**OFFICIAL Donald J. Trump vs. Joseph (Joe) R. Biden Thread - 2020 Presidential Election**

[Dan Druff]

It's time to fire Parscale.

Massive bedshit. He's weakly denying that the Tiktok and Kpop communities ruined the Tulsa event, but it's clear that's exactly what happened.

Leftists and online trolls doing a victory lap, thinking they somehow impacted rally attendance, don't know what they're talking about or how our rallies work. Registering for a rally means you've RSVPed with a cell phone number and we constantly weed out bogus numbers, as we did with tens of thousands at the Tulsa rally, in calculating our possible attendee pool. These phony ticket requests never factor into our thinking.

Read again what he said there. He is saying that they "weed out bogus numbers". How? Notice he didn't say that they verify all phone numbers provided -- only that they weed out bogus ones. This probably means that if you enter a phone number like (123) 456-7890, it won't accept it. However, it probably took any phone number which met basic formatting requirements, without verifying.

I'm hearing rumors that they didn't even verify e-mail, which is especially LOL if true.

When it comes to things like these, you need to remember what the great Jeff Bezos once said about Amazon:

"For every extra click it takes to navigate the site, sales go down by 15%."

Basically he was saying that simplicity and ease-of-use are huge when it comes to e-commerce, and he's correct. But this can also be applied to trolling. With every extra level of security -- even simple ones -- the number of bad actors falls off exponentially.

So say that they had an e-mail requirement, and did some very basic disallowing of well-known disposable e-mail services. While it's not difficult to create a few extra e-mail addresses, this already makes it much tougher for individuals to create 500 ticket requests. Additionally, some of the less dedicated people won't even bother once they see there's e-mail verification.

Phone number verification via SMS (text) is even better. Yes, there are ways to get throwaway numbers, but most people don't know how to do that, and again, this will weed out people who want to make 500 requests.

They also could have done credit card verification. Something like a $1 authorization (not charge), and only issued up to 4 tickets per credit card. Something like that.

Then they also could have done a filter using IP address, where anyone requesting more than X number of tickets from the same IP gets an error message.

They could also have disallowed all requests from foreign IPs, or have only required the $1 credit card auth for those with IPs resolving to more than X number of miles from Tulsa.

They also should have issued "wait list" tickets, and told everyone to show up 60 minutes early, or risk their seats being given away.

Anyway, any of the above would have really stopped most of this shit in its tracks. You don't need to stop 100% of the people attempting to sign up bogus ticket requests -- you just have to stop most of them.

The fact that they really believed the 800,000 signups were real, without checking the data, was beyond stupid.

[Walter Sobchak]

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Even Jared?

If he has a falling out with Orange Cuck and has to move out of the White House, how will Ivanka keep fucking both of them?

[Walter Sobchak]

It's time to fire Parscale.

Massive bedshit. He's weakly denying that the Tiktok and Kpop communities ruined the Tulsa event, but it's clear that's exactly what happened.

Leftists and online trolls doing a victory lap, thinking they somehow impacted rally attendance, don't know what they're talking about or how our rallies work. Registering for a rally means you've RSVPed with a cell phone number and we constantly weed out bogus numbers, as we did with tens of thousands at the Tulsa rally, in calculating our possible attendee pool. These phony ticket requests never factor into our thinking.

Read again what he said there. He is saying that they "weed out bogus numbers". How? Notice he didn't say that they verify all phone numbers provided -- only that they weed out bogus ones. This probably means that if you enter a phone number like (123) 456-7890, it won't accept it. However, it probably took any phone number which met basic formatting requirements, without verifying.

I'm hearing rumors that they didn't even verify e-mail, which is especially LOL if true.

When it comes to things like these, you need to remember what the great Jeff Bezos once said about Amazon:

"For every extra click it takes to navigate the site, sales go down by 15%."

Basically he was saying that simplicity and ease-of-use are huge when it comes to e-commerce, and he's correct. But this can also be applied to trolling. With every extra level of security -- even simple ones -- the number of bad actors falls off exponentially.

So say that they had an e-mail requirement, and did some very basic disallowing of well-known disposable e-mail services. While it's not difficult to create a few extra e-mail addresses, this already makes it much tougher for individuals to create 500 ticket requests. Additionally, some of the less dedicated people won't even bother once they see there's e-mail verification.

Phone number verification via SMS (text) is even better. Yes, there are ways to get throwaway numbers, but most people don't know how to do that, and again, this will weed out people who want to make 500 requests.

They also could have done credit card verification. Something like a $1 authorization (not charge), and only issued up to 4 tickets per credit card. Something like that.

Then they also could have done a filter using IP address, where anyone requesting more than X number of tickets from the same IP gets an error message.

They could also have disallowed all requests from foreign IPs, or have only required the $1 credit card auth for those with IPs resolving to more than X number of miles from Tulsa.

They also should have issued "wait list" tickets, and told everyone to show up 60 minutes early, or risk their seats being given away.

Anyway, any of the above would have really stopped most of this shit in its tracks. You don't need to stop 100% of the people attempting to sign up bogus ticket requests -- you just have to stop most of them.

The fact that they really believed the 800,000 signups were real, without checking the data, was beyond stupid.

It wasn't only them that caused the low turnout. If anybody except the most hardcore cultists wanted to attend, they'd have been let in once the campaign staff saw it was mostly empty. They'd have gone to the "overflow stage" (LOL) and told people it's your lucky day you get to move inside. But nobody was there. And "Antifa" wasn't blocking jack shit, it's just that nobody showed up.

Parscale is lucky to have these DickTock clowns to blame instead of acknowledging the truth, which is that nobody wanted to go, even in deep red Oklahoma.

[Dan Druff]

How can you say nobody wanted to go? Apparently people attempted to get tickets there and were shut out because the kiddies reserved a ton of tickets in order to fuck up the event.

Parscale actually isn't lucky at all. This is a huge embarrassment in several ways.

It's very likely that legit would-be attendees didn't want "overflow", and closed the browser once they saw they couldn't get tickets to the real deal.

[Dan Druff]

By the way, I'm not even mad at the kids who did this (even though it was a 51-year-old grandma who organized the whole thing originally).

Teens are gonna teen. They love to create mischief and chaos. Lord knows I did my share of that in the 80s.

It's Brad Parscale who is mostly to blame here.

[Walter Sobchak]

By the way, I'm not even mad at the kids who did this (even though it was a 51-year-old grandma who organized the whole thing originally).

Teens are gonna teen. They love to create mischief and chaos. Lord knows I did my share of that in the 80s.

It's Brad Parscale who is mostly to blame here.

Self-recognition rep +1

[Walter Sobchak]

How can you say nobody wanted to go? Apparently people attempted to get tickets there and were shut out because the kiddies reserved a ton of tickets in order to fuck up the event.

Parscale actually isn't lucky at all. This is a huge embarrassment in several ways.

It's very likely that legit would-be attendees didn't want "overflow", and closed the browser once they saw they couldn't get tickets to the real deal.

Trump was going to speak at the overflow stage after the arena. NOBODY who "couldn't get tickets" to the arena showed up to still see him at the overflow stage? Bullshit. He cancelled after seeing that nobody showed up and he was embarrassed.

But yeah, a bunch of kids kept everyone away.

[blake]

you guys are crazy if you think trump's supporters aren't as enthusiastic about him as 2016.

[blake]

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ok so trump's given up on getting the black vote entirely and is tripling down on the nascar crowd. hopefully, this ends the "trump's gonna get a big chunk of the black vote" talk.

he also just said obama committed treason, which is punishable by death.

[nightmarefish]

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ok so trump's given up on getting the black vote entirely and is tripling down on the nascar crowd. hopefully, this ends the "trump's gonna get a big chunk of the black vote" talk.

he also just said obama committed treason, which is punishable by death.

Big tough guy hitting someone from behind like that.

Just a reminder, white people are the racists and the problem...........

[blake]

honestly, getting white people outraged again might be genius politics.

[Sanlmar]

By the way, I'm not even mad at the kids who did this (even though it was a 51-year-old grandma who organized the whole thing originally).

Teens are gonna teen. They love to create mischief and chaos. Lord knows I did my share of that in the 80s.

It's Brad Parscale who is mostly to blame here.

As I wrote last week, Brad is just a guy who suffers from the Peter Principal. He was promoted to his level of incompetence. This is an organizational problem. Identifying talent, yada, yada.

Consider this: Trump is running unopposed and he’s losing. So yeah, blaming kids is lazy parochial politics. You didn’t fall victim to this urge. That’s growth, Druff

[Sanlmar]

I took some of our Biden profit and bet Demmings for VP @ +450.

She’d hold her own heads up against Pence.

She ain’t the pretty white-looking sort like Kamala Harris.

Got mixed feelings. What ya think?

[Walter Sobchak]

you guys are crazy if you think trump's supporters aren't as enthusiastic about him as 2016.

Then Trump's closest advisers are crazy, because they are genuinely worried.

[big dick]

"Donald Trump has been the worst president this country has ever had. And I don't say that hyperbolically. He is. But he is a consequential president. And he has brought this country in three short years to a place of weakness that is simply unimaginable if you were pondering where we are today from the day where Barack Obama left office. And there were a lot of us on that day who were deeply skeptical and very worried about what a Trump presidency would be. But this is a moment of unparalleled national humiliation, of weakness.

"When you listen to the President, these are the musings of an imbecile. An idiot. And I don't use those words to name call. I use them because they are the precise words of the English language to describe his behavior. His comportment. His actions. We've never seen a level of incompetence, a level of ineptitude so staggering on a daily basis by anybody in the history of the country whose ever been charged with substantial responsibilities.

"It's just astonishing that this man is president of the United States. The man, the con man, from New York City. Many bankruptcies, failed businesses, a reality show, that branded him as something that he never was. A successful businessman. Well, he's the President of the United States now, and the man who said he would make the country great again. And he's brought death, suffering, and economic collapse on truly an epic scale. And let's be clear. This isn't happening in every country around the world. This place. Our place. Our home. Our country. The United States. We are the epicenter. We are the place where you're the most likely to die from this disease. We're the ones with the most shattered economy. And we are because of the fool that sits in the Oval Office behind the Resolute Desk."

The words of Republican Steve Schmidt

[Walter Sobchak]

"Donald Trump has been the worst president this country has ever had. And I don't say that hyperbolically. He is. But he is a consequential president. And he has brought this country in three short years to a place of weakness that is simply unimaginable if you were pondering where we are today from the day where Barack Obama left office. And there were a lot of us on that day who were deeply skeptical and very worried about what a Trump presidency would be. But this is a moment of unparalleled national humiliation, of weakness.

"When you listen to the President, these are the musings of an imbecile. An idiot. And I don't use those words to name call. I use them because they are the precise words of the English language to describe his behavior. His comportment. His actions. We've never seen a level of incompetence, a level of ineptitude so staggering on a daily basis by anybody in the history of the country whose ever been charged with substantial responsibilities.

"It's just astonishing that this man is president of the United States. The man, the con man, from New York City. Many bankruptcies, failed businesses, a reality show, that branded him as something that he never was. A successful businessman. Well, he's the President of the United States now, and the man who said he would make the country great again. And he's brought death, suffering, and economic collapse on truly an epic scale. And let's be clear. This isn't happening in every country around the world. This place. Our place. Our home. Our country. The United States. We are the epicenter. We are the place where you're the most likely to die from this disease. We're the ones with the most shattered economy. And we are because of the fool that sits in the Oval Office behind the Resolute Desk."

The words of Republican Steve Schmidt

It truly is unfathomable how much damage he's done.

[big dick]

It really is.

I knew he would suck but I never thought he would be this bad.

[mulva]

"Donald Trump has been the worst president this country has ever had. And I don't say that hyperbolically. He is. But he is a consequential president. And he has brought this country in three short years to a place of weakness that is simply unimaginable if you were pondering where we are today from the day where Barack Obama left office. And there were a lot of us on that day who were deeply skeptical and very worried about what a Trump presidency would be. But this is a moment of unparalleled national humiliation, of weakness.

"When you listen to the President, these are the musings of an imbecile. An idiot. And I don't use those words to name call. I use them because they are the precise words of the English language to describe his behavior. His comportment. His actions. We've never seen a level of incompetence, a level of ineptitude so staggering on a daily basis by anybody in the history of the country whose ever been charged with substantial responsibilities.

"It's just astonishing that this man is president of the United States. The man, the con man, from New York City. Many bankruptcies, failed businesses, a reality show, that branded him as something that he never was. A successful businessman. Well, he's the President of the United States now, and the man who said he would make the country great again. And he's brought death, suffering, and economic collapse on truly an epic scale. And let's be clear. This isn't happening in every country around the world. This place. Our place. Our home. Our country. The United States. We are the epicenter. We are the place where you're the most likely to die from this disease. We're the ones with the most shattered economy. And we are because of the fool that sits in the Oval Office behind the Resolute Desk."

The words of Republican Steve Schmidt

500 words of absolute bs saying nothing

[Dan Druff]

How did he "bring death and economic suffering"?

Do you guys really believe we wouldn't have death and economic suffering from coronavirus if a Democrat were President? How? Tell me a single prominent Democrat with an early plan regarding coronavirus which would have saved lives.

Let's be real here.

[Walter Sobchak]

How did he "bring death and economic suffering"?

Do you guys really believe we wouldn't have death and economic suffering from coronavirus if a Democrat were President? How? Tell me a single prominent Democrat with an early plan regarding coronavirus which would have saved lives.

Let's be real here.

He made it worse by not listening to the scientists, telling people it was no big deal, promoting unproven and dangerous "treatments," reducing preparedness before it happened and bungling simple things like testing and PPE, even interfering with state efforts if the governor didn't sniff his balls closely enough.

He didn't cause it but he made it demonstrably worse.

Also he made America the laughingstock of the world.

:joker