going. I don't want to push anything on Tony but regaining his status it could open up many opportunities on this side of the border at least. Vancouver Island is an added bonus.

    You mean like free Totem Poles?
    You wouldn't have the guts to say that up here, but your safe in your Mom's house anyway, right Ricky?

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    "The founding fathers did not like the idea of the tyranny of the majority ruling the country"
    Dan Druff

    “I don't know what weapons World War III will be fought with, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones.”
    Albert Einstein

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    Quote Originally Posted by limitles View Post
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    You mean like free Totem Poles?
    You wouldn't have the guts to say that up here, but your safe in your Mom's house anyway, right Ricky?

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    1) Who the hell wants to go to Canada right now? Nobody, it's too fucking cold.

    2) Nobody wants to see pictures of your girlfriend.

     
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    It’s Family Day in Canada - in case you guys are confused

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sanlmar View Post
    It’s Family Day in Canada - in case you guys are confused
    C'est vrai. And we must comply if employed by government.

     
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    Good luck Tony deep down a nice and honest guy.

     
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    Tony

    Listen to this podcast when you get a chance. It’s about Mickey Crimm and Bob Dancer

    Google: Risk of Ruin Two Hustlers podcast

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    I know nothing about advantage play life and psychology. Reminds me of Druff’s life approach too

    I absolutely loved how candid and honest Mickey is here. He makes for a great great story

     
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