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And that conjecture was thoroughly investigated by the Boston Globe and found to be not supported by the evidence.

Ethnicity not a factor in Elizabeth Warren’s rise in law
https://www.bostonglobe.com/news/nat...O0K/story.html

In the most exhaustive review undertaken of Elizabeth Warren’s professional history, the Globe found clear evidence, in documents and interviews, that her claim to Native American ethnicity was never considered by the Harvard Law faculty, which voted resoundingly to hire her, or by those who hired her to four prior positions at other law schools. At every step of her remarkable rise in the legal profession, the people responsible for hiring her saw her as a white woman.

The Globe examined hundreds of documents, many of them never before available, and reached out to all 52 of the law professors who are still living and were eligible to be in that Pound Hall room at Harvard Law School. Some are Warren’s allies. Others are not. Thirty-one agreed to talk to the Globe — including the law professor who was, at the time, in charge of recruiting minority faculty. Most said they were unaware of her claims to Native American heritage and all but one of the 31 said those claims were not discussed as part of her hire. One professor told the Globe he is unsure whether her heritage came up, but is certain that, if it did, it had no bearing on his vote on Warren’s appointment.
Bottom line: She never used her Native American heritage to further her career.
You keep repeating the same thing over and over, ignoring the point we are raising.

We are past the point of claiming that she got hired by claiming she was Native American. I'm willing to concede that likely didn't happen.

So stop repeating that same response over and over.

My problem is that AFTER she was tenured at Harvard, she officially changed her ethnicity there. This had to be for "minority cred" or some sort of perceived gain. Presumably she felt that being a minority professor at Harvard would give her more credibility.

That was dishonest and exploitative, no matter which way you try to slice it.
Cred with whom??? She was already tenured at Harvard before changing her ethnicity. And we’re talking *Harvard* Law School, a top tier school. And by that point, and given her specialty (bankruptcy law), her colleagues within the discipline both at Harvard and elsewhere wouldn’t have cared what her reported ethnicity was. This wasn’t like the case of that white woman who faked being Black in order to enhance her cred within the Black community *and* in her racially-focused career.

If Warren had specialized in law directly related to Native American issues, and used her NA heritage as a flag to wave to enhance her cred on the matter, then her designated heritage would matter to *her* career. But she didn’t. So her NA designation had no meaningful impact on either her career or her “cred”.

But, and I say this again having worked in academia, the *administration* almost surely used her NA designation in boosting its faculty’s diversity-related reporting. Because college administrators are slippery that way. To them, it probably looked like a lost opportunity to not try to benefit, diversity metric-wise, from free-riding on an existing faculty member’s ethnic ID change when noone there had made any special effort to make the faculty more ethnically diverse. Because college admins care about such things given the politics of faculty diversity within the American university system.

But if you have some idea of whom Warren was trying to improve her “cred” with other than who I discuss her that would enhance her academic career, please be specific.