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    biden in 2006- " i voted for 700 miles of a fence"..."lemme tell ya, we can build a fence 40 stories high"..

    this is the turd you're betting on


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    Johnny Manziel will be the 1st pick in the draft. I truly believe not only will Johnny Manziel be rookie of the year, quite possibly he will be MVP as his style will shock defensive coordinators. Manziel may only be 6 feet tall, but he has size 15 feet. And he has HUGE hands. I know some NFL scouts so I know what I am talking about.



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    Could Biden Flip Texas (or Georgia)? Can Democrats win Back the Sun Belt





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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by gimmick View Post
    Of course the study is a week old and apparently every article about it butchers it even more.

    They used this model...

    https://covid19.healthdata.org/unite...aths&tab=trend

    ...the best case scenario today for Feb 1st is 305k and the worst case is 622k.

    The 380k referred in the study is the average of the current projection from a week ago. Now it's 399k.
    First and foremost, there needs to be a sensible and uniform way to define COVID deaths.

    In my county, a 37-year-old drug addict overdosed, was found to have COVID, and was listed as a COVID death.

    In nursing homes, where COVID has killed a ton, there are a lot of ancient people in really terrible shape where even a fairly minor illness could kill them. Thus, even if COVID was the breaking point which put them in the ground, it's questionable whether that should be counted. Note that we had 80,000 flu deaths in the 2017-18 season in the US (about a third of reported COVID US deaths in 2020), but nobody panicked because it was generally understood that you weren't in much danger if you weren't very old, very young, or already in bad health.

    I'm not comparing COVID to the flu, but we need to get real regarding accurately reporting death stats, and breaking it down into categories so people know their real risk of death.
    Really. One whole drug addict. That's horrendous. So far pretty much every even remotely reputable study has come to the same conclusion. Covid stats are biased to show less cases and deaths.

    Covid deaths are counted using the same method as every other cause of death. This way we have some idea about relative severity of health issues that result in death.

    There are plenty of studies already breaking Covid deaths into categories. I have no idea what reporting is done in this area. I have no problem finding information on this.

    Oh also if the 305k number seemed too high that's because it's only the lower bound of their most optimistic simulation. They run and update 3 different simulations based on past data. They use variables such as social distancing based on cellphone data, mask usage and regulations among others.

    Their most optimistic simulation is based on reaching universal mask usage that they define as 95%. Their most pessimistic simulation is based on lowering regulations. In the middle is their projection based on past data and handful of other assumptions. I don't care enough to find out specifics, but considering their projection for average result for Feb 1st went up 20k in about a week i'm guessing it gives a lot of weight to last 2 weeks of data. They have now processed Oct 19th so you can expect their projection go up a lot, if you know what happened to your trajectory since then.

    I don't think it's remarkably accurate. Likely somewhat helpful. I just found it amusing it lined up with my own guesstimate for about a day or two. Why i don't think it's accurate is because they miss the previous data from almost entire flu season. They have almost no data from starting point of high cases with cold weather. That transition didn't really happen last time deaths peaked. And few other things, but there's really no point in listing them all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Anyway, please let me know your official position on road blocking. Is unintentional road blocking bad, but intentional road blocking is good? I'm so confused!!
    is this good or bad? outright! in beverly hills. was druff here?

    https://twitter.com/dbongino/status/1322715739464368130

    also a group of trumper trucks surrounded a biden bus on I-35 between san antonio and austin. trumpers filled all lanes and slowed to 20 mph and a car without a trump flag was side swiped/pushed around by a trump truck.
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    on law enforcement in general

    how many groups of right wingers have had members arrested for plotting violence in the last two months? off the top of my head----2

    same question for antifa cells or similar? zero

    probability that FBI is not inside antifa. zero

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    Quote Originally Posted by duped_samaritan View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Fauci also said we shouldn't wear masks because they're useless, then about-faced on it, and admitted he was lying for the good of healthcare workers. Yikes indeed.
    From the same March 8, 60 minutes interview where Fauci discouraged people from wearing masks:

    "But there is another risk to healthy people buying disposable masks as a precaution. The price of face masks is surging, and Prestige Ameritech, the nation's largest surgical mask manufacturer, is now struggling to keep up with the increased demand.

    It could lead to a shortage of masks for the people who really need it
    ,"



    Am I totally missing something and Fauci actually did lie in another interview and later admit he was lying for the good of healthcare workers? Or are you spreading misinformation about a health expert during a pandemic because he criticized Trump.
    Listen up Jussie, Fauci is a sociopathic attention whore who just spreads fear and never presents evidence or data. Seriously, look at his statements. At all times it’s just general scaremongering and no actual analysis of hard data or evidence.

    Fauci sucks and he admitted he lied about the masks. How many lives did Fauci cost by not telling people to at least use some kind of covering even if it wasn’t medical grade? Or maybe it’s just that it’s all bullshit and masks don’t work at all. Who knows!!!! What a clown this Fauci guy has been from the beginning and now he’s crying like a bitch to the media cause Trump benched his sorry ass.

    Listen Jussie, Fuck Fauci, this is MAGA country!!!!!!

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    https://twitter.com/ScottPresler/status/1322703935262625792

     
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    Pity for trump that 92 million have already voted already so he's more or less wasting his time doing rallies + the fat fuck is adding to the spread of the virus

    funny he tells all the trumptards to wait to vote until Nov 3rd.

    Why the fuck would you ever not bank votes?

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    Quote Originally Posted by big dick View Post
    Pity for trump that 92 million have already voted already so he's more or less wasting his time doing rallies + the fat fuck is adding to the spread of the virus

    funny he tells all the trumptards to wait to vote until Nov 3rd.

    Why the fuck would you ever not bank votes?
    To skew both the exit polls and in-person voting towards Trump for the election reporting optics for that day. Why? Also, because most states, Florida being a notable exception, wait until AFTER Election Day to count the mailed-in votes. That’s why Trump is pushing the lie that votes not COUNTED by Election Day are invalid and should not be counted even if the state received them beforehand.
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    I actually hope this [second impeachment] succeeds, because I want Trump put down politically like a sick, 14-year-old dog. ... I don't want him complicating the 2024 primary season. I just want him done.
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    Were Republicans cowardly or unethical not to go along with [convicting Trump in the second impeachment Senate trial]? No. The smart move was to reject it.

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    First time in 15 years I’ve ignored anyone mumbles. It took me a few minutes to figure out how to.

    The length of my ignoring you is either a few days or until after 2024.

    Your crime.

    Posting 1000 obscure left wing YouTubes. Talking politics every day for 4 years in every thread.

    Yet I “dragged my feet too long to get absentee ballot and won’t make it home in time to vote” = ceremonial ban. Can we trade you and the truck for gimmick and salty aus? They’d be registered. You’re like a highly political college kid who doesn’t vote. You’re over 60.

    It’s not personal. How can I not ignore the guy who is all about politics yet won’t be voting in first election Texas is even somewhat relevant?

    You are number one on Trump is the devil poster list, yet you can’t vote? Unacceptable. I ignore you. You’re old enough to know better.


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    Quote Originally Posted by BCR View Post
    First time in 15 years I’ve ignored anyone mumbles. It took me a few minutes to figure out how to.

    The length of my ignoring you is either a few days or until after 2024.

    Your crime.

    Posting 1000 obscure left wing YouTubes. Talking politics every day for 4 years in every thread.

    Yet I “dragged my feet too long to get absentee ballot and won’t make it home in time to vote” = ceremonial ban. Can we trade you and the truck for gimmick and salty aus? They’d be registered. You’re like a highly political college kid who doesn’t vote. You’re over 60.

    It’s not personal. How can I not ignore the guy who is all about politics yet won’t be voting in first election Texas is even somewhat relevant?

    You are number one on Trump is the devil poster list, yet you can’t vote? Unacceptable. I ignore you. You’re old enough to know better.


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    Odd that you need to announce your decision as if it will affect anyone in anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BCR View Post
    First time in 15 years I’ve ignored anyone mumbles. It took me a few minutes to figure out how to.

    The length of my ignoring you is either a few days or until after 2024.

    Your crime.

    Posting 1000 obscure left wing YouTubes. Talking politics every day for 4 years in every thread.

    Yet I “dragged my feet too long to get absentee ballot and won’t make it home in time to vote” = ceremonial ban. Can we trade you and the truck for gimmick and salty aus? They’d be registered. You’re like a highly political college kid who doesn’t vote. You’re over 60.

    It’s not personal. How can I not ignore the guy who is all about politics yet won’t be voting in first election Texas is even somewhat relevant?

    You are number one on Trump is the devil poster list, yet you can’t vote? Unacceptable. I ignore you. You’re old enough to know better.


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    Mildly related my voting history is that when i was younger i voted for the socialist party on the national level when i knew it wouldn't matter. These weren't Bernie social democrat types. Old school soviet totalitarianism type. Still working class, but if i thought they had any change of getting elected i wouldn't help them.

    When it came to local elections i voted a candidate twice from a far right nationalist party. Old friend of mine that ran as an independent on their list. A union rep, old boxer and lead singer of a punk band. As a half joke he ran on the only party's list that would accept him and got elected. I supported that because i appreciate friendship and loyalty over any tribal bullshit. If you're willing to fight for me in a very literal sense, i don't really care what we disagree about.

    The last presidential election we had that mattered was between a center right-wing opponent vs a gay green party nominee with 20 years younger Latin lover. I didn't bother to vote because i didn't see a scenario where it was a less than a 10 point loss. I think the green party guy lost with over 20 points. We had the a female president before that, but were not that liberal yet to go for gay president.

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    Quote Originally Posted by limitles View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by BCR View Post
    First time in 15 years I’ve ignored anyone mumbles. It took me a few minutes to figure out how to.

    The length of my ignoring you is either a few days or until after 2024.

    Your crime.

    Posting 1000 obscure left wing YouTubes. Talking politics every day for 4 years in every thread.

    Yet I “dragged my feet too long to get absentee ballot and won’t make it home in time to vote” = ceremonial ban. Can we trade you and the truck for gimmick and salty aus? They’d be registered. You’re like a highly political college kid who doesn’t vote. You’re over 60.

    It’s not personal. How can I not ignore the guy who is all about politics yet won’t be voting in first election Texas is even somewhat relevant?

    You are number one on Trump is the devil poster list, yet you can’t vote? Unacceptable. I ignore you. You’re old enough to know better.


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    Odd that you need to announce your decision as if it will affect anyone in anyway.
    I’m just ribbing him. I just shook my head when he said he wasn’t voting

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    Per CBS News, hardly a right wing organization says if Trump mobilizes his supporters to the polls, he wins.

    https://twitter.com/Timcast/status/1322931635197796353

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by BCR View Post
    First time in 15 years I’ve ignored anyone mumbles. It took me a few minutes to figure out how to.

    The length of my ignoring you is either a few days or until after 2024.

    Your crime.

    Posting 1000 obscure left wing YouTubes. Talking politics every day for 4 years in every thread.

    Yet I “dragged my feet too long to get absentee ballot and won’t make it home in time to vote” = ceremonial ban. Can we trade you and the truck for gimmick and salty aus? They’d be registered. You’re like a highly political college kid who doesn’t vote. You’re over 60.

    It’s not personal. How can I not ignore the guy who is all about politics yet won’t be voting in first election Texas is even somewhat relevant?

    You are number one on Trump is the devil poster list, yet you can’t vote? Unacceptable. I ignore you. You’re old enough to know better.


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    ive had him on ignore for a while and its like a whole new forum without his content.

    every thread he touches dies, he's literally the donald trump of leftist posters.
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    "Birds born in a cage think flying is an illness." - Alejandro Jodorowsky

    "America is not so much a nightmare as a non-dream. The American non-dream is precisely a move to wipe the dream out of existence. The dream is a spontaneous happening and therefore dangerous to a control system set up by the non-dreamers." -- William S. Burroughs

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
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    From the same March 8, 60 minutes interview where Fauci discouraged people from wearing masks:

    "But there is another risk to healthy people buying disposable masks as a precaution. The price of face masks is surging, and Prestige Ameritech, the nation's largest surgical mask manufacturer, is now struggling to keep up with the increased demand.

    It could lead to a shortage of masks for the people who really need it
    ,"



    Am I totally missing something and Fauci actually did lie in another interview and later admit he was lying for the good of healthcare workers? Or are you spreading misinformation about a health expert during a pandemic because he criticized Trump.

    He said this:

    "There’s no reason to be walking around with a mask. When you’re in the middle of an outbreak, wearing a mask might make people feel a little bit better and it might even block a droplet, but it’s not providing the perfect protection that people think that it is. And, often, there are unintended consequences — people keep fiddling with the mask and they keep touching their face."


    Seems pretty clear to me.
    You said that when Faucci changed his stance on masks, he also admitted he was lying to help the healthcare workers. Obvious politically motivated misinformation - at the cost of people losing faith in health experts during a pandemic.



    Fauci also said we shouldn't wear masks because they're useless, then about-faced on it, and admitted he was lying for the good of healthcare workers. Yikes indeed.
    -Druff



    Would you care to revise your statement?

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